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hifiguy

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31. A riff on it still exists.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 05:26 PM
Aug 2015

But it has migrated up to the professional level.

High-level law firms, where I have had my experiences, genuinely don't care about race any more, at least if you are middle-class or above, and it's for monetary reasons. They wantand need lawyers who look like and can relate to their clients, who are increasingly diverse. I've even heard it bruited about that there aren't enough candidates available for the spots they'd like to fill; and I think this is an honest comment. Many big firms are gonna woo a well-qualified young African American law student or attorney as if he/she were a Disney prince(ss) these days.

Now if you're working class like I was when in my last years of law school, well, that's a different kettle of fish altogether. I grew up in a very working class suburb. Dads there were electricians, mechanics, worked for the city or state, were teachers, worked in factories, and the fancy-Dans had a one/two man accounting practice or insurance agency. Hell, they were royalty in the burb where I grew up. No doctors, lawyers or "executives", that was for sure.

Despite graduating college summa cum laude and making it all the way to Harvard Law, every firm but one made sure that "where did you go to high school, hifiguy?" was one of the first three questions asked by a partner. Translation: "Do your parents have money, connections, or, preferably, both? Are you Our Kind of Person?" I din't go to high school - dropped out when I was 16 to play bass and smoke dope - but the name of my hometown got responses of dead silence or "Oh....well" And I am a real Joe Average in terms of appearance - neither fat nor skinny, tall nor short, ugly nor handsome. I know how to be polite and professional in all surroundings, had an appropriate haircut, and how to dress appropriately despite being Asperger's. I am very reticent and rather socially awkward F2F, though, and always have been. But where I would have went to high school was far more important to them than the fact that I made it to Harvard Law School. Not our kind, dear. NEXT!

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I had an African American friend years ago who called it white entitlement. Cleita Aug 2015 #1
These words are simply shades of the same idea Generic Other Aug 2015 #4
I agree we need to do more in making others and ourselves more aware of how Cleita Aug 2015 #10
She thinks all who benefit a system Generic Other Aug 2015 #18
"If white entitlement or white privilege isn't a strong enough term, find one that is but not..." JTFrog Aug 2015 #14
I'm still fed up with the word Nazis here who can't tell the difference between a noun and an Cleita Aug 2015 #16
Word nazis indeed. JTFrog Aug 2015 #23
it is deep and it is real Supersedeas Aug 2015 #45
Privilege 1939 Aug 2015 #2
and if you weren't white you were shown the door tk2kewl Aug 2015 #5
I think this is an important point Generic Other Aug 2015 #9
absolutely tk2kewl Aug 2015 #13
I think I got a job once in an all male department because I was a woman and they Cleita Aug 2015 #19
A riff on it still exists. hifiguy Aug 2015 #31
Kudos to you for trying. cheapdate Aug 2015 #3
Thank you. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2015 #6
"How I was raised" Generic Other Aug 2015 #7
Not exactly sure what you're suggesting. cheapdate Aug 2015 #20
You sound very self-aware Generic Other Aug 2015 #26
That's a fine thing. cheapdate Aug 2015 #35
What a wonderful American story! Generic Other Aug 2015 #36
Most people are raised in countries where the dominant culture rules. Igel Aug 2015 #41
White privilege is real, and I see it every day. Maedhros Aug 2015 #8
She experiences it too Generic Other Aug 2015 #11
Well, calling Bernie a "white supremacist" would be like calling Ms. Johnson an "Uncle Tom". Maedhros Aug 2015 #12
Exactly. I don't really excoriate Ms. Johnson for the use of the term. I think she didn't Cleita Aug 2015 #17
I think the point is that no white people are immune Generic Other Aug 2015 #22
White Supremacy as an ethos involves a conscious adoption Maedhros Aug 2015 #24
Unaware of the racism of the police state or refusing to acknowledge? Generic Other Aug 2015 #28
I once served on a jury for a case in which is was patently obvious that the police Maedhros Aug 2015 #33
I too have seen it apnu Aug 2015 #27
i'm a 74 year old white female. not only DesertFlower Aug 2015 #15
Oh, yeah years ago for women, you couldn't be fat or over thirty or too plain looking if you Cleita Aug 2015 #21
my first job was as a receptionist in DesertFlower Aug 2015 #37
The very words "white supremacist" are supercharged ... ananda Aug 2015 #25
Soul searching Generic Other Aug 2015 #29
Don't bother. hifiguy Aug 2015 #30
I would call it institutionalized or societal white supremacy susanr516 Aug 2015 #32
Biracial families understand Generic Other Aug 2015 #34
I consider myself Latina because of my mother but my Cleita Aug 2015 #38
Great post Generic Other Matariki Aug 2015 #39
Thank goodness I'm not a "liberal" or "progressive", delrem Aug 2015 #40
Well that doesn't sound like me! Generic Other Aug 2015 #43
My guess is we're all "mixed race". I self-identify as Cherokee even though I'm only 15/64. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #42
They sound like folks Guthrie sang about Generic Other Aug 2015 #44
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