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David__77

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69. Specifically, this...

Tue Aug 11, 2015, 09:56 AM

Aug 2015

"I got my SNOOTFULL of the white supremacists supporters."

I don't know if this is identifying Bernie Sanders as a white supremacist, or saying that Bernie Sanders has white supremacist supporters. The absence of an apostrophe makes it hard for me to tell. Either way, it struck me as a generalization. I'll agree that there are plenty of white liberals out there that have little reality on day-to-day experience of being Black. And I think lots of white people can be quite defensive when confronted with anything resembling an accusation of being anything other than perfectly enlightened. That said, is DU the place for such confrontation, when generalized to either a Democratic presidential candidate, or to that some generalized segment of that candidate's supporters?

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Apology to Bravenak [View all] shaayecanaan Aug 2015 OP

Bravenak is a great DUer malaise Aug 2015 #1

She's a smart, strong and passionate woman. I adore her. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #2

She was alert stalked.Along with other AA posters here. sufrommich Aug 2015 #3

Agreed on the stalking. blackspade Aug 2015 #6

Yes she was and so are a few others....really bullyish behavior nc4bo Aug 2015 #7

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #14

i hope the admins take a close look at that shit. mopinko Aug 2015 #49

I hate to point this out nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #203

I agree with you, Nadin. Raksha Aug 2015 #280

I agree. Part of why I've made myself unavailable for juries. closeupready Aug 2015 #58

Please reconsider missingthebigdog Aug 2015 #105

Ok, I will do that. closeupready Aug 2015 #152

That's not cool. zappaman Aug 2015 #125

I will think again about it. closeupready Aug 2015 #153

And I do not do juries, or alerts nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #205

Agreed Sheepshank Aug 2015 #109

Quit whining. EVERYBODY gets fucked by the jury system. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #162

When people I like go on time out the system is broken Capt. Obvious Aug 2015 #165

Pretty much. Marr Aug 2015 #184

Exactly. It's hilarious to watch. /nt pintobean Aug 2015 #237

It really is Capt. Obvious Aug 2015 #243

Bingo. nt MH1 Aug 2015 #240

Yes. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #183

She is awesome. blackspade Aug 2015 #4

She sounds wonderful. I don't really know her... other than the name. Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #5

7 hidden posts in 2 weeks magical thyme Aug 2015 #11

No offense, but she's brought more to DU than you ever have. Codeine Aug 2015 #12

relevent to my post how? (rhetorical question; I'm truly not interested in your answer) magical thyme Aug 2015 #13

That post was not a threat. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #19

not everybody is familiar with Game of Thrones. I read it as a threat, as I magical thyme Aug 2015 #25

This seems like implied name-calling to me... Lilith Rising Aug 2015 #78

not even close magical thyme Aug 2015 #102

About to find yourself in hot water Lilith Rising Aug 2015 #147

being passionate or angry or upset about something to the point where you are on the brink magical thyme Aug 2015 #151

Everybody is familiar with the Google though Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #80

A game of thrones reference at the end of the statement yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #148

I consider it my job as a juror to understand the post well enough to assess whether it violates CS Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #149

I need to be a better juror then yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #155

What a fucking piss poor excuse!* BuelahWitch Aug 2015 #207

Her entire post referenced GoT. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #211

you imply that the sum total of her DU writings come down to the hides? Sheepshank Aug 2015 #113

You imply there was something wrong with those 7 posts. magical thyme Aug 2015 #124

The poster said they wanted to get to know her better Sheepshank Aug 2015 #163

In your fevered imagination, perhaps. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #168

tuck it away.... Sheepshank Aug 2015 #186

So why doesn't somebody answer that question, because I don't have a good or even fair magical thyme Aug 2015 #188

I can't speak for ALL members of the "Bernie Brigade," Blue_In_AK Aug 2015 #242

Yup, did the same thing for someone in the Bernie group Sheepshank Aug 2015 #276

Geez, "no offense?" cwydro Aug 2015 #30

thank you.. what you say is so true.. the first part anyway. I don't know you but Cha Aug 2015 #51

Yep, more than me, too. This is total BS. n/t prayin4rain Aug 2015 #60

+ infinity. n/t JTFrog Aug 2015 #76

Nailed it. zappaman Aug 2015 #132

Brought more to du than I ever have. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #176

Lol, wow , what a classy thing to say! nt Logical Aug 2015 #190

Doesn't giver her the right to attack and insult people AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #279

4 of them within 15 minutes of each other. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #17

again, the questioner and anybody else, can read them on her transparency page magical thyme Aug 2015 #21

She spoke truth. It made some white people uncomfortable. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #23

she spoke *her* truth. magical thyme Aug 2015 #28

There is only one truth. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #29

I'd think you'd encourage people to read the transparency page magical thyme Aug 2015 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Aug 2015 #79

I definitely recommend that. And I would tell people to keep in mind that AA folks through BLM stevenleser Aug 2015 #82

Same happened to me, cept I wasn't asked to leave, just banned. notadmblnd Aug 2015 #107

+1,000 malaise Aug 2015 #42

You get banned from AA for opposing the clique groupthink. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #83

Yeah, Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #86

Try sticking to the truth sometime. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #89

You realize "the cause" supports Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #97

The fact that you make accusations without knowing the facts... BillZBubb Aug 2015 #108

Facts: Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #111

Apparently you and facts are strangers. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #117

Link to you being asked to leave. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #122

At this point, it's quadrupling down on dishonesty. zappaman Aug 2015 #135

He's already on another thread... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #139

+1 sheshe2 Aug 2015 #189

Careful. There is only one truth, and Dr. Hobbitstein knows it. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #169

Cool little bumper-sticker you wrote-- though unsupported by link provided LanternWaste Aug 2015 #202

At least Dr. H. had the links to the actual posts in question for all to see. KittyWampus Aug 2015 #214

We've banned more people in the last TWO DAYS than in the previous FOUR FUCKING YEARS Number23 Aug 2015 #259

And these are the same people Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #272

Those silly people of color get so upset that their fellow POC are being murdered. They should calm stevenleser Aug 2015 #90

What a foolish comment. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #93

No, what is foolish is that it needs to be said. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #94

No what is foolish is the pathetic generalization. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #95

Which part? That their rhetoric upset folks? Because it clearly did. Or that POC are being murdered? stevenleser Aug 2015 #98

When someone has to hire an ambassador for race relations thats foolish William769 Aug 2015 #115

I'm not sure what you are referring to. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #118

Typical! TM99 Aug 2015 #130

Timing is just so perfect for this. William769 Aug 2015 #131

It was already in the works. TM99 Aug 2015 #140

You keep telling yourself that. William769 Aug 2015 #141

Wtf? zappaman Aug 2015 #142

I modified my selfie-stick. George II Aug 2015 #146

Yup all a game to you TM99 Aug 2015 #143

All the way to the White House! William769 Aug 2015 #145

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service jeff47 Aug 2015 #157

I am not surprised TM99 Aug 2015 #159

How can one be physically violent... bvar22 Aug 2015 #246

Well, if Windows 10 will help you with TM99 Aug 2015 #247

MARISSA BEAT BERNIE UP ???? WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL US ??? kwassa Aug 2015 #250

She shoved him. TM99 Aug 2015 #251

Okaaaaay. A terrible assault has taken place. Hmmmmm. kwassa Aug 2015 #252

So, if a young woman or young man TM99 Aug 2015 #254

Sounds like Bernie isn't strong enough to be President .... kwassa Aug 2015 #255

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #258

Cops killed 350 black people in the past year. They also killed 850 non-black people. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #173

Walking into someone else's house and spitting on the rug is bad manners. Take it to GD and GD-P Hekate Aug 2015 #171

Creative, though unsupported allegation... again. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #200

She did have some bullshit hides, based on her opinion rather than how she expressed it. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #225

Let's boil those 7 hides down to this - FOUR hides in about a half hour! George II Aug 2015 #41

in which case I'd expect you to encourage people to read the hidden posts magical thyme Aug 2015 #44

Yes indeed, you can she how see was STALKED. In close proximity. Because she had the NERVE KittyWampus Aug 2015 #52

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #61

That's what the alert police thought because they couldn't handle what she had to say. Cha Aug 2015 #73

Who left the door open again? n/t JTFrog Aug 2015 #85

I wish they'd leave the names up. I'm always curious to know who the troll was. Hekate Aug 2015 #244

One alert was terrible and the alerter was more abusive than the post Bravenak posted. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #63

I think the posts in question and the timeline make it clear she was alert-stalked. Chan790 Aug 2015 #65

your one hide may have more to do with visibility than content magical thyme Aug 2015 #138

I read most of her posts when she made them and the rest just now. tblue37 Aug 2015 #106

All but one of them 4-3 hides. KamaAina Aug 2015 #208

Her voice is missed tammywammy Aug 2015 #8

We need to listen and learn from our AA members, not alert stalk them octoberlib Aug 2015 #9

I don't always agree with her Codeine Aug 2015 #10

+1 Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #45

And now she's dead Shankapotomus Aug 2015 #15

It looks like westboro baptist church showed up to protest her funeral... George II Aug 2015 #84

I was gonna use that WBC line in an earlier post. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #88

I actually don't even know Bravneks Shankapotomus Aug 2015 #91

"GOD HATES BRAVENAKS!" "Seven hides all sinful!! Shame shame shame!!" Cha Aug 2015 #241

She made some people uncomfortable brer cat Aug 2015 #16

Agreed - Bravenak makes DU a better place, and I wish her speedy return GeoWilliam750 Aug 2015 #18

+10000 sheshe2 Aug 2015 #193

Bravenak is awesome! n/t prayin4rain Aug 2015 #20

Bravenak is a great member of DU and I am sorry that she is in time out Gothmog Aug 2015 #22

This is what DU has become. onehandle Aug 2015 #24

Don't kid yourself, this is what DU always was. In 2008 it was LGBT people being used as political Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #274

The treatment of bravenek and others since Saturday has been a remarkable spectacle alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #26

Its so sad, Peacetrain Aug 2015 #27

She pulls no punches, and some people seem not to like that Orrex Aug 2015 #31

I was on a jury for a person who was alerted daredtowork Aug 2015 #39

'just look at those white ass crowds' Kingofalldems Aug 2015 #32

That's called speaking truth to power daredtowork Aug 2015 #36

She was angry and frustrated. TBF Aug 2015 #38

So we give her special leeway to post hurtful, rude, or over the top material? BillZBubb Aug 2015 #128

As a white-ass person, I can't imagine getting offended by that phrase. Orrex Aug 2015 #43

thank you! Cha Aug 2015 #70

Many years ago I got into an argument with an employee Orrex Aug 2015 #103

Agree.. everything Black Americans have been through over the centuries... thanks to Cha Aug 2015 #114

This white-ass person agrees with you. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #133

I thought it was hilarious. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #46

Ugh, glad I missed that. nt msrizzo Aug 2015 #166

Holy Christ on a mother flipping cracker. Holy Shit Number23 Aug 2015 #260

It's why I give zero fucks about a lot of feelings about BLM. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #262

And I bet a jury left it alone with the old "Debate, don't censor!1" garbage Number23 Aug 2015 #264

That's a single sentence taken out of a longer post. George II Aug 2015 #48

What's objectionable about that? Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #50

Oh, boo-hoo....give me a break. n/t prayin4rain Aug 2015 #55

Such a well thought out response. Kingofalldems Aug 2015 #101

You're confused about what it means? n/t prayin4rain Aug 2015 #116

Looks like you are calling me a baby. Kingofalldems Aug 2015 #120

Hmph, well, I guess you're right, brevity was the wrong choice in this case. prayin4rain Aug 2015 #136

What are you talking about? Kingofalldems Aug 2015 #182

About the same time that it became ok to ask "what the fuck are you talking about?" Orrex Aug 2015 #187

Touche. Kingofalldems Aug 2015 #192

Haha, perfect. n/t prayin4rain Aug 2015 #201

Except the f word is an expletive, the other a racial slur. Kingofalldems Aug 2015 #215

White ass is a racial slur??? What? n/t prayin4rain Aug 2015 #218

Matter of opinion. In my opinion as well as a DU jury, yes. Kingofalldems Aug 2015 #220

That's a stretch. prayin4rain Aug 2015 #221

In fairness, I *did* make the baby comparison Orrex Aug 2015 #194

Can barely see the forest for all the prayin4rain Aug 2015 #206

Are they or are they not white-ass crowds? Codeine Aug 2015 #57

my white ass thinks it's high time for that fucking discussion. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #92

Exactly right. SunSeeker Aug 2015 #185

Precisely. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #197

Seriously? You take that personally? hunter Aug 2015 #99

No, I didn't take it personally. Kingofalldems Aug 2015 #100

Revealing of what, exactly? hunter Aug 2015 #110

The post you linked to really deserves to be hidden. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #236

If it were white kids getting gunned down senselessly left and right by scared black folks... nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #268

The apparent lack of diversity among Sanders supporters - while not inherently a negative - nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #267

This Bernie supporter has no problem with Bravenak TBF Aug 2015 #33

I also feel the same way, I had no problem with her or her posts. Agschmid Aug 2015 #216

Whew...I thought she had been tombstoned at first deutsey Aug 2015 #34

Personally I would not have hidden Mbrow Aug 2015 #37

she made people uncomfortable JI7 Aug 2015 #40

Thank you. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #47

"Do not post bigotry based on someone's race or ethnic origin" canoeist52 Aug 2015 #53

I hope you're also alerting all the vile posts Bernie Sanders supporters are writing KittyWampus Aug 2015 #59

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #66

Those who spewed vitriol are the losers. Cha Aug 2015 #75

Repeatedly labelling Sanders supporters racists is offensive. Marr Aug 2015 #68

And since no one is doing that� your post doesn't seem relevant. KittyWampus Aug 2015 #71

The juries didn't agree with you. /nt Marr Aug 2015 #77

Given what the jury system on DU has become, that's not saying much at all. n/t JTFrog Aug 2015 #112

Bravenak has absolutely labeled DUers as racist mythology Aug 2015 #121

Context is everything. Unless you are white and fragile. KittyWampus Aug 2015 #156

More race-baiting bullshit. And you know what else is bullshit? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #178

The white, fragile folks get time out for losing their shit while posting also, just Zorra Aug 2015 #212

That is a false claim. Orrex Aug 2015 #160

Where's the bigotry in that? Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #72

OFFS Kali Aug 2015 #74

Good to see someone who gets it. Kingofalldems Aug 2015 #96

She earned her time out. Marr Aug 2015 #54

LOL! KittyWampus Aug 2015 #62

Ah, you edited your post. Marr Aug 2015 #64

I don't know anything about all this really. David__77 Aug 2015 #56

Specifically, this... David__77 Aug 2015 #69

Yes. DU is the place for such confrontation. JTFrog Aug 2015 #119

I understand. David__77 Aug 2015 #161

She was alert trolled and she allowed herself to be drawn into angry, angry responses..... marble falls Aug 2015 #67

Alert trolled is bullshit conspiricy shit! How could you set thst up so.... Logical Aug 2015 #196

If you get alerted enough the laws of averages creep up on you. She allowed herself to be drawn... marble falls Aug 2015 #219

I read her transparency page, and her hides were no worse than mine have been. If you are.... Logical Aug 2015 #233

Some people who are trying to make an impassioned point sometimes make word choices that aikoaiko Aug 2015 #81

No apology is necessary. She is opinionated and passionate which is fine. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #87

That's mighty gracious of you to decline the apology on Bravenak's behalf. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2015 #164

The level of rage is something we can't understand unless we are experiencing what is happening in jalan48 Aug 2015 #104

According to some, she was "race nagging". zappaman Aug 2015 #123

^^this^^ n/t JTFrog Aug 2015 #127

Not some, one. William769 Aug 2015 #129

+1000 Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #154

AMEN!!! etherealtruth Aug 2015 #167

unfuckingbelievable that ugly stuff like that flies here. disappointing. bullshit hides. bettyellen Aug 2015 #174

Yep, it is plain as day for sure... Spazito Aug 2015 #181

The alert stalking in the AA group is reprehensible. SunSeeker Aug 2015 #195

Nailed it. Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #224

Are all or most of the people in the AA forum black folk? n/t Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #239

I want to wrap this post in a blanket, put it on my knee and give it a cookie Number23 Aug 2015 #261

DU will be worse off without Bravenak William769 Aug 2015 #126

I think the entire jury system is massively flawed--it's *designed* to punish minority opinion. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #134

Do you have a better plan? BillZBubb Aug 2015 #170

DU2 was much better than this. In all respects. Romulox Aug 2015 #175

The old moderation system was better. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #231

I disagree. I had very bad experience with that system. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #234

DU was a better place for Beavenak. okasha Aug 2015 #137

bravenak speaks truths that some don't want to hear. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #144

I was not a fan. You have to be able to listen to more points of view than your own. Vinca Aug 2015 #150

Unless your point of view is a deliberately ignored Codeine Aug 2015 #199

The key word in your post is "unpleasant." Vinca Aug 2015 #223

Unpleasant times call for unpleasant measures. That's how it is. nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #269

Civility seems to be a lost art. Vinca Aug 2015 #271

Civility is a good general principle, but it shouldn't (and can't) be an ironclad law. nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #278

Dam 7 hides!? Rex Aug 2015 #158

One of the best du has to offer. nt. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #172

She's a great DUer Aerows Aug 2015 #177

Her voice is missed. The alert-stalkers should be ashamed, but they don't know how. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #179

I like Bravenak. H2O Man Aug 2015 #180

Bravenak is a DU treasure. She has taught me so much. myrna minx Aug 2015 #191

K & R SunSeeker Aug 2015 #198

NOOOOOOO!!!!!! KamaAina Aug 2015 #204

I found her to be offputting, obnoxious, argumentative... Shandris Aug 2015 #209

Bravenak is a great person and poster. Her posts were willfully misinterpreted emulatorloo Aug 2015 #210

I love Bravenak. lovemydog Aug 2015 #213

I did send her a PM Warpy Aug 2015 #217

Maybe DU needs a Back Alley group goldent Aug 2015 #222

I read her hidden posts Flying Squirrel Aug 2015 #226

I think she was kinda joking on that one. Turin_C3PO Aug 2015 #227

Ok... Flying Squirrel Aug 2015 #228

I strongly disagree with the banning of NYC_SKP. Turin_C3PO Aug 2015 #229

Game of Thrones. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #232

I think DU needs bravenak, and I hope to see her back soon. eom lunamagica Aug 2015 #230

kick... Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #235

She was just too over the top romanic Aug 2015 #238

I think you are too over the top. kwassa Aug 2015 #257

And that one just came back from a timeout of his own. Number23 Aug 2015 #263

I will miss her on here! m-lekktor Aug 2015 #245

Hey Bravenak... You're Ok With Me... Passion And Truth-Telling... WillyT Aug 2015 #248

K&R ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #249

BRAVENAK IS THE BEST!!! kwassa Aug 2015 #253

Agree... does yuiyoshida Aug 2015 #256

+1 nt steve2470 Aug 2015 #265

don't always agree with Bravenak, but I am glad we are on the same side Marrah_G Aug 2015 #266

What an odious fucking bunch of alert-stalking crybabies... nomorenomore08 Aug 2015 #270

I love Bravenak. I relate. She is a person who strives to be an honest broker while also containing Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #273

Spacedog to the rescue Cosmic Kitten Aug 2015 #275

The same person shouldn't be able to alert on another poster more than once a week. Kurska Aug 2015 #277