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In reply to the discussion: the evolution of a charge: from white privilege to white supremacist [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)47. I moved from a place where the schools were awful.
That area is vast majority white. "Rust belt" area where all the manufacturing jobs have literally been sent to China. The only people left there are either 1) working at the base where I was working, or 2) the children who grew up in that city who were unable to escape.
Where I live now, the county next door has bad schools. Thanks to the remnants of segregation, that county is almost entirely white.
The majority black county in the other direction? (Yet more remnants of segregation) Schools are better. Not as good as the county I'm in, because that black county has less money.
Sometimes, it's not a dogwhistle. Sometimes, it really is poverty. And sometimes, it is a dogwhistle.
Many people of color perceive the admonitions "now isn't the time," "BLM is shooting themselves in the foot," etc., etc. as white people feeling entitled to set the narrative.
And sometimes allies are saying "You say you are trying to reach people like me. What you're doing is turning away people like me."
If you want to "get through" to some group of people, honest feedback is helpful in tuning your message. It lowers the mountain you are trying to climb.
And not all feedback is honest. Sometimes the person just doesn't like being challenged. But that doesn't mean all people giving feedback dislike being challenged.
And sometimes, you just have to piss everyone off to get sufficient attention.
Human societies are not simple "black and white" constructs. There is never one "correct" way to do anything. Very few people actually fit neatly into the boxes we are desperately shoving them into.
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Do you really think that if a Trump supporter, or David Koch, or an Alex Jones-head had taken that
GreatGazoo
Aug 2015
#15
"their hierarchy of needs placed their emotions above the urgency of black Lives"
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#19
I agree, generally, but I think people are much more racist than they believe they are.
alarimer
Aug 2015
#11
no, they're not really hurt. I do find this intellectually interesting from a sociological perspect
cali
Aug 2015
#16
Many DUers have long recognized the "white privilege" meme as divisive, unproductive,
Nye Bevan
Aug 2015
#22
Therefore all white people in the US are truly progressive on race relations,
ronnie624
Aug 2015
#38
No, and I suggest you find someone who likes playing "Yes you are"/No I'm not" all day. I do not.
whathehell
Aug 2015
#91
You do realize that all meanings of a word in a dictionary entry are valid, right?
Gormy Cuss
Aug 2015
#97
There is an inheirent privilege to race. Race is the second assumption marker at first sight.
haele
Aug 2015
#56
It's not factual. It makes biased treatment the "norm", and fair treatment a "privilege"
whathehell
Aug 2015
#31
Exactly. Being treated courteously and respectfully by a cop should not be considered a "privilege",
Nye Bevan
Aug 2015
#32
Again, there's no 'privilige' in not being searched without probable cause..
whathehell
Aug 2015
#39
To the extent, that it isn't eroded, if not fully cancelled out, by the construction of my body..
whathehell
Aug 2015
#59
LOL/ I've gone dizzy trying to find it with so many people responding in this thread.
mmonk
Aug 2015
#104
Not sure what that has to do with your comment re: white guilt, but okay. n/t
OneGrassRoot
Aug 2015
#45