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whathehell

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101. I am using the more commonly used definition, because I, like most here,

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 08:46 AM

Aug 2015

it seems, believe it's more applicable to the situation.

The usage you prefer -- a system where being treated fairly equates to being "privileged",

implies that white people have something they don't deserve, something that should be taken away from them.

Okay, let's say we do that...We stop treating white people fairly...What is the result?

Obviously, the result is an entire nation of unfairly treated people. Is that what we want?

I don't think you do, and I know I don't. I want the opposite: A nation in which EVERYONE is treated fairly,

In that situation, which is what I think most of us want, the word "privilege" has no meaning.

Have a nice day.

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the evolution of a charge: from white privilege to white supremacist [View all] cali Aug 2015 OP

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That can only benefit the GOP N/T leveymg Aug 2015 #100

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IMHO, this is a helpful discussion... (w/edits) OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #2

thanks for your thoughtful post. cali Aug 2015 #4

I think she was saying that Seattle is full of "liberal white supremacists" gollygee Aug 2015 #5

she used a phrase that has actual meaning and associations. cali Aug 2015 #7

Her message was a pointed barb at all of us Generic Other Aug 2015 #87

I agree, generally, but I think people are much more racist than they believe they are. alarimer Aug 2015 #11

An aha moment!!! OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #13

I moved from a place where the schools were awful. jeff47 Aug 2015 #47

I couldn't agree more... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #49

But how much of that is about poverty and not about race? starroute Aug 2015 #29

I think urgency is the point here... (w/edit) OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #44

But can there be racial justice in a fundamentally oppressive system? starroute Aug 2015 #71

Hate is part of the equation and that isn't going to change onecaliberal Aug 2015 #102

People who say they are for justice, it's good to know how they mean that. mmonk Aug 2015 #12

Man.. your feelings are REALLY hurt. Adrahil Aug 2015 #14

no, they're not really hurt. I do find this intellectually interesting from a sociological perspect cali Aug 2015 #16

That last paragraph can't be stated enough, and thank you for writing it. NuclearDem Aug 2015 #17

One small step away from calling everyone who disagrees "Nazis" Democat Aug 2015 #18

It's an attempt to beat down opposition Hydra Aug 2015 #20

Many DUers have long recognized the "white privilege" meme as divisive, unproductive, Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #22

I don't have a problem with the former. it's factual cali Aug 2015 #23

There's a reason that President Obama has never once used the phrase Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #24

I think he doesn't use the term 'white privilege', ronnie624 Aug 2015 #28

Seems like you are claiming that the majority of white people are racists. Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #30

Most people harbor inherent racial biases. ronnie624 Aug 2015 #33

The president is bi-racial whathehell Aug 2015 #34

Therefore all white people in the US are truly progressive on race relations, ronnie624 Aug 2015 #38

No, and all white people aren't "privileged" either. whathehell Aug 2015 #40

People carry their (well established) subconscious biases everywhere, ronnie624 Aug 2015 #48

Yes, and that's true of all people, whathehell Aug 2015 #57

All white people in our culture ARE privileged by the color of their skin. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #50

No they're not. Read post #31 for the explanation. whathehell Aug 2015 #74

Yes, we are. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #83

LOL..You may be, I'm not, and please, did you really use WikiPedia as whathehell Aug 2015 #84

If you're white, then yes you are. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #89

No, and I suggest you find someone who likes playing "Yes you are"/No I'm not" all day. I do not. whathehell Aug 2015 #91

You do realize that all meanings of a word in a dictionary entry are valid, right? Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #97

I am using the more commonly used definition, because I, like most here, whathehell Aug 2015 #101

There is an inheirent privilege to race. Race is the second assumption marker at first sight. haele Aug 2015 #56

First of all, you are speaking only of America, whathehell Aug 2015 #58

Understood, and I had thought to add that. But this is a USA problem. haele Aug 2015 #62

The problem is not limited to the USA whathehell Aug 2015 #75

I agree. I grew up in a poor multiracial neighborhood. avaistheone1 Aug 2015 #88

Thank you. It is a misguided term whathehell Aug 2015 #92

I grew up in a poor nearly all white neighborhood. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #98

she didn't. he had a scholarship cali Aug 2015 #41

That was for his higher education, whathehell Aug 2015 #60

It's not factual. It makes biased treatment the "norm", and fair treatment a "privilege" whathehell Aug 2015 #31

Exactly. Being treated courteously and respectfully by a cop should not be considered a "privilege", Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #32

Yes, of course. whathehell Aug 2015 #35

Exactly so. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2015 #43

If white privilege is a meme or racially charged is beside the point. mmonk Aug 2015 #36

Again, there's no 'privilige' in not being searched without probable cause.. whathehell Aug 2015 #39

Of which fair treatment you enjoy while others do not due to skin pigmentation. mmonk Aug 2015 #46

To the extent, that it isn't eroded, if not fully cancelled out, by the construction of my body.. whathehell Aug 2015 #59

Are you white or taken as such? mmonk Aug 2015 #70

Apparently you didn't read my post whathehell Aug 2015 #73

LOL/ I've gone dizzy trying to find it with so many people responding in this thread. mmonk Aug 2015 #104

Gotcha.. whathehell Aug 2015 #105

+1 Waiting For Everyman Aug 2015 #51

once you accept that you must have guilt because of your skin color HFRN Aug 2015 #26

For the vast majority of people engaged in this issue... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #37

well, we did have an African American AG, but he left for a cushy Wall Street job HFRN Aug 2015 #42

Not sure what that has to do with your comment re: white guilt, but okay. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #45

I have no guilt ibegurpard Aug 2015 #77

This isn't about guilt. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #80

sorry i didnt get your permission to feel that way HFRN Aug 2015 #81

Sorry you're too in your feelings to hear people. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #82

Maybe, but others would say the same of you and those agreeing with you.. whathehell Aug 2015 #85

'I'd hate to be that limited. ' HFRN Aug 2015 #90

Nope. It's about protecting the economic Status Quo by electing an Oligarch. Romulox Aug 2015 #86

*Yawn* Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #94

Like I said...yours has been a HUGE unmasking. Yawn indeed. Romulox Aug 2015 #95

it's am interesting sociological phenemon. but I think it's fascinating what people project onto cali Aug 2015 #93