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uhnope

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Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:49 PM Aug 2015

"sad internalized black pathology": BLMS activist attacks Black writer, is "disgusted" [View all]

Marissa Jenae Johnson is reacting to criticism of her Sanders rally interruption by going on Facebook with this:

Charles Mudede's writing is the most sad internalized black pathology I have seen in a long time. I'm disgusted by how The Stranger is using him in this critical historical moment.


Here is what is disgusting her:

The Bad Politics of the Black Lives Matter Protesters Who Interrupted Bernie Sanders

Before I criticize the August 8 disruption of the Social Security and Medicare rally in Westlake Park by Black Lives Matter activists Marissa Johnson and Mara Willaford, I want to make a few things clear. One, I support the Black Lives Matter movement, which is decentralized and more like a cloud of urgent conversations and interactions than a conventional political organization. BLM might be seen as a necessary adaptation to the ether-like age of social networks. And in this respect, it is not exceptional. Other such clouds formed in Iran in 2009 and Egypt in 2011. Only racists believe BLM is wrong to insist that black Americans are disproportionately harassed, arrested, jailed, and killed by law-enforcement officers. These claims are supported by hard data, numerous studies, and the experiences of thousands of black Americans. I also share the opinion with Seattle's BLM members that, though our city is progressive (gay mayor, socialist council member, and so on), it maintains an economic and social structure that benefits mostly whites and often blocks opportunities for blacks and reinforces black poverty.
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That said, I disagree with the BLM action not because Bernie Sanders marched with Martin Luther King Jr. and therefore clearly paid his not-a-racist dues and should be left alone by black activists (GOP Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell also marched with MLK). My point is simply that, as imperfect as Sanders is, and as imperfect as white progressives are in this city, it still makes more political sense to form alliances with them rather than risk isolation. As much as I may agree with the content of Johnson and Willaford's disruption, its context (an event that was not for Sanders but for a very important issue that affects millions of black Americans) and its brazen disrespect clearly closed rather than opened a lot of people to the BLM cause.

True, some of the people who booed Johnson and Willaford were likely racist, but many were simply upset by what they perceived, with good reason, as arrogant behavior. The event had been happening for hours, and it had taken months to organize and promote. Speakers knew well in advance the amount of time they were allotted to express their concerns. Then, suddenly, two people break out of nowhere, take the mic, and appear by their actions to claim that their cause is far more important, more pressing than the one many had come to support. This, I'm sorry, is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way—and not because they are racist but because they are human. Rudely jumping the line rarely excites cheers and applause in any of the colors of our kind.

At present, BLM is not a political organization; it is instead a movement, a mood, a roiling cloud of posts and hashtags. As such, it can for sure have an immediate impact and grab the headlines. But the big question is this: Can it have a lasting impact? If it hopes to do so, it will have to consolidate, form a clear structure, create democratic procedures for action, and make alliances with other like-minded political organizations. This is straight talk; this is political realism. BLM will certainly evaporate if it is isolated from one of the major groups that's politically open to its concerns: the progressive left.
http://www.thestranger.com/news/feature/2015/08/12/22681317/the-bad-politics-of-the-black-lives-matter-protesters-who-interrupted-bernie-sanders
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Not seeing the pathology in that writing. (nt) enough Aug 2015 #1
Projection. nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #2
She has heavy emotional issues and is using activism as therapy. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #3
isn't the practice of any philosophy a type of therapy Supersedeas Aug 2015 #40
She is engaged in political ideology not philosophy. Two different things. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #45
Gosh, wish people here had been this interested in Sandra Bland. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #4
Johnson is trashing herself. What about Mr. Mudede? BillZBubb Aug 2015 #6
Uh-uh. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Kurska Aug 2015 #14
+1 JackInGreen Aug 2015 #12
Bland got plenty of topics regarding the injustice of her death. romanic Aug 2015 #17
Thanks, I'll post here when I want. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #25
I was VERY interested in Sandra Bland..She lived about 45 minutes away from me. whathehell Aug 2015 #26
I'm actually more interested in Sandra Bland- who she was, what happened to her... Hydra Aug 2015 #28
I'm guessing she doesn't really care about what anyone Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #30
Ummm...so you're actually not all that interested if we're interested in rolling back racism Hydra Aug 2015 #36
Hurting the movement is a DU opinion. Not reality. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #38
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2015 #46
Mr. Mudede gets it. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #5
And I suspect that most black people get it too. zeemike Aug 2015 #10
I sure as fuck get it noiretextatique Aug 2015 #47
Well I am white and I support them too. zeemike Aug 2015 #52
He does indeed. Seems Ms. Johnson is descending into jargon-jive, much as Palin did. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #63
I see what you did there! BillZBubb Aug 2015 #69
She should wish for a tenth of his insight. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #8
She wanted more than her allotted 15 minutes. GoneOffShore Aug 2015 #68
already with the claims that anyone disagreeing is ... avuncular MisterP Aug 2015 #9
There are many other organizations LuvNewcastle Aug 2015 #11
On one page -- insight vs. delusion. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2015 #13
Typical fundamentalism mentality. TM99 Aug 2015 #15
In so many words romanic Aug 2015 #18
Indeed she did. TM99 Aug 2015 #21
I think that's the point...to tear us apart so we can't affect the needed changes. haikugal Aug 2015 #41
She is a study in fanatism noiretextatique Aug 2015 #48
If only 17 were a child, but she was not then. TM99 Aug 2015 #54
Doesn't this belong in GD/Primaries? Since it involves a primary candidate? n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #16
What does the The Stranger mean? mmonk Aug 2015 #19
I'm guessing it refers to flying rabbit Aug 2015 #23
It's one of our two local free papers JackInGreen Aug 2015 #65
So black people don't always agree treestar Aug 2015 #20
And white people on DU need to dissect this! KittyWampus Aug 2015 #33
Unless Marissa does something again in the national spotlight romanic Aug 2015 #22
An excellent suggestion. Vinca Aug 2015 #24
I think she's brought to the forefront some interesting philosophical, sociological and political cali Aug 2015 #29
Really? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #50
I'd like to do the same Hydra Aug 2015 #31
Disengage noiretextatique Aug 2015 #49
"Sad internalized black pathology"? NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #27
Never has a field of study had its terms hijacked for social opprobrium as has psychology. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #66
So now DU is about white people discussing black people who comment on other black people... KittyWampus Aug 2015 #32
Fail. haikugal Aug 2015 #42
You're right. NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #44
My motive, as a black person, is to call out noiretextatique Aug 2015 #51
Here is a thread in which you were one of the straight people discussing gay people who dared Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author KittyWampus Aug 2015 #55
+1 Marr Aug 2015 #56
Oh dear god, that thread! Prism Aug 2015 #57
Just read that thread. You were very prescient, as if you had seen into the future. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #62
Or some people hold individuals higher than oppression Prism Aug 2015 #64
So long as they are consistent. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #67
Wow, that's a very interesting thread. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2015 #61
Now we are supposed to ignore Marissa Jenae Johnson? aikoaiko Aug 2015 #60
I didn't know this - from in the article JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #34
BLM had potential and... deathrind Aug 2015 #35
The problem is that BLM leadership is supporting the divisive actions so far Hydra Aug 2015 #37
Thank you for posting this article. Tipperary Aug 2015 #39
Thanks for the article.. n/t haikugal Aug 2015 #43
That guy must be a white liberal supremacist. The Straight Story Aug 2015 #58
I think it's time to let her go on DU Prism Aug 2015 #59
Black men apparently shouldn't talk on their own behalf. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #70
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