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7. Your Rights Trump Black Lives. (nt)

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Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:56 AM

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In Ferguson - Guess Who Gets Arrested? [View all] kpete Aug 2015 OP

Thank you, RKBAers. And, thank you, NRA. (nt) stone space Aug 2015 #1

How is it the fault of the RKBA that an unarmed child was arrested? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #3

It is the fault of RKBAers and the NRA that the armed terrorists are allowed to terrorize... stone space Aug 2015 #4

The only ones terrorizing the black community are the police. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #6

Your Rights Trump Black Lives. (nt) stone space Aug 2015 #7

Now you're just bleating. The RKBA is a universal right. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #8

Your Rights Trump Black Lives stone space Aug 2015 #9

The RKBA protects. Racist gun laws enforced by racists are killing blacks. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #10

#BLACKLIVESMATTER (nt) stone space Aug 2015 #11

Then you should stop supporting racist gun laws enforced by racists. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #12

Your rights trump black lives. (nt) Paladin Aug 2015 #37

My RKBA cannot trump anyone because the RKBA is universal. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #40

"My right trumps your dead." Aaron Weiss, 2013 Paladin Aug 2015 #52

"Your side fucking owns that ugly quote" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #67

You lose. (nt) Paladin Aug 2015 #104

No, you! (nt) Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #105

Not a "universal" right, RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #29

That' like saying the presence of slavery negates the universal right to freedom. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #33

No but when a majority of countries RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #45

Argumentum ad populum Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #47

There is no sense trying to convey logic RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #68

"There is no sense trying to convey logic" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #72

Like I said RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #76

Why do you bring that shit to this thread? stone space Aug 2015 #146

Not seeing anyone who looks intimidated. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #147

Why are you supporting these assholes? stone space Aug 2015 #149

"Shouldn't they be arrested and have their guns confiscated?" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #151

In theory. Not in reality. We live in reality, try dealing with that. -eom gcomeau Aug 2015 #51

So because 1 group is deprived of a right that justifies universal deprivation? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #59

No... gcomeau Aug 2015 #99

"I happen the think the 2nd is absolutely obsolete" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #100

They can disagree all they want. gcomeau Aug 2015 #103

"Presenting an argument backing their disagreement would be a nice touch though." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #109

Ahem... gcomeau Aug 2015 #110

"Bull shit I am, unless you can present an argument that self defense is only possible using a gun?" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #111

Oh really? gcomeau Aug 2015 #112

"So you're saying that guns are more effective at killing" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #114

Sigh... gcomeau Aug 2015 #116

VPC is another "lies, damned lies and Controller propaganda" hack organization Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #130

Sigh again... gcomeau Aug 2015 #170

"don't report how many times they did so *unnecessarily*, terrorizing innocent people" Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #174

Yeah... gcomeau Aug 2015 #176

So you just disingenuously assume all firearms uses are bad. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #178

Please learn English if we are going to have a productive discussion. gcomeau Aug 2015 #182

I never claimed Japan had higher violent crime and I told you as much the first time you tried that. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #183

Sheesh... gcomeau Aug 2015 #187

"Nobody said you didn't. Just argued that for this one particular right you *shouldn't*." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #189

No? AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #113

No. gcomeau Aug 2015 #115

You seem to have missed the evolution in printing technology between AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #128

No, I really didn't. gcomeau Aug 2015 #169

Modern weapons aren't really more deadly. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #173

That almost sent me out of my chair laughing. gcomeau Aug 2015 #177

You are confused. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #179

One of us is. gcomeau Aug 2015 #181

That's ridiculous and you know it. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #185

Which Supreme Court Justices are you calling on here for support? stone space Aug 2015 #150

All nine at the time. Majority and dissenting. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #152

Virtually no federal govt. regulation of the militia before the 1890s. NT 1939 Aug 2015 #121

You're off by 100 years or so... gcomeau Aug 2015 #171

CORRECTION: RKBA is not a universal right; it is a US right. Kip Humphrey Aug 2015 #58

RKBA is NOT a "universal right". It is MERELY a unique American philosophy, not a "right" at all. Turn CO Blue Aug 2015 #101

RKBA is a universal right? blackspade Aug 2015 #31

So pass a law and rights go "POOF!"? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #35

So, what the fuck are they doing there? blackspade Aug 2015 #42

"The RKBA is unequally applied both for minorities and non-firearms." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #46

Could I have some ranch with your word salad? blackspade Aug 2015 #55

The only one being terrorized is your imagination. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #60

In the mind set of right now... BrainDrain Aug 2015 #69

Terrorism is a crime uponit7771 Aug 2015 #124

^^ THIS ^^ jonno99 Aug 2015 #106

Innocent people don't terrorize others uponit7771 Aug 2015 #125

delete uponit7771 Aug 2015 #122

This is false on its face, but go ahead and imagine a group of openly racist black men with guns... uponit7771 Aug 2015 #123

Then you are wrong on your face because the Huey P Newton Gun Club made its march in TX. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #131

The gun club has NO OPENLY RACIST agenda at all like the SPLC says the Oath Keepers does so uponit7771 Aug 2015 #132

No one ever came close to saying the HPNGC had racist intent. Stop making up nonsense. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #137

You brought up HPNGC not me, I said imagine openly racist blacks walking through a.. uponit7771 Aug 2015 #140

How can the defining variable be the presence or absence of racist intent when gauging if Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #141

SPLC Defined the Oath Keepers as an extremist group, HPNGC was never defined as a extremist group uponit7771 Aug 2015 #163

The SPLC is not a court of law. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #164

2A itself is not racist just the way it's implemented in America, it's not even handed ONE BIT... uponit7771 Aug 2015 #165

The 4A isn't applied evenly across the races either, i.e. Stop & Frisk which, coincidentally Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #166

How bout they leave just based on their own words? Reading them they sound like kooks... uponit7771 Aug 2015 #167

What words would those be? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #168

Well... maybe there deeds... like the Bundy ranch these guys are going to leave Oregon too cause uponit7771 Aug 2015 #175

If you are familiar with BrainDrain Aug 2015 #161

SLPC designated Oath Keepers as openly extremis, not the HPNGC... I'm talking about the people today uponit7771 Aug 2015 #162

There are strawman arguments... BrainDrain Aug 2015 #191

I can read the words the SPLC wrote...no need for super powers uponit7771 Aug 2015 #192

So you again answer none of my questions. blackspade Aug 2015 #144

A) Maybe they're there because they think militarized police are an affront to civil society Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #154

Weak sauce. blackspade Aug 2015 #157

Typical. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #158

Makes the Trayvon Martin case so notable. 1939 Aug 2015 #126

For the last question its been nearly the same as whites in their neighborhood, for the first blacks uponit7771 Aug 2015 #133

There's a made up word "hoplophobia" that RKBAers commonly use. stone space Aug 2015 #148

From Wikipedia Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #159

Dude. Seriously? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #160

Syntax uponit7771 Aug 2015 #120

If you're not in Ferguson, you have no right to say who or what is terrorizing the citizens there. dgibby Aug 2015 #71

Are you in Ferguson? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #73

No, which is why dgibby Aug 2015 #79

The self-described "oath keepers" are terrorists allowed to roam in that community. pnwmom Aug 2015 #134

From the pics posted around DU the protesters don't look intimidated. The cops seem to be Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #139

What do you think would happen if Black protesters walked around like that? sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #78

The Huey P Newton Gun Club already has. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #88

Good points, regarding rights. So to me then it seems, this needs to be tested sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #91

That is why the people are the first, last and best guarantors of their rights and liberty. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #93

True but for that to happen, people have to be united. So why is the NRA not out there sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #94

The NRA advocated for Shaneen Allen. Sheriff David Clarke was profiled in their magazine. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #96

Well, here's what I see. I see groups like the NRA arguing that Americans have the right sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #97

I've never seen the Sierra Club support #BLM either. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #98

Exception and not the rule, RayGun Defined the rule... uponit7771 Aug 2015 #118

Crickets. dgibby Aug 2015 #89

RKBA'ers are part of the problem awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #102

And yet it is the POLICE that hand-cuffed the girl. So who is the greater danger here? nt jonno99 Aug 2015 #107

The racists Oathkeeper's are little awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #129

that picture of the little girl is both enraging and heart breaking. cali Aug 2015 #2

Police are claiming... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #48

"I don't have a perspective" says the 'oath-keeper! elias49 Aug 2015 #5

He also doesn't have a clue mythology Aug 2015 #22

the line: "I don't have a perspective" demwing Aug 2015 #36

"But I got me a GUN, a big, manly GUN-for-brains - it speaks for me".....terrorists doing their work. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #82

If he doesn't have perspective, what the fuck is he doing there? onecaliberal Aug 2015 #135

Open carry is legal in Missouri Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #13

The Terrorists should be arrested, jailed, and their guns confiscated for life. stone space Aug 2015 #18

That doesn't change the fact SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #25

The Huey P Newton Gun Club showed that blacks can protest armed and remain unmolested. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #43

I disagree. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #53

Well, I'd call having the very law changed SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #65

I'm sure heavily armed Black Panthers will be allowed to patrol white neighborhoods as well. jalan48 Aug 2015 #14

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Aug 2015 #26

The answer, of course, is to apply the law equally to all....... WillowTree Aug 2015 #30

Perfect. dgibby Aug 2015 #74

... they will, WITH incident though. uponit7771 Aug 2015 #119

I would so love to see that. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #156

They did, yesterday Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #188

The sharp end of the stick of national white privilege is a an all-white privileged policing authority. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #15

I agree. jalan48 Aug 2015 #16

Exactly and the Native Americans have been treated like this wherever there is money to be made. jwirr Aug 2015 #38

+1 freshwest Aug 2015 #92

I'm watching a report by Andrea Mitchell dgibby Aug 2015 #77

What I like to call "shallow coverage" long after the fact and when the propagandists finally are Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #80

None that I've seen. dgibby Aug 2015 #84

Blacks will have no choice in today's America, JEB Aug 2015 #17

Nauseating JackInGreen Aug 2015 #19

Time for Ferguson residents to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights. muntrv Aug 2015 #20

Looking for a bloodbath? Might be fun to sit back and watch, huh? (nt) stone space Aug 2015 #21

And there will be a bloodbathe. Look at history: Black Panthers. All it takes is to convince white jwirr Aug 2015 #44

History suggests you are wrong. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #56

"Forward, he cried, from the rear, and the front rank died" stone space Aug 2015 #142

Don't need to tell me who that is. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #143

Your Gun Worship is a filthy religion. Stop trying to impose it on people. (nt) stone space Aug 2015 #145

Stop making shit up. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #153

In an African-American neighborhood no less malaise Aug 2015 #23

Message: Black is bad, white is right. Fuck the pigs and their KKK Oath fucking guards. L0oniX Aug 2015 #24

Message: The Oathkeepers and the cops look alike csziggy Aug 2015 #90

Oath keepers my ass. blackspade Aug 2015 #27

I've been told the police PatrynXX Aug 2015 #28

Missouri needs the law NC has- Armed at the terror of the public Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #41

+100000000. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for bringing it up. n/t Hoyt Aug 2015 #49

If my memory is correct from BLET the law was passed to target the Klan Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #54

That would definitely fit these Oath Keeper yahoos, and the Border Klan. Hoyt Aug 2015 #61

It would indeed. I made a few arrests for it Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #62

The police found reason to arrest two journalists typing on their laptops in McDonald's. pnwmom Aug 2015 #136

The blue line is thick enough that it covers far right terrorist groups too Taitertots Aug 2015 #32

WHAT A FUCKED UP COUNTRY! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #34

We can thank Infowars and Alex Jones for this one. Initech Aug 2015 #184

I wish Obama would hurry up and put all these gun humpers into an old Walmart somewhere. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #186

Or I think we should use George Carlin's state prison farm idea. Initech Aug 2015 #190

Spare us the RKBA justifications, Gun Enthusiasts. Paladin Aug 2015 #39

Much of the terror inflicted upon black folk and most of white America as well is related to loving the Gun Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #50

Amen brother! Moostache Aug 2015 #86

Wonder what reaction would be to the Huey P Newton Gun Club? gordianot Aug 2015 #57

Human filth. That's what these cops and oathkeepers are. Human filth. nt valerief Aug 2015 #63

There is a lesson for protesters to take from this Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #64

are you saying that kpete Aug 2015 #66

No, I'm not saying that at all Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #70

"I don't know what she did or didn't do or why they arrested her." Do you care to find out? Rex Aug 2015 #75

I don't have a magic cop hotline I can call and ask Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #83

You must have not been a cop for very long, you don't seem to know many cops. Rex Aug 2015 #180

You mean if there is a White Only water fountain law..do not push it, just hang around the fountain? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #85

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you must live in a very white area. Marr Aug 2015 #138

Wow. Seriously? OK, black folk. Here's the plan. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2015 #155

OathKeepers are anti-American racist assholes. And they're stupid too. nt TeamPooka Aug 2015 #81

Well it seems we have a few options sarisataka Aug 2015 #87

It does appear people with firearms have more rights... gordianot Aug 2015 #95

US is turning into a large, heavily armed Third World republic. Like Colombia, only more racist leveymg Aug 2015 #108

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ECONOMICS!!! uponit7771 Aug 2015 #117

Why are these idiots there?!? onecaliberal Aug 2015 #127

Rude Pundit, 8/12/2015: Gun nuts vs. Oath Keepers Paladin Aug 2015 #172