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Showing Original Post only (View all)The Glass-Steagall Partial-Repeal Did Not Cause the Financial Crisis [View all]
Its always tempting to try to find something easy to blame. It gratifies the human need for quick answers and provides closure. It also makes a person a target.
This is unfortunate because sometimes it ignores complexities, other times its a vehicle for simple hatred, or other times, it is both. A good example of this is about the repeal of Glass-Steagall, which occurred in a veto-proof bill that no President was going to bother to veto and waste political capital on before an election year, especially after one of the most wasteful opposition-executed witch hunts in American history.
I think the truth has been told about this:
Facts such as that Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch three institutions at the heart of the crisis were pure investment banks that had never crossed the old line into commercial banking. The same goes for Goldman Sachs, another favorite villain of the left.
The infamous AIG? An insurance firm. New Century Financial? A real estate investment trust. No Glass-Steagall there.
Two of the biggest banks that went under, Wachovia and Washington Mutual, got into trouble the old-fashioned way largely by making risky loans to homeowners. Bank of America nearly met the same fate, not because it had bought an investment bank but because it had bought Countrywide Financial, a vanilla-variety mortgage lender.
Meanwhile, J.P. Morgan and Wells Fargo two large banks with big investment banking arms resisted taking government capital and arguably could have weathered the crisis without it.
The infamous AIG? An insurance firm. New Century Financial? A real estate investment trust. No Glass-Steagall there.
Two of the biggest banks that went under, Wachovia and Washington Mutual, got into trouble the old-fashioned way largely by making risky loans to homeowners. Bank of America nearly met the same fate, not because it had bought an investment bank but because it had bought Countrywide Financial, a vanilla-variety mortgage lender.
Meanwhile, J.P. Morgan and Wells Fargo two large banks with big investment banking arms resisted taking government capital and arguably could have weathered the crisis without it.
This guy is no conservative Republican here. Same with Andrew Ross Sorkin, of "Too Big To Fail" fame:
Citis troubles didnt come until after Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, A.I.G., Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were fallen or teetering when all hell was breaking loose.
Why do we have financial crises? Why do banks lose money?
If history is any guide, it hasnt often been the result of speculative bets. It has been the result of banks making loans to individuals and businesses who cant pay them back.
Yes, standards became so lax that buyers didnt have to put money down or prove their income, and financial firms developed dangerous instruments that packaged and sliced up loans, then magnified their bets with more borrowed money.
But it often starts with banks making basic loans. Making loans is one of the riskiest businesses banks engage in and has been a major contributing factor to most financial crises in the world over the last 50 years, Richard Spillenkothen, former director of the division of banking supervision and regulation at the Federal Reserve, wrote in a letter to Politicos Morning Money on Monday. He said that if Glass-Steagall still existed, it alone would not have prevented the financial crisis.
[The] repeal of Glass-Steagall has not been the key driver of this consolidation, which began long before 1999.
Why do we have financial crises? Why do banks lose money?
If history is any guide, it hasnt often been the result of speculative bets. It has been the result of banks making loans to individuals and businesses who cant pay them back.
Yes, standards became so lax that buyers didnt have to put money down or prove their income, and financial firms developed dangerous instruments that packaged and sliced up loans, then magnified their bets with more borrowed money.
But it often starts with banks making basic loans. Making loans is one of the riskiest businesses banks engage in and has been a major contributing factor to most financial crises in the world over the last 50 years, Richard Spillenkothen, former director of the division of banking supervision and regulation at the Federal Reserve, wrote in a letter to Politicos Morning Money on Monday. He said that if Glass-Steagall still existed, it alone would not have prevented the financial crisis.
[The] repeal of Glass-Steagall has not been the key driver of this consolidation, which began long before 1999.
Clearly, people who actually know about business, know the truth. I admire Elizabeth Warren's fanship of the American middle class and worker. But that does not excuse her, or Bernie Sanders, for peddling an easy to swallow myth. While Warren would be a valuable asset political to the Clintons for 2016, she still is simply wrong on this one.
Its sad how many of you on the fringe left like to bash the Clintons. Ever see the right guys attacking Reagan? The Clintons brought our party back from the kind of popular vote record Republicans have had since the Clintons: one for six, us like that from 1968-1988, the GOP 1992-now. Sure, not all of Clinton's policies were perfect, but they sure as hell were much better than Bush Sr., his Prez-in-waiting Dan Quayle, George W. Bush, and Jeb W. Bush (or Donald Trump).
To those who say "why trust business/financial experts" on these matters, why then trust scientists instead of politicians on global warming?
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ericson00
Aug 2015
OP
Glass-Stegall was established for a good reason....even if you don't see it that way
Stargazer99
Aug 2015
#4
it was not fully repealed, and just because it was "established for good reason"
ericson00
Aug 2015
#8
Sorry. Glass Steagall and the Commodities Futures Modernization Act were huge factors.
merrily
Aug 2015
#7
Trust financial experts on the economy? Even Greenspan finally said that's a huge mistake
merrily
Aug 2015
#22
After 2008, that POS suddenly realized that financial markets are not all knowing
merrily
Aug 2015
#60
Wasn't it those trustworthy bankers who offered those risky loans to people who could not afford
jwirr
Aug 2015
#26
He quotes Elizabeth Warren in that article that keeping Glass-Steagall would not have prevented 2008
Recursion
Aug 2015
#41
It was when combined with derivatives, CDOs and insurance and bank loans of commercial banks.
mmonk
Aug 2015
#12
A lot of us stupidly defended that liar in the 90's just because the republicans hated him so much
tularetom
Aug 2015
#14
I know she's in favor of re-instating it; I was pointing out that she doesn't think it would have
Recursion
Aug 2015
#57
Never said it caused the crash. It did allow many of us to lose OUR money in risky investments.
jwirr
Aug 2015
#23
I suppose that was true of the banks that were purely investment banks but I don't think that was
jwirr
Aug 2015
#70
Oh, I see what you're saying: I agree, the commercial banks screwed the IBs over
Recursion
Aug 2015
#45
You are absolutely correct, however I personally do not think it should have been repealed
still_one
Aug 2015
#53
The root cause of the crisis is the absence of a global surplus recycling mechanism.
Betty Karlson
Aug 2015
#68
Seems your bumper-sticker wisdom is receiving the relevant amount of disdain it earned.
LanternWaste
Aug 2015
#78