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In reply to the discussion: Don't you ever say 'black on black crime' again [View all]Egnever
(21,506 posts)139. Both interesting articles
There is no question there are a lot of factors involved in the disparity in violence. Yet the disparity exists.
It sounds from the article as though the Cherry hill community solved a good portions of their problems by becoming involved in the community. Having people engaged in the streets working to stop the cycle appears to have worked for them. It is a great start and hopefully other communities will learn from it.
As far as rural VS densely populated you could look at say Chicago which is almost evenly divided as far as race with 32% black and 31% white. Yet the disparity in homicide rates is even worse than on the national scale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago
The black murder victimization rate was approximately 34 per 100,000; the Hispanic rate was 11 per 100,000, and the white rate 3 per 100,000
Nearly ten times as high when nationally it is closer to 5.
In St Luis the same thing holds true.
Of the 103 murders this year, 90 of the victims have been African-American. Ten have been white. Other races fill in the balance. Another way of looking at those numbers: If you're black in St. Louis, you're nine times more likely this year to be murdered than if you're white.*
The population of St. Louis also breaks down with 46% white and 47% black. Again the disparity in homicides is worse than the national average.
Brooklyn
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/08/nyc-murder-statistics-brooklyn-2012_n_3035372.html
Victims still were mostly black and Hispanic, a pattern that has existed for at least the past two decades. Some 60 percent of the homicide victims were black in 2012, compared to 27 percent Hispanic, 9 percent white and 4 percent Asian, according to NYPD statistics. Those killed were mostly men, accounting for 84 percent of all victims, compared to 16 percent for women.
Closer to the national average but still.
I am having trouble finding a densely populated city where this pattern does not repeat itself.
The point is there is a real problem and we have to identify it some way and address it. The Cherry hill community appears to be onto a good thing. Hopefully more cities will take notice and replicate their success. Till then what do you suggest we call this trend if not black on black crime I am open to suggestions but the problem no matter what you want to call it exists and the labeling is not the problem.
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What are "white on brown" or "white on red" crimestats? Now do you see how the term is racist??
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#4
You are again missing the point, or not wanting to see the point, because that some guy can figure out the stats is not the point. Try again.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#7
You feel there is not value in understanding the statistical implication of who perpetrates and who
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#44
Really? I the bar people obssess about white people stealing from white people? ...
1StrongBlackMan
Aug 2015
#40
First of all, that was not the phrase used, secondly, this faux outrage helps no one, and thirdly,
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#17
Suggesting that black people aren't as dangerous as the RW media portrays them
nomorenomore08
Aug 2015
#83
Thanks, Zappaman! Looks like my squirming mouse has no sense of humor, or honor.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#66
Not to worry, other cats will take up the chase. "Petulant".....properly used.
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#91
Look at the folks on the thread who are apprently "offended".... because they like the racist phrase....
Fred Sanders
Aug 2015
#30
I don't know anyone who isn't racist that is terrified of being called racist...
monicaangela
Aug 2015
#147
I believe 'black on black' crime is a way to minimize and make acceptable current police practices.
jalan48
Aug 2015
#50
To compare the significance of b on b vs w on black crime I need both incidence rates
HereSince1628
Aug 2015
#52
yeah, if that phrase doesn't sound an alarm in your brain, you should really do some thinking
fbc
Aug 2015
#55
Have you ever heard anybody talk about white on white crime? Have you ever seen any white folk march
DonCoquixote
Aug 2015
#58
Right. They co-opt and distort all sorts of meaningful shit. When a shithead FOX viewer uses it
Ed Suspicious
Aug 2015
#86
For one thing, seriously discussing "white on white crime" (in those terms) would undermine the myth
nomorenomore08
Aug 2015
#80
Point taken, but some of these numbers are obscenely misleading - could in fact be classified as
Doctor_J
Aug 2015
#95
It's more about debunking the racial fearmongering of the Right, though.
nomorenomore08
Aug 2015
#122
There's a massive difference between discussing the crime problem out of genuine concern
nomorenomore08
Aug 2015
#123
I disagree with the author of that diary on DKos. You can't restrict free speech. Period.
NYCButterfinger
Aug 2015
#118
Yes, so all of those young black male faces involved in serious crimes against people of all races
cpwm17
Aug 2015
#135
If we cant talk about black on black crime, do black lives matter only when killed by a white person
Travis_0004
Aug 2015
#146