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OneGrassRoot

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2. So you close your mind and heart and dismiss the entire message?

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:01 PM

Aug 2015

An entire movement and aspect of desperately needed transformation in this country?

If people don't word things perfectly -- as no doubt I did not -- is the entire message and point moot?

If people are furious and frightened -- as many DUers have been over the years when speaking of poverty and war and surveillance and the other issues that infuriate and frighten us -- and express themselves in a way that isn't ideal for every personality type, is that a reason to dismiss the message, or messenger for that matter?

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I find that it's best to use blanket statements and broad brush painting when notadmblnd Aug 2015 #1

So you close your mind and heart and dismiss the entire message? OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #2

Their message? notadmblnd Aug 2015 #12

Are you referring to #BlackLivesMatter or that Outside Agitators 206? OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #14

I can not support those who adopt the rhetoric of hate groups notadmblnd Aug 2015 #20

Don't bother ... He/she decided to resist when they stopped reading ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #38

you know absolutely nothing about me notadmblnd Aug 2015 #64

I know you didn't read the OP ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #66

I do not live to impress you nor anyone else. notadmblnd Aug 2015 #68

Well your life's mission is/has been accomplished. Good evening. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #69

Somethig I've said must have touched a nerve notadmblnd Aug 2015 #70

Yeah. Okay. Vengeance ... LOL. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #71

LOL tavalon Aug 2015 #79

1SBM sheshe2 Aug 2015 #80

In my opinion, his unquestioning support and his insulting dismissal of those who disagree with notadmblnd Aug 2015 #82

Apparently, to some a level playing field equals ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #95

It's the finger-pointing that separates people. POC have very legitimate reasons to complain, JDPriestly Aug 2015 #117

On acting up... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #119

YIKES!!! ChiciB1 Aug 2015 #114

Agreed. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #3

Good point. ananda Aug 2015 #9

+1 Prism Aug 2015 #19

Well said. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #84

+1 nt artislife Aug 2015 #147

Some of the threads look like pihrana attacks, lol GitRDun Aug 2015 #4

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You assume all of the critiques are in good faith. Maedhros Aug 2015 #5

No, I don't. I'm actually careful to use "many" in my posts... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #7

You proceed from a false assumption. Maedhros Aug 2015 #60

I agree with you here... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #85

You mention LGBT so it has to be mentioned that disruptive activism by LGBT activists has always Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #6

Oh no, I vividly remember... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #8

But here is what is burning me. Some of those who were most harsh toward the tactics and the Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #13

We have a whole lotta history between the various groups... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #18

The only acceptable dialogue is an acknowledgement and an apology Prism Aug 2015 #21

That is it exactly. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #25

I was one that didn't particularly have a problem with President Obama inviting ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #41

I appreciate this Prism Aug 2015 #44

However, there are a couple among the DU:LGBT ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #55

That's all anyone can do Prism Aug 2015 #75

They will never do this, ever. sibelian Aug 2015 #45

I hear you... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #86

Good post malaise Aug 2015 #10

I know you wouldn't have cared or noticed... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #133

I think defensiveness explains alot. mmonk Aug 2015 #11

That's what makes me so sad... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #87

Agreed, let's stand in solidarity. retrowire Aug 2015 #15

I'm completely behind the Black Lives Matter movement. cwydro Aug 2015 #16

I tend to take things personally hfojvt Aug 2015 #17

The consequences of that period are yet still very relevant, still very real and still very absolute LanternWaste Aug 2015 #22

We do a disservice to the cause of justice by intimating that bias and discrimination are immutable notadmblnd Aug 2015 #27

No one has claimed that bias and discrimination are immutable. F4lconF16 Aug 2015 #34

But one can not simply point out the guilt of one set of contributors notadmblnd Aug 2015 #43

I will do so. F4lconF16 Aug 2015 #46

When she mouths slogans such as "Justice or else" or "by any means necessary" I think she does. notadmblnd Aug 2015 #54

I can't and won't support a violent revolution. F4lconF16 Aug 2015 #61

That is where you are wrong. It was not being ignored notadmblnd Aug 2015 #62

Have you read "The New Jim Crow" by Michelle Alexandria? F4lconF16 Aug 2015 #65

Thank you for trying to understand my views. notadmblnd Aug 2015 #67

That is how I felt about it. Like my entire life had just be erased. And jwirr Aug 2015 #42

You know, I was accused of not reading the OP and insulted by another poster notadmblnd Aug 2015 #81

Perhaps you can help me, notadmblnd... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #88

What can I help you with? notadmblnd Aug 2015 #136

I just re-read your post... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #137

No- I do not experience it from POC in the outside world notadmblnd Aug 2015 #138

And I suspect there are many like us. My SILs, grand children and great jwirr Aug 2015 #108

If you see a link to the speech... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #109

I think maybe I can clarify something? F4lconF16 Aug 2015 #26

great post Kali Aug 2015 #30

A reasoned response. Skidmore Aug 2015 #32

Beautiful. Thank you so much. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #89

no, actially it is not hfojvt Aug 2015 #115

Certainly things have changed... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #135

is it such a terrible thing hfojvt Aug 2015 #145

I'm gonna respond in real time as I read, without much thought... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #146

It's so true tavalon Aug 2015 #140

I highly recommend reading Joy DeGruy's book: "Posttraumatic Slave Syndrome" OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #90

i am currently on page 394 hfojvt Aug 2015 #118

Thank you for saying this; I would gladly cosign this post. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #23

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"I'm reading the same things you are, I'm white, and I'm not offended" Martin Eden Aug 2015 #24

I'm longing for harmony, not solidarity or unity. OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #92

I think some like to be offended and outraged at the rest of us. Rex Aug 2015 #28

It was easy to take it personal. In that audience in Seattle were people jwirr Aug 2015 #50

Hi, jwirr... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #93

I think that there personality does play a significant role in what is jwirr Aug 2015 #110

Do you have a link to that speech? OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #111

It is on the front page. I do not know who to link an issue. Too old. jwirr Aug 2015 #112

There is for sure a lot of paranoia with some- everything is a CT or a meme..... bettyellen Aug 2015 #123

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k and r Kali Aug 2015 #31

Listen. OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #125

Excellent post. K and R. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2015 #33

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Please forgive me for disappearing...family crisis OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #35

I hope everything is ok. mmonk Aug 2015 #36

Thanks for this OP. Hope all is well with your family. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #39

**vibes** Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #72

Thank you... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #94

You said: bvar22 Aug 2015 #37

Here is my perspective... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #96

KnR OneGrassRoot Hekate Aug 2015 #40

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"...feeling personally attacked and maligned every time a critique of White America is shared." Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #47

Truth: #BLM's tactics are working brilliantly. If that makes you uncomfortable,good! Kip Humphrey Aug 2015 #48

+ infinity etherealtruth Aug 2015 #51

OGR, just wonderful to have you back Sienna86 Aug 2015 #49

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I am glad you made this attempt, OGR. murielm99 Aug 2015 #52

I sure hope so... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #100

I am going to work on one thing during the Primary Season Trajan Aug 2015 #53

I'm sorry but tblue Aug 2015 #58

You effin ROCK! Trajan Aug 2015 #59

Cosigned, sealed, delivered. stillwaiting Aug 2015 #56

I am with you. OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #101

Does BLM want political allies? Deny and Shred Aug 2015 #57

They claim to not want allies and pretty much think we're all part of the problem Hydra Aug 2015 #76

+1,000,000. My sentiments exactly. Thank you. Nay Aug 2015 #98

I realize this specific interaction likely feels like a broken record... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #102

I appreciate the thread, and your response Deny and Shred Aug 2015 #139

I can't really gauge what the opinions are... (w/edit) OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #144

I totally get that Blacks are enraged about unarmed AAs getting murdered by racist police 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #63

That's funny. That's what I just did. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #73

Absolutely, please do. :) n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #104

Cool. PM on the way. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #113

I saw the taking of the microphone, the wild insults, the refusal to allow Sanders to speak, ... Babel_17 Aug 2015 #74

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I am a person of color. WDIM Aug 2015 #77

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Beautiful. Well written. bvar22 Aug 2015 #129

Even if you were in the audience in Seattle, tavalon Aug 2015 #78

What you said. OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #106

We're listening. But we also have the right to speak back. Maedhros Aug 2015 #130

I agree...however... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #131

"Why are you taking everything so personally, in a way that is preventing useful dialogue?" Democat Aug 2015 #83

Perhaps. OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #107

OP Titles DustyJoe Aug 2015 #103

Are you saying... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #127

Correct DustyJoe Aug 2015 #141

Folks who want "useful dialogue" should probably avoid phrases like "white supremacist liberals" Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #116

The language around the subject of racial injustice is charged... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #120

Excellent OP... Spazito Aug 2015 #122

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It's great to see you back posting as well! Spazito Aug 2015 #134

This is how I try to think. Butterbean Aug 2015 #142

That's it. That's it right there. OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #143