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boppers

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47. Lots of folks countering myths and stereotypes.

Sun May 20, 2012, 03:47 AM

May 2012

"The Bishop can demand proof of tithing, he is not obligated to give a temple recommend. "

And the person asking is not required to be truthful, and the Bishop cannot tell if they are.

"As far as Priesthood "Before beginning their mission, prospective male missionaries are usually ordained to the office of an Elder in the Melchizedek Priesthood (if they do not hold this office already). " "

Yup. 18 and already an "Elder".

"Black men are no longer excluded from this, the religion dropped it's anti black racism around the time that "Animal House" came out."

Black men were among the church's earliest founding members, and were ordained as Elders in the 1800's, then not ordained during a wave of 1900's US racism, and are now being ordained again, which started up again about the time (IIRC) when my school was desegregated by the federal government.

Refusing to lie is not "casual Romney sales people", it's trying to be truthful and honest.

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I don't want to put down Mitt Romney's Mormon faith [View all] gulliver May 2012 OP

Well said, gulliver... kentuck May 2012 #1

Really? Romney winning is good? braddy May 2012 #23

It's a Modest Proposal, really. nt msanthrope May 2012 #78

What is a modest proposal? braddy May 2012 #81

"Satire is a sort of glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody's face but their own." msanthrope May 2012 #82

Dig the satire, Gulliver. I would only add that it wasn't Romney's fault before 1978 that coalition_unwilling May 2012 #2

sub-humans Dandini May 2012 #6

Well, isn't that special? Romney was a bishop in a denomination that, until coalition_unwilling May 2012 #19

If your faith has a history of sexism and racism, I think it's fair game. I also think that you can NC_Nurse May 2012 #3

"If your faith has a history of sexism and racism" white_wolf May 2012 #4

Exactly. Religious folks like to use their religion to push laws and public policy they want and NC_Nurse May 2012 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Dandini May 2012 #7

Issues with racism and sexism are deep in the past now. gulliver May 2012 #9

uh, so how did Mitt do when asked for spiritual guidance by a female church member? BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #17

???As Mitt might say, there haven't been any issues with Mormons and racism or sexism in almost 300 braddy May 2012 #18

Some folks on this thread need to take a second look at your screen name and then coalition_unwilling May 2012 #25

Serve country first and then do missionary work Dandini May 2012 #13

Romney's line doesn't serve, never has. braddy May 2012 #20

well, it's not like they questioned Obama's christianity or anything.... spanone May 2012 #8

Well, first they aligned him with a whacky Christian preacher... Frank Cannon May 2012 #55

Latter Day Saints, not Latterday-Saints boppers May 2012 #10

Actually its Latter-Day Saints (with a hyphen) n/t FreeState May 2012 #15

Actually it's Latter-day Saints. protect our future May 2012 #26

Yep - thats how it is in the D&C, however... FreeState May 2012 #32

The role of prophets and seers and the end game protect our future May 2012 #60

Romney being a Bishop, is a big deal braddy May 2012 #21

Sunday school isn't much training boppers May 2012 #29

I don't know why one should soft pedal the GOP candidate braddy May 2012 #30

He is not set to be a Seventy FreeState May 2012 #33

Mitt made it to the nomination, he is in line for Mormon rewards braddy May 2012 #34

"the secretive inner circle, the elite, the temple Mormons. " boppers May 2012 #37

Interesting method there. braddy May 2012 #39

15-20 percent? boppers May 2012 #46

ALL!! " Catholics, Baptists, or Lutherans (or whatever) " are allowed in church. braddy May 2012 #48

What? Amazingly wrong. boppers May 2012 #56

I've never donated a dime to the RCC, I'm not a member and I've had audience with two Popes. Bluenorthwest May 2012 #62

Family is allowed at LDS church weddings. boppers May 2012 #73

That is ridiculous braddy May 2012 #68

What church have you been to where they weren't begging for money? boppers May 2012 #72

Thank you for the admission, the money is required to advance in Mormonism and reach God hood braddy May 2012 #80

You can tithe for 6 months before getting married, maybe a few hundred bucks, and it's all good. boppers May 2012 #86

You know that Mormons have three heavens, and even degrees inside of those braddy May 2012 #90

What's your point? boppers May 2012 #95

In Mormonism, founded on sex and money, you have to pay for the best version of heaven braddy May 2012 #97

So, you still go to heaven. Regardless of the level of heaven. boppers May 2012 #100

Your ignorance of Christian churches is thorough braddy May 2012 #114

No passing the plate? No charity box? boppers May 2012 #121

As a Mormon, you believe that Mitt Romney will become a God, is that why you defend the republican? braddy May 2012 #115

I believe in speaking the truth about religion. boppers May 2012 #119

I haven't seen the truth part, I have only seen raw mormonism and anti-Catholicism braddy May 2012 #120

Oh, I can slam the Hindus, Islam, whatever. Most americans are Pauline christians. boppers May 2012 #123

I figured that I was talking to a much more devoted Mormon than was being portrayed braddy May 2012 #125

LOL, I haven't been to temple in ages. No interest in going again. boppers May 2012 #129

I don't know why you are going the "milk before meat" route braddy May 2012 #65

Less than 20% are current, I can believe that. boppers May 2012 #70

The temple activities are secret, that is the Mormon obsession braddy May 2012 #94

A matter of public record is "secret"? boppers May 2012 #102

Yes, the temple is secret, but you know that. braddy May 2012 #103

Sacred is not secret. boppers May 2012 #104

Yes the temple is secret, sacred and secret, they swear an oath on it. braddy May 2012 #105

I believe that everybody already *is* god. boppers May 2012 #112

You already believe that I am a God? I can assure you that I am not. braddy May 2012 #117

Not *a* god. You are God. boppers May 2012 #122

No wonder you are Mormon, but no, I'm not god braddy May 2012 #124

Try to keep up. boppers May 2012 #126

Your posts are over the top pro-Mormon, the most republican religion in America braddy May 2012 #128

If I defend against lies about the Nazis, the KKK, the Black Panthers, it doesn't mean I agree. boppers May 2012 #131

FreeState, I did not realize the Seventy protect our future May 2012 #61

Not all but most FreeState May 2012 #93

Great links! I found this little gem: protect our future May 2012 #133

Wow, I forget how weird this all sounds to people who didn't grow up in it. boppers May 2012 #36

Sure a lot of casual Romney sales people here braddy May 2012 #42

Lots of folks countering myths and stereotypes. boppers May 2012 #47

I'm glad that Mormons quit being racists in 1978, when Animal House was a hit braddy May 2012 #49

Many Jews still don't allow women Rabbis, and a(nother) female Pope? boppers May 2012 #53

I'm glad my elementary school system was finally desegrigated. boppers May 2012 #58

As a religious leader, Romney was teaching racism until 1978 braddy May 2012 #66

Men *and* women *can* become gods and goddesses. boppers May 2012 #71

I never said ALL Mormon men become Gods, but Mitt will, the elite 15% will braddy May 2012 #77

As somebody who was born and raised, but not longer adheres, there's no chance, whatsoever. boppers May 2012 #85

Romney is a very devout, highly respected Mormon, the Prophet, his holiness of Mormonism braddy May 2012 #91

"Bishop and Stake President, Romney is at the top of Mormonism" boppers May 2012 #96

You know that Catholics voted 54% for Obama? Mormons are hard core republicans braddy May 2012 #99

So, 46% of Catholics wanted an insane warmonger and ditzy beauty queen? Not impressed. boppers May 2012 #101

Catholics vote strongly majority democratic, and Mormons vote overwhelmingly, massively republican braddy May 2012 #127

Barely half is not a "strong majority". boppers May 2012 #130

A bishop is over 300-500 members FreeState May 2012 #31

Actually Romney was over Bishops. braddy May 2012 #35

You are confused about the difference. boppers May 2012 #38

Bishops are quite influential within Mormonism braddy May 2012 #43

The "Deacons" in the Mormon church are 14. boppers May 2012 #50

Romney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! braddy May 2012 #52

R-money? boppers May 2012 #57

Romney??? braddy May 2012 #59

Good for the world Dandini May 2012 #11

Absolutely gulliver May 2012 #14

Romney has more support here than I knew. braddy May 2012 #22

I'm not seeing a lot of support here... Did you mean DU, or your locale? boppers May 2012 #41

Really?? What's good for Mormonism is good for America.??? braddy May 2012 #44

Catholoics, and Lutherans, have fought to define the role of men and women in a 200 B.C. frame. boppers May 2012 #51

In Christian religions, women go to heaven equally, but not Mormon women braddy May 2012 #64

Wow, that's horribly mis-informed. boppers May 2012 #69

If the husband uses the woman's secret name, and pulls her into heaven, Men become Gods braddy May 2012 #76

Yeah, that's confusing a temple ritual with church doctrine. boppers May 2012 #84

Catholics vote Democratic, Mormons are fanatical republicans braddy May 2012 #75

The Catholic church is "pro-life", and anti-women clergy, anti-women's health care. boppers May 2012 #83

If you think the democratic voting Catholics are anywhere close to the right wing Mormons braddy May 2012 #87

Fundy Catholics are still trying to deny condoms. Fucking condoms. boppers May 2012 #92

Catholics are good Democrat voters, Mormons are right wing fanatics, will vote 95% rep in 2012. braddy May 2012 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author antigone382 May 2012 #110

Dandini, I am surprised that everything protect our future May 2012 #27

Fuck it - they drove that Rev. Wright BS into the ground in 2008. Initech May 2012 #12

Fair game, and very important as well. protect our future May 2012 #28

We should definitely congratulate Mitt and the Mormons throughout the election. gulliver May 2012 #63

I didn't expect to see so many Romney backers here, DU has changed braddy May 2012 #67

He's not getting any sympathy from me. Initech May 2012 #107

Not you or me, but some here think that Romney will become a God, an actual deity. braddy May 2012 #108

OMG!!!! Really?? Initech May 2012 #109

Not just Mitt, but many, or even most Mormon men will become Gods. braddy May 2012 #113

I think what needs to come out is protect our future May 2012 #135

That is what I'm trying to get at, this is a life shaping thing. braddy May 2012 #136

THE. ORIGINAL. POST. IS. SARCASM. antigone382 May 2012 #111

Now read the rest of the posts on the thread. braddy May 2012 #118

I have not seen any posts from long-term posters that are seriously supporting Romney. antigone382 May 2012 #137

Long term? How about the others? braddy May 2012 #138

And a Romney Presidency could be great for our U.S. space program aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #16

So are they all, all honorable men. n/t Bolo Boffin May 2012 #24

I for one, will welcome our Mormon overloards. progressoid May 2012 #40

Mormons bullied California gays and lesbians, so it's fair game. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #45

Read this: boppers May 2012 #89

Follow the Money for Mitt StitchesforSnitches May 2012 #54

Damn, Gulliver, you are on a roll! Keep 'em coming! SalviaBlue May 2012 #74

An excellent Modest Proposal. nt msanthrope May 2012 #79

Mormons are twisted in theology, ethics, and morality. PufPuf23 May 2012 #88

Not really any more so than any other relligion Major Nikon May 2012 #97

Remember that Mitt Romney will become an actual God according to Mormonism braddy May 2012 #106

Not any worse than promising the gate key to heaven or 72 virgins Major Nikon May 2012 #132

An afterlife versus being groomed to become a God, I see a difference, I think it shows in Mitt. braddy May 2012 #134