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H2O Man

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Thu Aug 13, 2015, 12:40 PM Aug 2015

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“Wars teach us not to love our enemies, but to hate our allies.”
-- W. L. George


One of the darnedest things that happens in times of social unrest -- such as that which the people of the United States are experiencing now -- fits what W. L. George said about wars. We witness this every time we watch the news, or read a newspaper, and see people reacting to important events. And we see how damaging that process is, by simply reading too many of the divisive OP/threads on DU:GD.

The concept of debating an important issue is, in and of itself, neutral. A debate has the potential to become positive or negative; meaningful or meaningless; constructive or destructive. Let’s consider, for example, the concept of a Democratic Party’s presidential primary contest -- although this OP is not about the 2016 primary. And let’s say that there are ten issues of great importance to the party as a whole. These issues include both domestic and international tensions, of course, because these always overlap.

No one candidate is going to have the absolute “best” positions on each of the ten issues. Indeed, no individual who serves as President of the United States will, either. It’s not going to happen. Yet, there are plenty of good and sincere people who actually believe that a president -- an individual man or woman -- has the ability to institute enough positive changes to “save” America. That is no more rooted in reality, than believing the world will end in 1928, and God will come down from the sky to “save” us.

What the process is intended to do is to identify the most qualified and capable individual, who not only has the best stance on the majority of those ten important issues, but also create a coalition of allies to coordinate efforts to deal with all ten issues. To the extent that a man or woman can do that, is the measure of the good potential achieved.

The negative potential, obviously, is found when people limit their focus to one or two of the ten issues that confront us. It is part of human nature to see that which involves your self, family, and friends as the most important -- and it is, to you, your family, and friends. And that makes it important. It’s also important to understand that other people, confronted by different circumstances, is going to be focused on that which concerns him-/herself, family, and friends.

More, it is both possible and important to recognize that while each of us will be “experts” in the issues that confront and concern us the most, there will be other equally important issues that we are less familiar with. That doesn’t mean we are totally ignorant: we are likely to know more about the issue than the average person, from being exposed by way of the media or some form of education. But we haven’t been exposed in the sense of our life-experience. (Perhaps we can illustrate this by considering the issue of sex with another person. One might read about sex, even study it in a “sex-ed” class in high school; or watch it on television. Despite having a passionate interest in having sex with another person, one cannot fully understand the experience, until one has engaged in it.)

Now, I do not know what it is like to have a police officer assault and/or kill me, because I am black. I do know what it is like to be beaten while handcuffed. I have had a cousin and his son shot by a law enforcement officer. I’ve had a nephew attacked, and left for dead, by a group of racist thugs, who hated my nephew because he is black. But I simple cannot have the experience of being assaulted/ murdered for being black.

Likewise, because I am not gay, I’ve never had the experience of being threatened, assaulted, and/or murdered, because I am gay. Now, I have had people call me gay, as an intended insult, simply because I have long hair. It would be easier, and hence more likely, that a hateful person could mistake me for being gay, than being black. And while being called names doesn’t bother me as an individual -- I do not think of being black or gay as a “bad” thing -- the aggressive behavior of hateful thugs towards blacks, gays, and other human being is disturbing to me. For around the same time my family dealt with the assault upon my nephew, the vicious murder of Matthew Shepard was in the news. And the murder of James Byrd, Jr.

These individual cases show how closely related those ten important issues are. And not simply in the context of a given campaign. No, these issues demand our best efforts. And that means on an on-going basis, at every level.

In reality, just as no US President is going to “save” us -- for even if he or she wanted to, they could not -- no individual on this forum, nor any group in the nation, is an “expert” on each of those ten issues. Thus, a serious effort requires a united front, a coalition, that includes groups and intervals with expertise in each of the ten areas. And that means that wee have “allies” -- a word that has caused some degree of tensions between various groups and individuals, even here in this diverse community of DU.

The concept of allies has, of course, both positive and negative potentials. Some are basic, and constant. Indeed, it could not be otherwise, for we are talking about human beings. And, in the final analysis, we are all sad and weakly human, thus prone to making errors. For none of us knows everything. Add to this the fact that social-political circumstances frequently change -- though the underlying dynamics may remain much the same -- which requires that we be flexible in order to deal with fluid events.

If people always view their issue as “most important,” a movement stagnates. If they do not understand the significance of “striking while the iron is hot,” a movement fails. The obvious example of this involves the issues with “Black Lives Matter.” That’s a powerful statement f purpose, and absolutely provides a current crisis in society where a united front could make great gains. And while a whole lot of folks get it, we still see how that potential can be wasted -- be it by people who cannot get beyond the, “Yeah, but don’t ALL lives matter?”, to others who are unwilling to accept the imperfections -- real or otherwise -- that they see in potential allies.

Again, all of these problems come down to our being human. And part of being human is the ability to easily see the flaws in others, but lacking the capacity for deep insight into our own short-comings. The belief that, if only this individual, or that group, would do exactly what we want them to do, that things would be better ….when, in reality, the only thing we have control over is our own actions.

We need to be patient with one another, while being impatient with the circumstances that deny social justice to ourselves and fellow citizens. We need to be forgiving in regard to the imperfections of ourselves and our allies, and firm in our demands for progress. That can be hard at times, but not doing so will always be harder.

Peace,
H2O Man
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insightful as always tk2kewl Aug 2015 #1
Thank you. H2O Man Aug 2015 #3
This is such an important OP. Thank you for this. nt stillwaiting Aug 2015 #2
And thank you! H2O Man Aug 2015 #4
Thanks for this OP H2O Man... haikugal Aug 2015 #5
Thank you. H2O Man Aug 2015 #12
A big Kick & highly Recommended. nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #6
Thank you! H2O Man Aug 2015 #13
very well said. nt retrowire Aug 2015 #7
Thanks! H2O Man Aug 2015 #14
If people always view their issue as “most important,” a movement stagnates. jtuck004 Aug 2015 #8
It seemed like H2O Man Aug 2015 #16
KO in the First Round. Zorra Aug 2015 #9
Thanks, Zorra! H2O Man Aug 2015 #17
Good and interesting thoughts. Thanks, H20 Man. ananda Aug 2015 #10
Very well said! H2O Man Aug 2015 #18
it's really amazing how well "i'm sorry" works when you mean it tk2kewl Aug 2015 #20
Right! H2O Man Aug 2015 #21
i don't know if it true for all children, but... tk2kewl Aug 2015 #22
It can be difficult but ... ananda Aug 2015 #24
Good question. H2O Man Aug 2015 #28
I am going to tread lightly here... tk2kewl Aug 2015 #31
Great post! H2O Man Aug 2015 #35
Also well said! ananda Aug 2015 #23
Well, thank you! H2O Man Aug 2015 #29
You will find that people remember who has stood with them and who has refused to do so. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #11
kickers . . annabanana Aug 2015 #15
Thanks! H2O Man Aug 2015 #19
Excellent post Waterman malaise Aug 2015 #25
Thank you! H2O Man Aug 2015 #26
Ten equals one to me. panader0 Aug 2015 #27
"If six turned out H2O Man Aug 2015 #30
It's hard to build a coalition without give or take or falling victim to a more self centered mmonk Aug 2015 #32
Valid point. H2O Man Aug 2015 #33
Great analogies all around. mmonk Aug 2015 #34
Trinity H2O Man Aug 2015 #37
K&R... spanone Aug 2015 #36
Thank you! H2O Man Aug 2015 #38
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