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Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 02:21 PM Aug 2015

Little Mini-rant on prescription painkillers... [View all]

OK, this is something that I really changed my perspective on, at least in passion, compared to several years ago.

I will admit that I have yet had the need for prescription strength opiods to manage pain for myself. I have a pinched nerve in my left shoulder, but the most I've been prescribed for that is piroxicam and/or meloxicam if I need any. Mostly I just take Naproxen and call it a day if its a bad day, but it hasn't been intolerable since my shoulder was frozen many years ago.

My perspective on opiate and other addicting prescription drugs has always been to make sure the people who take them need them, but I didn't really feel that strongly about it, one way or another.

That all changed a few years ago when my mother was diagnosed with cancer, my grandmother's cancer came back, and my fiancée’s stepfather developed cancer as well, all within a span of about 1 year. By the way, fuck cancer, it fucking sucks.

The fact is, my mother was lucky, in home hospice we were able to easily manage her pain level with just a few prescription pain killers given a few times a day, up until about the last 2 days, she was conscious and cognizant. I'm glad for that.

My grandmother was a different story, even with all the painkillers they gave her, she apparently was in a lot of pain up till the end. But, from what I was told, they also didn't hold back either. Sometimes nothing can help, wish it weren't true, but it is.

Not to make things any more tragic, but my grandmother and mother died within 3 weeks of each other, it was a rough xmas/new year/birthday.

Fast forward to that coming spring/summer and my fiancée got news that her stepfather was diagnosed with late stage pancreatic cancer. She went down there to assist her mother in caring for her stepdad(they lived out of state). However, and this is where things got really fucked up, he was a recovering addict, being both a member on NA and AA. This caused problems in that the hospice actually held back pain medication in fear he would become an addict. This was a guy who was going to be live maybe an additional month, month and a half at most. Why the fuck should anyone be concerned if he is addicted to anything? He was in a hospice care facility, and apparently both my fiancée and her mother had to practically beg them to administer to him some of the strongest pain killers available. This to me seems beyond fucked up.

Now, I don't know about you, but I figure if anyone develops a terminal condition where prospects of recovery are practically non-existent, they should be allowed all the pain management medications they wan. Fuck give them every mind altering substance they could ever desire, as long as they are as comfortable as possible. If I had a choice between being high as a kite or being in excruciating pain while dying, I prefer being high, thank you very much. I also don't want to even know my own name, like I would give a shit.

And if, by some rare happen stance, I recover from said malady, then send me to rehab when I don't need the drugs any more, there should be no shame attached to chemical or psychological addiction, its a medical condition that needs to be treated as such. I would say this holds true for chronic pain suffers as well, if, in order to function, they need strong, potentially, addicting pain killers, then give it to them, as long as they are actually in pain and can be diagnosed that way. If they are addicted, manage it as a side effect of the medications, but don't cause people to needless suffer due to some misdirected war on drugs bullshit.

Actually, here's a conundrum. if someone suffers from diagnosed, chronic pain, and the only way they can function is for them to be, for example, taking oxycontin. If it allows them to function, possibly even work, within tolerable and manageable pain levels, would them being addicted to it really matter? As long as they can take it legally, and as a result, stay productive members of society without developing destructive behaviors, where's the harm?

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The Endless War On Drugs is harmfull in a vast array of ways, this being one. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #1
My mom was in hospice about 2 and a half weeks, sorry about your mom, but we did like... Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #14
With the DEA peering over their shoulders, hospitals & doctors have to watch their @#$. Scurrilous Aug 2015 #2
Same with my broken, dislocated shoulder woodsprite Aug 2015 #77
I totally agree. The hysteria about this is more than a little fishy to me 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #3
That was me about 10 years ago CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #5
I've been very fortunate 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #8
Thanks to the War on Drugs ... CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #4
Remember the guy in NA/AA was terminal, at that point, I would say any history with any drugs... Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #7
And yet no-one in that law enforcement-fearing community gives a crap about being addicted to tobacco n2doc Aug 2015 #6
They are taxing it to oblivion, and I, for one, welcome it, was a smoker for almost 20 years... Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #9
My mom was a smoker too, and also died from cancer n2doc Aug 2015 #20
True, the key is to try to find constructive ways to treat addiction, rather than criminalizing.... Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #22
Regional Differences For Freddie Aug 2015 #10
Yes, there are some regional differences, I'm sorry for the loss of your husband, I'm glad he.. Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #12
I thought that it was impossible LiberalElite Aug 2015 #11
Chemical addiction is chemical addiction, but the point is, does it matter if you need it? Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #13
I agree with you eom LiberalElite Aug 2015 #15
That's not true. Mariana Aug 2015 #18
for me, after a difficult surgery I had pain pills during the healing of my gut and CTyankee Aug 2015 #39
For most people, it takes a long time Mariana Aug 2015 #40
Thats true for chronic pain sorefeet Aug 2015 #33
I have absolutely no problem with end of life drugs I actually asked the jwirr Aug 2015 #16
Where do chronic pain suffers fit into all of this? Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #17
Well my son in law went to a regular doctor who referred him to a jwirr Aug 2015 #19
Restricting opiates just shifts addicts to heroin. LeftyMom Aug 2015 #45
We are also working on ending or slowing down the illegal sales as well jwirr Aug 2015 #48
Good lord, are you for real? LeftyMom Aug 2015 #78
You are the one who is not for real. So according to you we just set jwirr Aug 2015 #80
Wait, you think you know more than me about living with addicts? LeftyMom Aug 2015 #87
Great. So people with chronic pain can just suffer. kcr Aug 2015 #46
Do you have a regular doctor? If s/he is any good s/he will send you to jwirr Aug 2015 #49
"The medical profession has a means of dealing with pain " DeadLetterOffice Aug 2015 #53
That is too bad. But as I am telling you I have nothing to do with the jwirr Aug 2015 #54
Here,any doctor in the state Go Vols Aug 2015 #74
But treatment centers are not included in that. That is the problem. jwirr Aug 2015 #76
In practice the DEA becomes a price support agency for the larger drug gangsters... hunter Aug 2015 #56
We on the reservation also understand who owe us. In our case things jwirr Aug 2015 #58
Addiction is a major public health problem and ought to be treated as such. hunter Aug 2015 #62
Agreed. jwirr Aug 2015 #64
I wish I could get hydracodone for my spinal arthritic pain but I can't so I take Extra STrenth CTyankee Aug 2015 #21
I hate it that you a) can't get good RX pain meds, and Seeking Serenity Aug 2015 #60
That's one reason heroin use is up 150% since 2007 madville Aug 2015 #23
Hydrocodone was moved from a Schedule III Unknown Beatle Aug 2015 #24
2200 people a year die of alcohol poisoning - i.e. overdose Mariana Aug 2015 #26
No one gives cares about alcohol? Try living on a reservation. If we had jwirr Aug 2015 #50
I want treatment to be available for all addicts. Mariana Aug 2015 #55
In my state addicts have a court hearing to determine placement. It is jwirr Aug 2015 #57
I'm glad you are doing the work that you do. Mariana Aug 2015 #59
Yeah, our country has had a really wrong attitude regarding addiction of jwirr Aug 2015 #63
Cocaine Sgent Aug 2015 #29
My Wife Takes All the Drugs You Can Get! mpgalloway Aug 2015 #25
I agree on the first point, have some mixed response on the second drmeow Aug 2015 #27
That's very interesting. I would like to hear more about it. smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #41
The readers digest condensed version drmeow Aug 2015 #43
Thank you! smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #44
Here's hoping you never need drmeow Aug 2015 #65
Thank you. Important information. In the treatment centers that use jwirr Aug 2015 #51
Another thing with methadone drmeow Aug 2015 #68
Thank you. My grandson has Hep C and that is one reason his is really jwirr Aug 2015 #69
Make sure your grandson drmeow Aug 2015 #70
Thank you. I will talk with him. He just married his new wife and I was jwirr Aug 2015 #73
See if he's had overdose training drmeow Aug 2015 #85
Thank you. That makes a lot of sense. I think one of the problems facing jwirr Aug 2015 #86
Cancer does fucking suck, Humanist! Medical Marijuana is also very effective as a pain reliever. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #28
It's residual puritanism in the American psyche. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #30
When my father was dying of cancer I was the one who asked the doctor jwirr Aug 2015 #52
Anyone who uses opioids without a prescription is labeled an abuser. Lyric Aug 2015 #31
Amen!! CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #35
Very few things get my dander up more than this. Lyric Aug 2015 #37
That's very polite for a rant. hunter Aug 2015 #38
+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #42
You hit the nail on the head. Pakhet Aug 2015 #47
This ^^ Seeking Serenity Aug 2015 #61
Have you ever tried Nuerotin for the nerve pain? Marrah_G Aug 2015 #81
I did, actually. Lyric Aug 2015 #83
Close friend in constant severe pain for 12+ years due to mesh, inoperable lostnfound Aug 2015 #32
First do no harm nor injustice sorefeet Aug 2015 #34
Pain killers are medicine for people in pain. Its really that simple. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #36
I used to take police reports for stolen pain killers a lot Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #66
I have cancer and I am recovering from major surgery. Oxy greatly improves the quality of my life. Glimmer of Hope Aug 2015 #67
+1000 Lyric Aug 2015 #84
Addiction is a horrible disease cally Aug 2015 #71
Add race to the equation and... BOOM! KamaAina Aug 2015 #72
Amen Amen and Amen KentuckyWoman Aug 2015 #75
If you are dying you should be able to do any drug you want. dilby Aug 2015 #79
You are half right TheSarcastinator Aug 2015 #82
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