Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Cliff Arnebeck

(305 posts)
20. Serious data on the theft of the 2004 election-popular and electoral college vote
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 06:50 AM
Aug 2015

2004 was done professionally -- both the crime and its cover-up and both the Electoral College vote and the popular vote. Its architect was Karl Rove, this time working covertly out of the White House.

Exit polls -- the international gold standard for detecting election fraud -- indicated shifting of votes from Kerry to Bush in both swing states necessary to "win" their electoral college votes and the blue state of California where it dramatically affected the reported national popular vote count but not California's electoral college vote. The U.S. Exit poll discrepancy as greater than in the 2004 Ukrainian election which the U.S. Government was calling fraudulent. See Steve Freeman's book and Robert Kennedy, Jr.'s Rolling Stone and Common Dreams article on the 2004 election. Kennedy was able to get Lou Harris to review the election. Harris described it as obviously stolen and the dirtiest election ever.

The electronic programming was coordinated out of SmarTech in Chattanooga, TN.

There is a long thread on this, starting with Rove's fixing the FBI criminal investigation of this by transferring his protege Stanley Borgia to take over as SAC for Cincinnati, Ohio at: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022560634
The "winning" margin in Ohio was achieved by switching the votes in the Ohio Republican counties surrounding Cincinnati: Butler, Clermont, and Warren. This is documented in Robert Kennedy's June 2006 article, Bob Fitrakis' book on What Happened in Ohio and Richard Hayes Phillips' book Witness to a Crime. Phillips' book includes a CD of digital photographs of actual Ohio ballots.




Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

We thought Bush 2 would be easy. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #1
Two stolen elections! Cliff Arnebeck Aug 2015 #2
I'm sorry, 2004 was not stolen. No serious data suggests it. ericson00 Aug 2015 #4
Serious data on the theft of the 2004 election-popular and electoral college vote Cliff Arnebeck Aug 2015 #20
Have we forgotten the Ohio recount? KansDem Aug 2015 #27
sorry, but if that were a reputable news source, ericson00 Aug 2015 #33
++++++++++++++++++nt newfie11 Aug 2015 #19
Idiocracy is not just a movie.... giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #3
On an issue basis, I think so. But.... Populist_Prole Aug 2015 #5
It doesn't help that we have the third term curse yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #6
Hillary Clinton will do the job very well ericson00 Aug 2015 #11
Latest Hillary (62%) vs Trump(38%) in head to head poll Midnight Writer Aug 2015 #7
I think that poll with Hillary vs. Jeb was MoE ericson00 Aug 2015 #10
30% of the republican party can't win anything. Egnever Aug 2015 #8
yea but if they all unite, which I think Trump might be able to do ericson00 Aug 2015 #9
I doubt it. Adrahil Aug 2015 #22
He is not going to get the nomination oberliner Aug 2015 #12
A front running sideshow defying the Kochs, the media ericson00 Aug 2015 #16
Yes, just like Herman Cain oberliner Aug 2015 #17
Trump has been frontrunner for much longer than Herman Cain ericson00 Aug 2015 #30
You wrongly assume he's ever been taken seriously by the general public Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 #13
in 1979 Reagan was a national punchline and was getting cremated in polls ericson00 Aug 2015 #14
Reagan was the odds-on favorite for the Republican nomination from day one oberliner Aug 2015 #18
Reagan wasa two term governor... Adrahil Aug 2015 #23
No. He could have 2 or 3 billion to spend, and they've stolen elections before. pnwmom Aug 2015 #15
Trump can win. Even Kim Kardashian would be able to win. Oneironaut Aug 2015 #21
i remember very well an outsponken DUer proclaim that there was "no way a Dem can lose to Rand Paul" DrDan Aug 2015 #24
I think... sendero Aug 2015 #25
you said it precisely. His gift is that by not being a career pol, he can get away ericson00 Aug 2015 #31
Yes, exactly what you said. If Bush v Gore and Kerry didn't teach us anything, MH1 Aug 2015 #36
Reagan won. Vinca Aug 2015 #26
Trump is a blowhard who would get JoePhilly Aug 2015 #28
if he did get the nod, would the establishment GOP go along, or abandon him like Goldwater? ericson00 Aug 2015 #34
He won't get the nod. He's already asking for money. JoePhilly Aug 2015 #35
Yes. nt Herman4747 Aug 2015 #29
"this guy is clearly the best political genius since Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan" jazzimov Aug 2015 #32
If he can get the nomination NobodyHere Aug 2015 #37
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Would Donald Trump really...»Reply #20