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Bluenorthwest

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6. You mention LGBT so it has to be mentioned that disruptive activism by LGBT activists has always

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:15 PM

Aug 2015

been harshly criticized on DU, by straight people who seemed utterly incensed in OP after OP that any LGBT person dared to speak for themselves. DU straights have never hesitated to preach and lecture at LGBT posters here as to what we do wrong in our activism, how much it upsets them, how terrible it is to heckle those who support you even if that support is imperfect, we have been instructed as to time, and place and decorum and no one ever thought to apologize, not even now when many of those same lecturing privilege merchants are suddenly very supportive of disruptive activism and unable to understand how anyone could be upset by it.

I could post links from various DUers ranting against those awful gay disruptive activists if you'd like. It's a hell of a thing to look at, considering. We were pure evil for interrupting good Democrats, despicable, selfish and evil. Want to review?

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I'm going to drop this here... [View all] OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 OP

I find that it's best to use blanket statements and broad brush painting when notadmblnd Aug 2015 #1

So you close your mind and heart and dismiss the entire message? OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #2

Their message? notadmblnd Aug 2015 #12

Are you referring to #BlackLivesMatter or that Outside Agitators 206? OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #14

I can not support those who adopt the rhetoric of hate groups notadmblnd Aug 2015 #20

Don't bother ... He/she decided to resist when they stopped reading ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #38

you know absolutely nothing about me notadmblnd Aug 2015 #64

I know you didn't read the OP ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #66

I do not live to impress you nor anyone else. notadmblnd Aug 2015 #68

Well your life's mission is/has been accomplished. Good evening. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #69

Somethig I've said must have touched a nerve notadmblnd Aug 2015 #70

Yeah. Okay. Vengeance ... LOL. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #71

LOL tavalon Aug 2015 #79

1SBM sheshe2 Aug 2015 #80

In my opinion, his unquestioning support and his insulting dismissal of those who disagree with notadmblnd Aug 2015 #82

Apparently, to some a level playing field equals ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #95

It's the finger-pointing that separates people. POC have very legitimate reasons to complain, JDPriestly Aug 2015 #117

On acting up... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #119

YIKES!!! ChiciB1 Aug 2015 #114

Agreed. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #3

Good point. ananda Aug 2015 #9

+1 Prism Aug 2015 #19

Well said. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #84

+1 nt artislife Aug 2015 #147

Some of the threads look like pihrana attacks, lol GitRDun Aug 2015 #4

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You assume all of the critiques are in good faith. Maedhros Aug 2015 #5

No, I don't. I'm actually careful to use "many" in my posts... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #7

You proceed from a false assumption. Maedhros Aug 2015 #60

I agree with you here... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #85

You mention LGBT so it has to be mentioned that disruptive activism by LGBT activists has always Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #6

Oh no, I vividly remember... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #8

But here is what is burning me. Some of those who were most harsh toward the tactics and the Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #13

We have a whole lotta history between the various groups... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #18

The only acceptable dialogue is an acknowledgement and an apology Prism Aug 2015 #21

That is it exactly. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #25

I was one that didn't particularly have a problem with President Obama inviting ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #41

I appreciate this Prism Aug 2015 #44

However, there are a couple among the DU:LGBT ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #55

That's all anyone can do Prism Aug 2015 #75

They will never do this, ever. sibelian Aug 2015 #45

I hear you... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #86

Good post malaise Aug 2015 #10

I know you wouldn't have cared or noticed... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #133

I think defensiveness explains alot. mmonk Aug 2015 #11

That's what makes me so sad... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #87

Agreed, let's stand in solidarity. retrowire Aug 2015 #15

I'm completely behind the Black Lives Matter movement. cwydro Aug 2015 #16

I tend to take things personally hfojvt Aug 2015 #17

The consequences of that period are yet still very relevant, still very real and still very absolute LanternWaste Aug 2015 #22

We do a disservice to the cause of justice by intimating that bias and discrimination are immutable notadmblnd Aug 2015 #27

No one has claimed that bias and discrimination are immutable. F4lconF16 Aug 2015 #34

But one can not simply point out the guilt of one set of contributors notadmblnd Aug 2015 #43

I will do so. F4lconF16 Aug 2015 #46

When she mouths slogans such as "Justice or else" or "by any means necessary" I think she does. notadmblnd Aug 2015 #54

I can't and won't support a violent revolution. F4lconF16 Aug 2015 #61

That is where you are wrong. It was not being ignored notadmblnd Aug 2015 #62

Have you read "The New Jim Crow" by Michelle Alexandria? F4lconF16 Aug 2015 #65

Thank you for trying to understand my views. notadmblnd Aug 2015 #67

That is how I felt about it. Like my entire life had just be erased. And jwirr Aug 2015 #42

You know, I was accused of not reading the OP and insulted by another poster notadmblnd Aug 2015 #81

Perhaps you can help me, notadmblnd... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #88

What can I help you with? notadmblnd Aug 2015 #136

I just re-read your post... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #137

No- I do not experience it from POC in the outside world notadmblnd Aug 2015 #138

And I suspect there are many like us. My SILs, grand children and great jwirr Aug 2015 #108

If you see a link to the speech... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #109

I think maybe I can clarify something? F4lconF16 Aug 2015 #26

great post Kali Aug 2015 #30

A reasoned response. Skidmore Aug 2015 #32

Beautiful. Thank you so much. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #89

no, actially it is not hfojvt Aug 2015 #115

Certainly things have changed... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #135

is it such a terrible thing hfojvt Aug 2015 #145

I'm gonna respond in real time as I read, without much thought... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #146

It's so true tavalon Aug 2015 #140

I highly recommend reading Joy DeGruy's book: "Posttraumatic Slave Syndrome" OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #90

i am currently on page 394 hfojvt Aug 2015 #118

Thank you for saying this; I would gladly cosign this post. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #23

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"I'm reading the same things you are, I'm white, and I'm not offended" Martin Eden Aug 2015 #24

I'm longing for harmony, not solidarity or unity. OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #92

I think some like to be offended and outraged at the rest of us. Rex Aug 2015 #28

It was easy to take it personal. In that audience in Seattle were people jwirr Aug 2015 #50

Hi, jwirr... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #93

I think that there personality does play a significant role in what is jwirr Aug 2015 #110

Do you have a link to that speech? OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #111

It is on the front page. I do not know who to link an issue. Too old. jwirr Aug 2015 #112

There is for sure a lot of paranoia with some- everything is a CT or a meme..... bettyellen Aug 2015 #123

. Iggo Aug 2015 #29

k and r Kali Aug 2015 #31

Listen. OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #125

Excellent post. K and R. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2015 #33

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Please forgive me for disappearing...family crisis OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #35

I hope everything is ok. mmonk Aug 2015 #36

Thanks for this OP. Hope all is well with your family. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #39

**vibes** Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #72

Thank you... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #94

You said: bvar22 Aug 2015 #37

Here is my perspective... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #96

KnR OneGrassRoot Hekate Aug 2015 #40

... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #97

"...feeling personally attacked and maligned every time a critique of White America is shared." Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #47

Truth: #BLM's tactics are working brilliantly. If that makes you uncomfortable,good! Kip Humphrey Aug 2015 #48

+ infinity etherealtruth Aug 2015 #51

OGR, just wonderful to have you back Sienna86 Aug 2015 #49

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I am glad you made this attempt, OGR. murielm99 Aug 2015 #52

I sure hope so... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #100

I am going to work on one thing during the Primary Season Trajan Aug 2015 #53

I'm sorry but tblue Aug 2015 #58

You effin ROCK! Trajan Aug 2015 #59

Cosigned, sealed, delivered. stillwaiting Aug 2015 #56

I am with you. OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #101

Does BLM want political allies? Deny and Shred Aug 2015 #57

They claim to not want allies and pretty much think we're all part of the problem Hydra Aug 2015 #76

+1,000,000. My sentiments exactly. Thank you. Nay Aug 2015 #98

I realize this specific interaction likely feels like a broken record... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #102

I appreciate the thread, and your response Deny and Shred Aug 2015 #139

I can't really gauge what the opinions are... (w/edit) OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #144

I totally get that Blacks are enraged about unarmed AAs getting murdered by racist police 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #63

That's funny. That's what I just did. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #73

Absolutely, please do. :) n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #104

Cool. PM on the way. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #113

I saw the taking of the microphone, the wild insults, the refusal to allow Sanders to speak, ... Babel_17 Aug 2015 #74

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I am a person of color. WDIM Aug 2015 #77

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Beautiful. Well written. bvar22 Aug 2015 #129

Even if you were in the audience in Seattle, tavalon Aug 2015 #78

What you said. OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #106

We're listening. But we also have the right to speak back. Maedhros Aug 2015 #130

I agree...however... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #131

"Why are you taking everything so personally, in a way that is preventing useful dialogue?" Democat Aug 2015 #83

Perhaps. OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #107

OP Titles DustyJoe Aug 2015 #103

Are you saying... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #127

Correct DustyJoe Aug 2015 #141

Folks who want "useful dialogue" should probably avoid phrases like "white supremacist liberals" Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #116

The language around the subject of racial injustice is charged... OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #120

Excellent OP... Spazito Aug 2015 #122

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It's great to see you back posting as well! Spazito Aug 2015 #134

This is how I try to think. Butterbean Aug 2015 #142

That's it. That's it right there. OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #143