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In reply to the discussion: I Was Shamed by My Doctor for Being Black [View all]Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)78. For those who don't get why ER docs are jaded and suspect of patients looking for pain meds.
Some reading:
https://hospitalstories.wordpress.com/tag/drug-seeker/
http://allnurses.com/emergency-nursing/best-drug-seeker-885882.html
Some highlights form this one:
Had a guy admitted to the inpatient unit for chest pain, to undergo cardiac angiography the next day. On a heparin gtt and everything. He was getting morphine 2mg q 1 hour as well as lorazepam PRN, both of which he was requesting regularly.
Weird thing was, I recognized him. I had taken care of a guy about a month prior for the same thing, and I remembered his tattoos because we had talked about them. I happened to have a bunch of brain sheets in my locker that I hadn't shredded yet, and I found the one from the month before. It had a different name than this guy, but the same birth date.
Turns out it was the same guy, and this was actually his THIRD visit within two months for the same thing. He was about to allow himself to be subjected to an angiogram for the third time.
Of course, once I let the cardiologist know what was going on, the cath was cancelled, because his two previous exams had been negative.
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Patient - I want my Dilaudid NOW. So I go get the Dilaudid, diluted and push it according to policy (2-5 minutes). Patient states "Why are you pushing it so slow?" And I explain to her the safety risks. She says "Well if you're going to push it so slow, I don't want it from you. I want that other nurse who pushes it fast." I leave the room, waste the med, and immediately page the MD. No more Dillys for you. This has happened to me COUNTLESS times.
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We had a regular that we wouldn't give narcs to for his "complaint of the day", he was DC'd from triage and then he walked over to our 2 story stair well and jumped! Bilat Tib/Fib fx's, said, "Now you will give me pain meds!"
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Had a woman come in with her friend for chronic knee pain, goes on to state a WHOLE list of allergies, suprise supries NSAIDS and Toradol first on the list. Gets a couple percocet and discharge later. Next day her friend comes in with her and her friend has "knee pain" same list of allergies same issues, same doc and me. They now know he isnt going to give our narcs though they stop in reguraly to see who is on. =( This is the one thing that kind of gets me down and out about ER nursing.
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Had a woman come in for "seizures". She had a long list of meds including po morphine. On her allergies, morphine was listed. When I asked her about it, she told me she was allergic to IV morphine and had to have dilaudid instead. She then told me she was due for her pain meds and ativan and needed them immediately. I explained that she would have to wait to be seen by the MD prior to getting any meds. A few minutes later, she proceeded to have a "seizure". Another nurse and I went in and did the Oklahoma seizure test on her, which she passed with flying colors. To do the Oklahoma seizure test, have two nurses at the bedside, on next to the patient and the other at the foot of the bed. The nurse at the side of the bed asks the other nurse how to perform the test. The nurse at the foot of the bed explains (out loud) to rub the inside of the left foot (all while actually performing said task) and the right arm will twitch. Yep, my patient's right arm definitely started twitching when her left foot was rubbed. We were laughing so hard, we had to leave the room. Consequently, she received no meds during her stay.
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And some more
http://docbastard.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-f-word.html
http://authenticmedicine.com/how-to-spot-a-narc-seeker/
http://www.medicalisland.net/guest-posts/professional-drug-seekers-exposed-by-former-addict
Now, you may read all this and think "so what"- but the stakes for doctors in these cases are huge. They can lose their DEA certification to prescribe meds (and as a result be out to work), be hassled by the DEA, and even end up in jail if they prescribe to too many fakers and seekers. these guys are not playing a harmless cat and mouse game to get a fix, buy toying with the livelihood and careers of the people they are trying to fool.
It sucks, because they make life not only hard for the doctors, but for all those who legitimately need meds.
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One of the real problems our community has is an epidemic drug use especially opitates. The DEA
jwirr
Aug 2015
#54
Yes over the years I have witnessed much of what you talk about. And in all races. Addiction is a
jwirr
Aug 2015
#62
I am not lobbying for the DEA. I am working for the tribe. We are trying to find any way we can to
jwirr
Aug 2015
#66
I know that - my SIL was badly hurt when he was in the army in Turkey years ago and they
jwirr
Aug 2015
#91
guess that makes it ok to force people to live in pain. are you going to
TheFrenchRazor
Aug 2015
#100
And are you going to pay for the funerals our here this year? I am not lobbying regarding ERs
jwirr
Aug 2015
#112
agree - I didn't see anything there, that specifically mapped the accusations to race
HFRN
Aug 2015
#4
"Because we were black, the meeting was surrounded by security guards, in case we 'acted up.'"
KamaAina
Aug 2015
#5
'Because we were black, the meeting was surrounded by security guards, in case we 'acted up''
HFRN
Aug 2015
#6
You then believe it's standard to surround guests invited to a hospital meeting with guards?
LanternWaste
Aug 2015
#14
Not for this white person -- I was denied needed prescription drugs for the same reason
whathehell
Aug 2015
#56
Danielle Watts got caught having public sex and tried to make it about race.
Comrade Grumpy
Aug 2015
#33
That is very true especially if you go to ER. At our own clinic that is not true of course. In fact
jwirr
Aug 2015
#58
It could have been too that security guards were called because the family was agitated & demanding...
Journeyman
Aug 2015
#7
Or it could have been the hospital stereotyped the family and now can't play CYA fast enough.
Rex
Aug 2015
#10
I've always wondered what it would be like, for a white and a black person to trade places for a day
HFRN
Aug 2015
#22
I'm saying the writed stated it as a fact, yet only presented an account that supported a suspicion
HFRN
Aug 2015
#25
I was prescribed narcotics for the pain resulting from bursitis even before X-rays were taken.
LanternWaste
Aug 2015
#19
I have a friend who went to the ER with a slipped disc in horrible pain. All they did was read him
RKP5637
Aug 2015
#105
Drug seeker? Is that like a drug user? Sounds like the doc is a fucking moran that listens to Rush.
Rex
Aug 2015
#3
One of my sister-in-laws is regularly denied medical assistance because she only wants drugs. . .
Journeyman
Aug 2015
#9
That's where I'm at, too. Legalize them all, even though it means we will lose some
Nay
Aug 2015
#108
NO, ER docs do NOT do that to everyone. They see and treat real pain all day long. Pain
Hortensis
Aug 2015
#28
I'm so sorry, Deafskeptic. Your suffering reminds me of Keith Obermann's awakening when his father
Hortensis
Aug 2015
#68
I can't get percocet for a herniated disc at C6-C7 anymore. Turns out that's OK. THe next time
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#44
Percocet worked well for me too. Now we have doctors and even states requiring drug tests
TheKentuckian
Aug 2015
#128
I know the feeling. Was accused of being on meth by an ER doc because I had bad teeth
Skeeter Barnes
Aug 2015
#47
That is appalling -- I hope she can successfully sue the doctor and/or the hospital.
whathehell
Aug 2015
#55
I don't think that is the most statistically likely explanations at all but unless you have valid
Live and Learn
Aug 2015
#99
And those who have fabricated a story out of whole cloth about a screaming drug addict.
JTFrog
Aug 2015
#73
For those who don't get why ER docs are jaded and suspect of patients looking for pain meds.
Lee-Lee
Aug 2015
#78
Addiction is a disease too. Doctors should treat the addiction if one is actually found, not
Live and Learn
Aug 2015
#86