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In reply to the discussion: Don't you ever say 'black on black crime' again [View all]Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)95. Point taken, but some of these numbers are obscenely misleading - could in fact be classified as
nonsense. Just as an example, let's say there are 4 times as many whites as blacks in the US. Then, if, say, you chose the murders of 5 white people at random, the simple percentages imply that 4 of those murders were perpetrated by another white person, while one would be perpetrated by a black person.
2/10,000ths of 1 percent (0.0002). This means that only 1 in every 500,000 white people will be murdered by a black person in a given year.
This statement is completely content free out of context. I can't even figure out what it's doing these, except to show a small decimal number. It's like when the NRA says you're more likely to be struck by a meteor than shot by an AR-whatever. So what? That doesn't excuse any of the murders with an AR.
In fact, any given black person is 2.75 times as likely to be murdered by a white person as any given white person is to be murdered by an African American.
Again, the difference in the raw numbers of blacks and whites accounts for much of this. If the interracial murder rate was "the same", there would be many more white on black murders than the reverse.
Our entire crime rate, especially the violent crime rate, is awful. Painting a distorted picture using bogus numbers adds emotion, with almost no contribution to the solution.
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What are "white on brown" or "white on red" crimestats? Now do you see how the term is racist??
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#4
You are again missing the point, or not wanting to see the point, because that some guy can figure out the stats is not the point. Try again.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#7
You feel there is not value in understanding the statistical implication of who perpetrates and who
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#44
Really? I the bar people obssess about white people stealing from white people? ...
1StrongBlackMan
Aug 2015
#40
First of all, that was not the phrase used, secondly, this faux outrage helps no one, and thirdly,
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#17
Suggesting that black people aren't as dangerous as the RW media portrays them
nomorenomore08
Aug 2015
#83
Thanks, Zappaman! Looks like my squirming mouse has no sense of humor, or honor.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#66
Not to worry, other cats will take up the chase. "Petulant".....properly used.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#91
Look at the folks on the thread who are apprently "offended".... because they like the racist phrase....
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#30
I don't know anyone who isn't racist that is terrified of being called racist...
monicaangela
Aug 2015
#147
I believe 'black on black' crime is a way to minimize and make acceptable current police practices.
jalan48
Aug 2015
#50
To compare the significance of b on b vs w on black crime I need both incidence rates
HereSince1628
Aug 2015
#52
yeah, if that phrase doesn't sound an alarm in your brain, you should really do some thinking
fbc
Aug 2015
#55
Have you ever heard anybody talk about white on white crime? Have you ever seen any white folk march
DonCoquixote
Aug 2015
#58
Right. They co-opt and distort all sorts of meaningful shit. When a shithead FOX viewer uses it
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#86
For one thing, seriously discussing "white on white crime" (in those terms) would undermine the myth
nomorenomore08
Aug 2015
#80
Point taken, but some of these numbers are obscenely misleading - could in fact be classified as
Doctor_J
Aug 2015
#95
It's more about debunking the racial fearmongering of the Right, though.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2015
#122
There's a massive difference between discussing the crime problem out of genuine concern
nomorenomore08
Aug 2015
#123
I disagree with the author of that diary on DKos. You can't restrict free speech. Period.
NYCButterfinger
Aug 2015
#118
Yes, so all of those young black male faces involved in serious crimes against people of all races
cpwm17
Aug 2015
#135
If we cant talk about black on black crime, do black lives matter only when killed by a white person
Travis_0004
Aug 2015
#146