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194. As I recall, Pres Obama didn't have a use for Van Jones. But this discussion wasn't about

Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:22 PM

Aug 2015

justifying what they did, the three protestors, this discussion was about the Swiftboating that came later. Using the protest as a means to smear Sen Sanders. The smear was not intended to advance the cause of BLM but to disparage Sen Sanders. The smear was a low blow (maybe Rovian) but that's what is expected for someone that dares challenge the billionaires.

For the record I have always liked Van Jones and understood why Obama, the conservative would fire him. I even agree with the article you posted. I support BLM. I just thought it very strange that BLM would target the most liberal candidate of all first. While H. Clinton is having $2,700 an invite, cups of tea with the 1%, Sen Sanders is standing before larger and larger audiences of the 99%. Have Clinton or any other candidate put forth a plan to solve the 200 years of racism?

I know that the billionaires don't want Sen Sanders. Do you disagree? I know that the billionaires want H. Clinton (Goldman-Sachs said as much and she is expected to raise close to $2,000,000,000 dollars from the billionaires in an attempt to buy the election).

Why would a Democrat choose the side of Goldman-Sachs and the Wall Street Gangsters?

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Thank you Thom Hartman for your perspective on the Marissa Johnson diatribe [View all] Farmbrook Aug 2015 OP

Thom is a special, amazing and honorable human being avaistheone1 Aug 2015 #1

Arguably ShrimpPoboy Aug 2015 #9

me too handmade34 Aug 2015 #17

He used to post here, but was not treated very well by some people and I guess he sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #44

He posted in this thread, as a matter of fact. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #115

I heard that segment and it was very touching.... n8dogg83 Aug 2015 #2

The reason so many are torn about it passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #10

Unpresidential??!! staggerleem Aug 2015 #24

Issues, you want to talk issues? Which issues do you disagree with Sen Sanders? XL Pipeline, rhett o rick Aug 2015 #190

I agree with Bernie on Just about everything. staggerleem Aug 2015 #201

Sorry. Not sure what happened there. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #202

You all make a major issue about something BainsBane Aug 2015 #45

Sorry Bain, but the hits on Bernie for looking weak passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #46

We are talking about the whole shit about BLM, those two protestors BainsBane Aug 2015 #80

Where were all these attacks on black people? RichVRichV Aug 2015 #71

Did you read this site this weekend? BainsBane Aug 2015 #82

You just don't get it. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #88

Thom Hartmann gets it. Cha Aug 2015 #99

White Supremacists daredtowork Aug 2015 #102

BLM knows it's a divisive term... druidity33 Aug 2015 #108

I don't think it was a plot from BLM to use the term daredtowork Aug 2015 #110

I'm not outraged. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #135

If you believe "White Supremacy" crosses that kind of line daredtowork Aug 2015 #142

I understand the history of the term quite well. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #157

I'm not trying to stop you from discussing it daredtowork Aug 2015 #158

I'm not an overly academic person RichVRichV Aug 2015 #160

I'm not saying it's ridiculous or offensive daredtowork Aug 2015 #162

How can the effects of white supremacy on Jews be RichVRichV Aug 2015 #164

Was the "pushing around Bernie" act an official BLM act, or one by individuals AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #179

I don't think this has to be seen as mutually exclusive daredtowork Aug 2015 #183

"Liberal white supremacy". At least get the 'offending" term right! Understand it rather than distorting the meaning? OK? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #124

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #133

Yes, and once you have posted a comment based on the terribly faulty knowledge of others, you have to stick to it! Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #136

I'm not your enemy. I never was. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #137

There you go "misquoting", again! ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #139

I never quoted you. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #159

I think if you read my posts ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #161

Both sides are guilty. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #163

Agree. This attempt to blame Hillary supporters for the bad behavior sufrommich Aug 2015 #113

Bernie Supporters Fell for a Gambit daredtowork Aug 2015 #85

Really? 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #132

Why would we feel the need to defend Bernie passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #177

This ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #178

and that is a problem... druidity33 Aug 2015 #193

Yes the first condemnations were of the protestors. They clearly didn't want to talk only rhett o rick Aug 2015 #191

Yeah ... Okay. I seem to recall ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #192

As I recall, Pres Obama didn't have a use for Van Jones. But this discussion wasn't about rhett o rick Aug 2015 #194

You clearly have read, neither ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #195

Get it? What is it us "liberal white supremists" aren't getting? notadmblnd Aug 2015 #3

You clearly don't Skidmore Aug 2015 #5

Well I asked for an explaination and got this notadmblnd Aug 2015 #6

She was asking that Skidmore Aug 2015 #7

and neither can others notadmblnd Aug 2015 #8

We each choose as individuals what part of her message to focus on. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #12

That is a truly awesome post ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #20

Thanks, I really mean it. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #34

I no longer think she is any of those things notadmblnd Aug 2015 #22

i am a 56 year old black woman noiretextatique Aug 2015 #33

I hear you and respect your view. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #35

Thank you, PeaceNikki, and likewise noiretextatique Aug 2015 #37

I do not think that rage should ever be rewarded. TM99 Aug 2015 #119

I just can't make it about her. The picture is bigger. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #120

Because the picture is bigger, TM99 Aug 2015 #121

It doesn't have to be. We each choose as individuals what to focus on. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #122

If only it was a personal choice. TM99 Aug 2015 #123

I have no objection to Sanders campaign integrating BLM into it. notadmblnd Aug 2015 #60

Sorry but it's hard to get past asshole when the person is throwing racial epitaphs out. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #77

Hrm, that's a shame. I can "get past asshole" because they're just words. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #116

*epithets. Marr Aug 2015 #166

Thank you. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #168

Hear Hear. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #90

Perhaps if she had used the term "white privilege" you would understand. 6000eliot Aug 2015 #184

more insults notadmblnd Aug 2015 #186

And he was responding to a Sanders supporter some of them are really turning me off bigdarryl Aug 2015 #4

He's right. Bravenak tried to explain it to DU, too. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #11

+1 JoePhilly Aug 2015 #27

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2015 #32

Yes she did. lovemydog Aug 2015 #56

+1 daredtowork Aug 2015 #84

Yes, Bravenak was explaining this all over the place.. and she wrote a letter to Thom Hartmann Cha Aug 2015 #91

+1 Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #126

I love Thom and never miss his morning show. Cleita Aug 2015 #13

I heard that today, Thom is awesome. He saved my life. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #14

K&R for you! (nt) apnu Aug 2015 #15

So What Happened with Black Lives Matter and Hillary Clinton? yuiyoshida Aug 2015 #16

Change through seeking jobs in the Hillary administration? daredtowork Aug 2015 #93

what you see is what there is. yuiyoshida Aug 2015 #118

how's the Palin button not relevant? it's hardly isolated from her other writings MisterP Aug 2015 #18

I firmly believe in protesting those who'd most help me. Deadshot Aug 2015 #19

Here's the link/rant - thanks for the kind words and let's all work to help wake up white folks... thomhartmann Aug 2015 #21

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2015 #29

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2015 #31

"let's all work to help wake up white folks..." Ahhh... if only. Number23 Aug 2015 #38

Hey you. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #47

My grandmother said the same to my mother. My mother said the same to me. Number23 Aug 2015 #55

This... giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #129

Hey you! We have been absolutely overwhelmed in the AA forum. I'm sure you've seen the carnage Number23 Aug 2015 #167

Oh I know this place has been crazy... giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #169

Oh girl, I saw that thread. That was my Laugh of the Freaking WEEK right there. I laughed my ass Number23 Aug 2015 #171

I just don't get the cluelessness, people can't really giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #173

Thanks Thom. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #41

Even if they were pure of heart, you have to admit the optics are bad for Bernie to be... aikoaiko Aug 2015 #43

Thom Hartmann also covered that daredtowork Aug 2015 #100

Thank you Thom Hartman. lovemydog Aug 2015 #48

Thank you, Thom, that was great! betsuni Aug 2015 #53

Thank you. Just what I was scrolling down to find. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #112

Well said. Thank you. Chiyo-chichi Aug 2015 #148

I was driving to the recycle center to drop off glass at the time Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #23

He also said today... SHRED Aug 2015 #25

I get the anger, the rage, the frustration, the fear expressed in every demonstration, magical thyme Aug 2015 #26

All reasonable, salient points. druidity33 Aug 2015 #176

apparently silent excoriation, because mostly all I'm hearing is magical thyme Aug 2015 #185

You articulate how I feel as well deutsey Aug 2015 #189

Oh Shit, DU is on the road to hating BLM........ too. Hartman isn't supposed to be interrupting that uponit7771 Aug 2015 #28

Sanders hired Symone Sanders, BLM activist noiretextatique Aug 2015 #39

Oh, it used to be that Bernie did not have any black people on his staff, or djean111 Aug 2015 #105

This is what Bravenak, 1strongblackman, number23, myself and many others stevenleser Aug 2015 #30

Yes indeed stevenlesser. lovemydog Aug 2015 #49

Why anyone would refuse to listen to such intelligent people who are right most of the time... betsuni Aug 2015 #58

Most of the Internet has been "getting it" which is why these people calling #BLM "thugs" and Number23 Aug 2015 #36

Why should he wade into this quagmire? noiretextatique Aug 2015 #40

Yes, this will get interesting. lovemydog Aug 2015 #52

+1 lovemydog Aug 2015 #50

Free bravenak! JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #154

LOL, I'll buy that T-shirt. nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #155

Free bravenak! lovemydog Aug 2015 #170

Now that's taking it too far the other way daredtowork Aug 2015 #65

Only a fraud would say that #BLM was full of right wingers or working for Hillary Number23 Aug 2015 #68

Now you are the one "manufacturing outrage" daredtowork Aug 2015 #70

You are not proving or pointing out anything. And it boggles my mind that not only do you consider Number23 Aug 2015 #72

Boggle away daredtowork Aug 2015 #74

Whatever you're trying to get out of this pointless exchange, I hope that you got it. Number23 Aug 2015 #76

I'm hardly the "lone hold out" daredtowork Aug 2015 #81

You are in a thread where Thom Hartmann is calling out people for attacking black people Number23 Aug 2015 #86

And so you double down on manufacturing outrage? daredtowork Aug 2015 #87

I have no idea what you're talking about and honestly, have no interest in trying to Number23 Aug 2015 #89

You know what you are doing by slapping labels on people daredtowork Aug 2015 #94

If calling this exchange dumb and pointless is "slapping a label on people" then consider that label Number23 Aug 2015 #95

If you think so. nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #97

Please don't drag my name into a discussion like this. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #125

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #138

I apologize for bringing your name into it. daredtowork Aug 2015 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #127

Sorry but he or she to blow up the blame daredtowork Aug 2015 #143

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #149

Okay I take your point. daredtowork Aug 2015 #150

Thank you ... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #151

No one "Hates" Sanders ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #134

I agree it is surreal daredtowork Aug 2015 #144

Black Lives Matter did not notify the Clinton campaign. giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #174

Could you send to some links/resources to clarify this daredtowork Aug 2015 #187

"I know you won't listen" Could not have made that more obvious if they were trying to Number23 Aug 2015 #165

That's what I think ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #175

Why did you edit out "full of shit"? George II Aug 2015 #172

DemocratFromBirth asked me to daredtowork Aug 2015 #188

Wow, Thom destroyed those arguments. joshcryer Aug 2015 #42

"What a low point for DU." Yep. Number23 Aug 2015 #51

An embarrassing low point. betsuni Aug 2015 #54

It was damn ugly. Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #128

A week that will go down in infamy. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #57

So when people see wedges being driven between groups on the left... killbotfactory Aug 2015 #59

we are not supposed to believe our lying ears Skittles Aug 2015 #61

What's the largest most reliable Democratic voting bloc? joshcryer Aug 2015 #69

ostracizing ANYONE is not a good strategy Skittles Aug 2015 #140

Well, I don't think Thom is being ratfucked. joshcryer Aug 2015 #64

+1 daredtowork Aug 2015 #67

There is a long history of dirty tricks being pulled on the left wing... killbotfactory Aug 2015 #73

Yes I think BLM has to give some leeway for this, too. daredtowork Aug 2015 #75

You can only respond to an action after the fact. joshcryer Aug 2015 #79

I'm not so sure it was daredtowork Aug 2015 #83

BLM can't hurt Bernie. joshcryer Aug 2015 #103

I agree with the breather daredtowork Aug 2015 #104

I differ to Thom. joshcryer Aug 2015 #106

That's why I asked for the Black Agenda Report quote daredtowork Aug 2015 #107

Thom is not "raising suspicions." joshcryer Aug 2015 #109

"raising suspicions" is the effect it has daredtowork Aug 2015 #111

"Bernie supporters are natural conspiracy theorists." joshcryer Aug 2015 #114

this might explain why some of his so called supporters keep comparing him to Donald Trump JI7 Aug 2015 #196

The "suspicions" are likely the trick. joshcryer Aug 2015 #78

Called out DU by name? Ouch. daredtowork Aug 2015 #62

He (or his people) posted the video in this thread: joshcryer Aug 2015 #66

Yup ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #63

Some will take this to heart.. and some will continue in their same rut.. looking for hidden Cha Aug 2015 #92

Thom was also looking for motives daredtowork Aug 2015 #96

Thom Hartmann has soul and compassion.. I will not listen to anyone whining about him. Cha Aug 2015 #98

I'm not whining about him daredtowork Aug 2015 #101

I don't disagree with Thom - especially the TBF Aug 2015 #117

Thom Hartmann has been doing Lunch with Bernie before Sanders ever entered the race Person 2713 Aug 2015 #130

My husband was a black man, whose life I attempted to ensure mattered notadmblnd Aug 2015 #180

I guess that's why I thought at first TBF Aug 2015 #181

I too am an admirer of Bravenak and I have express my admiration for her to her notadmblnd Aug 2015 #182

The answer to "Why Bernie?" is very simple, and requires no conspiracy theories eridani Aug 2015 #197

I actually found Marissa's statement on "why Bernie" TBF Aug 2015 #199

I think back to the suffragette movement & the old saying, "Well behaved women rarely make history." CrispyQ Aug 2015 #131

Ask Ida B. Wells-Barnett about those women you cite BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #146

The diff in the feminist experience wasnt' something I was aware of CrispyQ Aug 2015 #147

"Expediency" has been the rallying cry BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #153

She is still a bratty, foolish, childish person who called a Jewish man a white supremacist. phleshdef Aug 2015 #145

Not interested in Hartman anymore, He can't speak for most Dem's anymore lewebley3 Aug 2015 #152

The "killing" is not "concentrated in the red states" BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #156

Sanders is "weak"? Well excuuussse me! It wasn't his event! eridani Aug 2015 #198

Sanders not Presidential material! lewebley3 Aug 2015 #200