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MADem

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170. Nonsense. You're seriously trying to tell me that we, here, at DU need to REDACT

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:53 PM

Aug 2015

names of criminals that are published in the newspaper?

What criminal 'actively seeks publicity' - hmmmm?

Seriously--under your twisted logic, we'd have to post articles about

NAME REDACTED Shoots 12 People in Movie Theater
or NAME REDACTED Kills Nine Parishioners in Church

That has NEVER happened here. Newspaper articles are fair game.

Just because a newspaper article is CARRIED on the internet, that is a different thing altogether from a facebook post, a blog post, or a reddit post. Newspapers are print media, even if they migrate to the electronic sphere.

Doxxing is not the same as linking to a newspaper article. Private information would be the guy's facebook page, his PHONE number, his address, where he walks his dog, where his kids go to school, what grocery store he shops at, the make/model/license plate of his car--not a published newspaper report about a crime he committed, and for which he was publicly arrested by the (not private) police.

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DUer has nowhere to turn for help (SEX OFFENDER) [View all] Omaha Steve Jul 2015 OP

If you could please give the name of the bills he has, who to pay directly, perhaps I or Sunlei Jul 2015 #1

Good idea, but we'd have to coordinate, or his lights would go out while 5 of us pay the merrily Jul 2015 #5

you're right we have to coordinate. but even if he got 5 months of phone paid, the utility's Sunlei Jul 2015 #10

True, but you don't want the phone bill paid 5 months ahead while the lights go off next week. merrily Jul 2015 #12

you're right. Sunlei Jul 2015 #14

Enjoy the day. merrily Jul 2015 #15

That is an excellent idea. Friends here on DU have helped me in the past. One of the things I did jwirr Aug 2015 #106

Last I knew, there was a federal program. based on quarters worked and disability and merrily Jul 2015 #2

the temporary state program pays a literal pittance dsc Jul 2015 #53

Awful. merrily Jul 2015 #62

YES it is Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #68

That would be the $270 a month mentioned in the post may get food stamps but that would be it Person 2713 Jul 2015 #76

Thanks. Either that was not in the OP until after I posted the question about applying, or I merrily Jul 2015 #77

Many people will say to folks can't you get on state aid or welfare? It is so small or nonexistent Person 2713 Jul 2015 #78

Yes. It's been very different since Clinton, although a poster said Clinton did not merrily Jul 2015 #79

SSDI goes through the Social Security Administration and that also takes a lot of time but you are jwirr Aug 2015 #107

K&R LiberalElite Jul 2015 #3

or how about the name and address of his close grocery store and someone can send him a Sunlei Jul 2015 #4

Also, has he contacted his Representative and Senators to see if anyone can put a stick of dynamite merrily Jul 2015 #6

He has to get a lawyer Demeter Jul 2015 #7

he has a lawyer... magical thyme Jul 2015 #11

The OP mentions "His attorney" a couple of times. bananas Jul 2015 #13

I've seen other posts citing two years. That's why the state program is there as well merrily Jul 2015 #17

State programs are in place for only 12 months. mackerel Jul 2015 #56

Wow. Awful. merrily Jul 2015 #59

In my State, you have to be turned down twice before a lawyer will even touch your case! N/T Ghost in the Machine Jul 2015 #58

Not always it depends on many factors. mackerel Jul 2015 #72

Yes, step 3 means that you have already been twice, & NO LAWYER will get involved until then.. Ghost in the Machine Jul 2015 #74

Here's a great chart that I really like. Quackers Aug 2015 #127

Thanks for the chart! It really explains it better and I don't like arguing with someone who doesn't Ghost in the Machine Aug 2015 #147

I used to work for an attorney who did SheilaT Aug 2015 #173

My Wife's Took 19 Months ProfessorGAC Aug 2015 #162

K&R Katashi_itto Jul 2015 #8

k and r redwitch Jul 2015 #9

Thoughts on this Carfuffle Jul 2015 #16

I have no idea what bank he uses marym625 Jul 2015 #25

Hi! I just saw this. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #81

kick.. .if you want to send something, annabanana Jul 2015 #18

...and the sociopths in our gov want to see SSDI go down the drain by 2016. L0oniX Jul 2015 #19

+1 REMOVE THE CAP!!! 7962 Jul 2015 #20

Anyone got a name and street address? DFW Jul 2015 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author SheilaT Jul 2015 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author marym625 Jul 2015 #23

k & r for visibility SheilaT Jul 2015 #24

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #26

Kick for finally coming clean! zappaman Jul 2015 #27

shame on you grasswire Jul 2015 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Aug 2015 #88

If true, people who are politically active should know this, as it could be used against a campaign. TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #101

Why was that post hidden? 840high Jul 2015 #55

Beats me. zappaman Jul 2015 #61

Now I know. Thanks. 840high Jul 2015 #65

Wouldn't that apply to the OP then? Go Vols Aug 2015 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Aug 2015 #89

Full Disclosure is needed. This is a political website, many here are active in campaigns. TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #102

Did the OP give a surname and town? Say anything about a crime? merrily Aug 2015 #97

Not that I saw Go Vols Aug 2015 #99

Omaha Steve had permission from CCD to post what he posted. merrily Aug 2015 #109

The OP opened the door to the informational post. If you give permission prayin4rain Aug 2015 #111

False. The post got hidden because it violates TOS. Posting to ask for money for a DUer merrily Aug 2015 #113

Point is, in light of the circumstances (asking for money) prayin4rain Aug 2015 #114

Take that up with the owner of the board. He wrote the TOS. The OP did not. merrily Aug 2015 #115

I'm not complaining about the TOS. I'm complaining prayin4rain Aug 2015 #116

I don't think the TOS has a problem with shit in the newspaper--that's not "private." MADem Aug 2015 #153

Yep, good point. n/t prayin4rain Aug 2015 #154

Seems the person that had the post hidden doesn't agree with you Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #157

It's not against the TOS to link to a published newspaper. If it were, then we couldn't post MADem Aug 2015 #159

The person that got locked dofus you were talking about doesn't agree with you Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #160

No, but another one down thread did davidpdx Aug 2015 #121

Another post by the OP? or a post by another poster? merrily Aug 2015 #122

Another poster davidpdx Aug 2015 #123

Post #120 davidpdx Aug 2015 #124

Thanks. There are quite a few like that on this thread, some hidden, some not. merrily Aug 2015 #125

Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #126

I was #7 davidpdx Aug 2015 #129

My bad Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #130

I too would like to know why a host didn't ask this in private? Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #138

I think once a person's name is published in the paper, they've lost the right to privacy. MADem Aug 2015 #152

The term "public figure" has a legal definition and your use of it is nowhere near the definition. merrily Aug 2015 #169

Nonsense. You're seriously trying to tell me that we, here, at DU need to REDACT MADem Aug 2015 #170

No Omaha Steve's post wasn't hidden at all CreekDog Aug 2015 #96

The terms of service say what they say. merrily Aug 2015 #98

To me, this is a gray area. If a DUer commits a crime and is convicted, that is public information. madinmaryland Aug 2015 #167

Who is asking someone on DU to ask for donations for other issues? merrily Aug 2015 #168

Dofus Quackers Aug 2015 #128

Your patting troll like actions on the back is my point Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #133

Steve, insinuate what you want Quackers Aug 2015 #145

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Aug 2015 #146

Hide the fact??? Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #148

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Aug 2015 #155

You mean the term pedo appearing in this post 13 times was easy to miss??? Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #156

Well does this meet your approval? Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #161

Yes. yardwork Aug 2015 #164

ABSOLUTELY. People who are "public figures" --elected, appointed, or in a position of trust-teachers MADem Aug 2015 #171

Technically, I don't think the person in question is a pedophile. ladyVet Aug 2015 #175

Eeeewwww. He is a sex offender that is listed in Illinos as the definition of a criminal Person 2713 Aug 2015 #176

This is what I found most disturbing. Quackers Aug 2015 #179

Steve, for what it's worth, I appreciate your efforts to help others. MH1 Aug 2015 #166

My reply. ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #28

I can't pretend to understand marym625 Jul 2015 #30

Thank you, maym625! ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #31

. marym625 Jul 2015 #46

.. ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #49

I will be sending a small contribution (best I can do) to you at the end of the week. grasswire Jul 2015 #32

Thank you, grasswire! ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #34

You are absolutely right... martalcd Jul 2015 #36

hey, it's Marta! grasswire Jul 2015 #38

+1 marym625 Jul 2015 #47

"All of that is their justification for thinking of themselves before others." Hissyspit Jul 2015 #64

YES it is Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #80

+1 marym625 Jul 2015 #48

Could you expand, CCD, on what you mean by this? RiverLover Jul 2015 #39

Certainly. ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #43

Awwww, they are absolutely adorable! Thanks so much for posting, and for your thoughtful response. RiverLover Jul 2015 #44

Thank you! ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #45

You have just succinctly explained what's wrong with sex-offender laws KamaAina Aug 2015 #165

This message was self-deleted by its author kcr Jul 2015 #29

SSDI is a scandal and SSI is even more of one daredtowork Jul 2015 #33

It's not always that bad REP Jul 2015 #37

I believe it gradually became worse in 2008 daredtowork Jul 2015 #40

My first approval was in 2004 REP Jul 2015 #41

Perhaps congrats is the wrong word daredtowork Jul 2015 #42

To blame Clinton for the amount of cash aid is flat out dishonest dsc Jul 2015 #54

It sounds like your parents got TANF daredtowork Jul 2015 #57

you miss my point dsc Jul 2015 #67

The specific amounts are set by County daredtowork Jul 2015 #69

Actually, pre-Clinton it would have been AFDC. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #85

At one time, it was called home relief, I think. HR were the initials anyway. merrily Aug 2015 #108

Yes, there were lots of local variants for general assistance Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #119

Limiting time frames for those who are permanently disabled and waiting for SSDI merrily Jul 2015 #60

I agree the limit is bad dsc Jul 2015 #66

The amount did fall daredtowork Aug 2015 #87

Everyone deserves a chance Adrahil Jul 2015 #50

I have, and thanks! ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #52

I am curious about this statement because it seems oddly impersonal as though you have no control Tipperary Aug 2015 #131

I am no expert on this dsc Aug 2015 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Aug 2015 #90

k roody Jul 2015 #51

I want to thank everyone who has contributed. ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #70

. Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #71

k&r... spanone Jul 2015 #73

Thanks Omaha Steve Jul 2015 #75

Thank you! n/t ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #82

kick! n/t Moosepoop Aug 2015 #83

Thank you, Moosepoop! I'm still much below goal, and appreciate the visibility. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #86

There are a lot of suffering people in the world, and most of them aren't convicted pedos. LeftyMom Aug 2015 #91

I too, thought staying off the internet was a restriction in all these cases. Tipperary Aug 2015 #92

Thank you. nt LexVegas Aug 2015 #93

That's true, does that mean someone trying to get a fresh start doesn't deserve a chance? Adrahil Aug 2015 #95

Agreed. I've barely been back since seeing this. prayin4rain Aug 2015 #103

In my opinion CCD literally attempted to blackmail DU with that post. Codeine Aug 2015 #104

Yep, maintaing a thread to financially support a grown capable prayin4rain Aug 2015 #105

OS did not have that info until dofus merrily Aug 2015 #112

Now he knows. Did he delete? prayin4rain Aug 2015 #117

/ignore. merrily Aug 2015 #118

I understood that OS did know because of the way the op is worded. He clearly speaks of not judging Tipperary Aug 2015 #132

My apology Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #134

I am a fairly new poster here although a long time lurker. I think it is probably against the rules Tipperary Aug 2015 #135

I'll edit Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #136

I accept your apology. I did not know to look for an edit indication. Tipperary Aug 2015 #137

You misunderstood. merrily Aug 2015 #140

Omaha Steve spoke to me through pm and he apologized to me for any misunderstanding. I think that Tipperary Aug 2015 #142

Apology more than accepted. merrily Aug 2015 #143

I thank you for your response. As I mentioned, I am new here, however I have lurked enough to know Tipperary Aug 2015 #144

+1000 Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #110

And yet DU loses it's collective mind over a woman and her dog needing help. JTFrog Aug 2015 #141

TTW raised $ long before she had a gofundme page total of $2,426 Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #149

That doesn't negate my post. JTFrog Aug 2015 #150

I like to call people who disagree with my opinion a 'swarm' too. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #163

What the fuck? JTFrog Aug 2015 #172

+1 sagat Aug 2015 #174

This thread is extremely extremely disturbing. nt LexVegas Aug 2015 #94

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Could someone post the GoFundMe where we donate for Bill Cosby? Orrex Aug 2015 #139

Don't give them any ideas. n/t JTFrog Aug 2015 #151

Drugs, burglary, shit all kinds of crime but this I can not rec Person 2713 Aug 2015 #177

"Do you know why they have a registary for this particular crime in Illinois ?" NuclearDem Aug 2015 #178

I think they are a great idea DrDan Aug 2015 #180

Your granddaughter is more likely to be killed by a drunk driver NuclearDem Aug 2015 #181

not the same . . . but you know that DrDan Aug 2015 #183

I don't know where you live, but here in Indiana NuclearDem Aug 2015 #185

perhaps in your world it is - but in the interest of my granddaughter's safety, it isn't DrDan Aug 2015 #188

It is a crime with high repeat offenses harming minors who can not defend themselves Person 2713 Aug 2015 #184

If someone was convicted of a series of premeditated rapes NuclearDem Aug 2015 #187

I was able to find out Illinois state police have him 3 times 1/13 2/13 & 9/14 Person 2713 Aug 2015 #182

I have no problem with you expressing your opinion Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #186