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GoldenEagle16

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80. Because we can't trust women to be honest about sexual assault.

Reply to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #78)

Wed Aug 12, 2015, 08:36 PM

Aug 2015

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Julian Assange Expected to Be Set Free Next Week [View all] lordsummerisle Aug 2015 OP

So basically he got 3 years of "embassy arrest". n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #1

Better than Gitmo arrest which is what he feared if you Cleita Aug 2015 #2

Unusual things DO have a way of happening, and quite often, hifiguy Aug 2015 #7

Three years evading prosecution from rape BainsBane Aug 2015 #3

Oy. nt hifiguy Aug 2015 #9

yup. navarth Aug 2015 #102

The rape charge doesn't expire until 2020 GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #11

It would appear BainsBane Aug 2015 #13

Different members of his so-called "legal team" say different things at different times struggle4progress Aug 2015 #89

Can't say as I've kept on top of the lawyers involved BainsBane Aug 2015 #91

This is ALTERNET, and they sometimes don't tell the truth. MADem Aug 2015 #132

Whatever. elias49 Aug 2015 #32

Pretty much.. Dornick Aug 2015 #101

Assange was homegirl Aug 2015 #104

thank you. nt navarth Aug 2015 #108

Then you are no feminist hifiguy Aug 2015 #110

I imagine it's difficult to cower behind implication so often LanternWaste Aug 2015 #170

So the arrest warrants were wrong? Nt hack89 Aug 2015 #112

You honestly think MI6 or the CIA, hifiguy Aug 2015 #119

So dropping the charges is irrelevant hack89 Aug 2015 #122

He's now too high profile to just be hifiguy Aug 2015 #123

He wasn't high profile three years ago? hack89 Aug 2015 #128

They were given five months to question him in the Ecuadorian embassy . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #124

Maybe if they had something like "evidence" or corroborated , consistent testimony under oath, bvar22 Aug 2015 #177

What about Chelsea Manning? DemocraticWing Aug 2015 #4

And there you have the answer for why Assange has been in the Ecudorean embassy for 3 years. nt truebluegreen Aug 2015 #57

Blammo. hifiguy Aug 2015 #75

Yup. closeupready Aug 2015 #159

Were I in the UK, I should be most pleased to see him tried under the Bail Act struggle4progress Aug 2015 #5

Good. Octafish Aug 2015 #6

+! hifiguy Aug 2015 #21

True enough. elias49 Aug 2015 #33

Correct. 840high Aug 2015 #36

Journalism and perhaps ozone_man Aug 2015 #50

Right again, Octafish. hedda_foil Aug 2015 #68

All the whistleblowers convicted over the past 15 years need be pardoned. They are heroes. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #69

If the US really wants him, they will have the British police arrest him when he leaves the embassy. Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #8

I'm certainly agree they (we) are more interested truebluegreen Aug 2015 #63

The fourth charge, which is for rape, does not expire for another five years GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #10

Yeah, and the Brits would probably like a crack at him for bail jumping cemaphonic Aug 2015 #12

657. Tolling of Statute of Limitations PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #16

Yikes! Bail jumping! Now we're talking big-leagues! elias49 Aug 2015 #35

Dog the Bounty Hunter still around? hifiguy Aug 2015 #59

IIRC one of his lawyers has said JA can't leave the embassy until the UK promises struggle4progress Aug 2015 #96

He owes a lot of money to a LOT of people--some of whom are pissed off. MADem Aug 2015 #135

LOL. bvar22 Aug 2015 #181

Well, get ready to write a check, then! MADem Aug 2015 #183

Writing the check is the easy part. bvar22 Aug 2015 #184

Really? Tell that to Buddy Cianci and Rod Blagojevich!! MADem Aug 2015 #185

Easily: bvar22 Aug 2015 #186

You're not hot at all. You claimed that rich people don't go to jail. I proved you wrong. MADem Aug 2015 #188

however reorg Aug 2015 #15

If she described a rape then it was a rape GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #17

she didn't n/t reorg Aug 2015 #23

Have you actually read the charges on his arrest warrant? GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #25

of course I did n/t reorg Aug 2015 #27

So unwanted and forced intercourse is ok in your book? ok. nt GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #29

it was quite the opposite of 'unwanted' and wasn't 'forced' neither n/t reorg Aug 2015 #31

Here are the four charges. Defend these if you can. GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #39

expired, expired, expired, reorg Aug 2015 #49

So none of those charges equal sexual assault in your mind? GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #53

no, they were all based on lies n/t reorg Aug 2015 #61

Charges equal the square root of zilch hifiguy Aug 2015 #62

Couldn't have anything to do with that sleazy rove now, could it? Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #78

Because we can't trust women to be honest about sexual assault. GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #80

So why bother with a trial at all? hifiguy Aug 2015 #85

Actually, a trial would be good. Codeine Aug 2015 #97

I agree that the woman deserves her day in court. Nt hack89 Aug 2015 #105

I am a woman who has been raped. I am honest. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #92

Thank you. sibelian Aug 2015 #141

Thank You. bvar22 Aug 2015 #176

... something, something, something...Scotsboro Boys and rape charges. Hoppy Aug 2015 #111

So women cannot be trusted when it comes to accusations of sexual assault hack89 Aug 2015 #114

Use the internet tubes to find Innocense Project and look at cases of Hoppy Aug 2015 #117

So beside Assange being all edgy and dreamy hack89 Aug 2015 #120

And the way we resolve these disputes are trials mythology Aug 2015 #154

The context of this case is international espionage hifiguy Aug 2015 #125

Note: bvar22 Aug 2015 #194

So that justifies slut shaming and calling them liars? hack89 Aug 2015 #195

I don't believe I have engaged in "slut shaming" or naming any specific person a "liar". bvar22 Aug 2015 #196

You just jumped into the middle of thread full of both hack89 Aug 2015 #197

...and there is a reason I posted what I posted, bvar22 Aug 2015 #198

So your instinct in rape cases is to trust the man over the woman hack89 Aug 2015 #199

No, but my experience in courtrooms has taught me that: bvar22 Aug 2015 #200

Prosecutors were given ample opportunity to question him at the Ecuadorian embassy . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #127

Why did he flee Sweden after the prosecutor asked to interview him? hack89 Aug 2015 #130

Fleeing is not necessarily an admission of guilt . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #131

Because he refused to agree to surrender if arrested . Nt hack89 Aug 2015 #133

He actually agreed to go to Sweden IF they agreed not to extradite him to the U.S. They refused. markpkessinger Aug 2015 #134

It is a promise they can't make - Sweden has an independent judiciary GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #143

OMG, this case has been political from the very beginning - reorg Aug 2015 #150

They couldn't arrest him GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #145

Quit posting false information reorg Aug 2015 #152

I.E. if SHE said it was rape, it was, unequivocally ? elias49 Aug 2015 #38

Here are the four charges. Judge for yourself. GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #41

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #43

So if she wasn't such a slut she wouldn't have been raped? GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #44

Holy shit you did not just write that! Codeine Aug 2015 #48

Grow up. nt elias49 Aug 2015 #56

Says the rape apologist. Codeine Aug 2015 #64

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #73

*mic drop* nt Codeine Aug 2015 #77

And a predictably bullshit hide by the Assange Fan Club. nt Codeine Aug 2015 #99

+a zillion...nt SidDithers Aug 2015 #93

You grow up. Cha Aug 2015 #142

What? etherealtruth Aug 2015 #51

Here they come! elias49 Aug 2015 #54

Yeah, that's it etherealtruth Aug 2015 #55

Yep, anyone who doesn't want to be raped is a man-hater. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #66

Maybe you won't get a hide on that thread. nt Codeine Aug 2015 #67

LoL. This gorilla gets it hifiguy Aug 2015 #71

You have heard this before: etherealtruth Aug 2015 #82

Even for heroic chick magnets? Codeine Aug 2015 #83

Sadly, nothing surprises me any more etherealtruth Aug 2015 #87

He was obviously a chick magnet and everybody knew it n/t reorg Aug 2015 #60

Are you people for fucking real? Codeine Aug 2015 #70

huh? reorg Aug 2015 #74

People are willing to dismiss rape, because he's a "hero" tammywammy Aug 2015 #76

It wasn't 'rape', and why don't you ask the Swedes reorg Aug 2015 #79

This is what I'm willing to sacrifice... tammywammy Aug 2015 #81

right, another swear word - almost like a grown-up reorg Aug 2015 #84

+ a zillion...nt SidDithers Aug 2015 #98

Jury results on post 81 JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2015 #149

Jury results Tanuki Aug 2015 #151

Survived the hide. I feel the same. randome Aug 2015 #167

It says "rape" on the European Arrest Warrant. cemaphonic Aug 2015 #139

Sure, they will 'attempt' to charge him with reorg Aug 2015 #148

Of course, you mean the 'alleged" rape. bvar22 Aug 2015 #182

Sofia Wil�n did not know what happened to her was rape. joshcryer Aug 2015 #138

that doesn't seem to be entirely correct reorg Aug 2015 #14

What a bunch of self serving bull shit GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #18

the Swedes obviously didn't want to pursue these allegations reorg Aug 2015 #24

What the fuck are you talking about? GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #28

they had three years time to interview him in the embassy n/t reorg Aug 2015 #30

But he would not agree to surrender if arrested GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #34

I think you pulled one thread too many elias49 Aug 2015 #40

That was the crux of the issue GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #42

you don't know shit about how the Swedes do things reorg Aug 2015 #45

And if arrested, they would have been extradited to Sweden, correct? GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #47

Yawn reorg Aug 2015 #52

So you display your ignorance of Swedish legal procedures and defend rape. GoldenEagle16 Aug 2015 #58

I suggest you read up a little about 'Swedish procedures', bye n/t reorg Aug 2015 #65

That's simply paranoiac narcissism. randome Aug 2015 #19

coulda woulda shoulda reorg Aug 2015 #26

Until the end of time. hifiguy Aug 2015 #90

Nonsense like "the UK is a close ally and would love to help us"? jeff47 Aug 2015 #94

Looking forward to Wikileaks exposing more MIC dirt in a vicious decade long vendetta. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #20

+1 nt hifiguy Aug 2015 #22

He has made it big time seveneyes Aug 2015 #37

Long and tough road, but the destination (TRUTH) is worth it. bvar22 Aug 2015 #46

Amen to that bvar. hifiguy Aug 2015 #72

I'm surprised he has survived this long.... bvar22 Aug 2015 #178

As am I. hifiguy Aug 2015 #179

He'd only fall a few feet where he's at right now.... MADem Aug 2015 #187

Of Course, you know that the phrase... bvar22 Aug 2015 #189

Defenestration.....did he jump, or was he pushed? MADem Aug 2015 #191

Statute on the 4th accusation, rape... SidDithers Aug 2015 #86

His lawyers are probably gambling that the Swedes won't have enough evidence to prove it. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #95

Do they have evidence on the other charges? joshcryer Aug 2015 #137

Yes, the other charges are easier to prove. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #155

But they can simply let him sit for another 5 years hack89 Aug 2015 #153

The charge isn't dropped. So if he leaves the embassy, the UK is supposed jeff47 Aug 2015 #156

And he has no intention of leaving the embassy. hack89 Aug 2015 #157

Except for the story in the OP that says he does. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #160

So he no longer fears extradition to the US via Sweden? hack89 Aug 2015 #161

So...the claim that he would be scooped up by the US is a lie? jeff47 Aug 2015 #88

The idea was that once under trial in Sweden, the USA would file a request for his extradition Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #140

And the big gaping hole in this idea jeff47 Aug 2015 #158

He hadn't broken any UK laws either. Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #164

He doesn't have to break any UK laws for the US to seek extradition. jeff47 Aug 2015 #165

Except for skipping bail. He may still need to face the music for that. randome Aug 2015 #166

"Set free"? He's in the Ecuadorian Embassy by his own choice. George II Aug 2015 #100

And the British Crown spent something like 12 million pounds... backscatter712 Aug 2015 #103

Just "rape" is fine. No need to minimize it with cutesy phraseology. nt Codeine Aug 2015 #106

So Sweden claims. backscatter712 Aug 2015 #109

TPTB want to get their hands on Assange hifiguy Aug 2015 #113

Yes. Certainly, we know black people don't appear to have a right to life, liberty closeupready Aug 2015 #162

Fantastic! navarth Aug 2015 #107

So he was lying about being extradited to America? hack89 Aug 2015 #115

I think the charges are lies navarth Aug 2015 #118

Isn't that why we have trials? To settle such issues? Nt hack89 Aug 2015 #121

Ask the Rosenbergs navarth Aug 2015 #126

Well, Ethel anyway . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #129

Julius Rosenberg was unquestionably guilty. Codeine Aug 2015 #144

what system do you propose, since the trial thingy does not work? treestar Aug 2015 #147

I propose we find Assange GUILTY navarth Aug 2015 #180

Not an answer treestar Aug 2015 #192

It's the answer you wanted navarth Aug 2015 #193

Good point treestar Aug 2015 #146

.... Historic NY Aug 2015 #116

These threads they go like this. Rex Aug 2015 #136

I have no idea what you mean by this n/t lordsummerisle Aug 2015 #171

"Set free"? He isn't imprisoned, he's hiding under diplomatic cover Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #163

Not all of his charges are being dropped. backscatter712 Aug 2015 #168

There are no charges. Zorra Aug 2015 #169

Fair point. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2015 #172

Semantic games cemaphonic Aug 2015 #173

There are no charges. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #174

Then why is he hiding? randome Aug 2015 #175

Bookmarking...nt SidDithers Aug 2015 #190

And hopefully not nabbed by US agents 10 minutes later FiveGoodMen Aug 2015 #201

HE IS NOT BEING 'SET FREE' markpkessinger Aug 2015 #202

I agree with their statement lordsummerisle Aug 2015 #203