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longship

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49. As usual, the usual same rubbish studies.

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 04:39 AM

Aug 2015

We've seen them over and over again.

But let's just take the Seralini study, which is one which I am most familiar. It has been retracted and Seralini has apparently republished it in some open journal. It is also very bad science.

Read here:
http://retractionwatch.com/2014/06/24/retracted-seralini-gmo-rat-study-republished/

And the peer review on the republished study here:
http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/06/24/scientists-react-to-republished-seralini-maize-rat-study/

And here's an article about Seralini's latest study, in which he has a big conflict of interest:
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/the-new-seralini-study/

So you cite studies from bogus journals, and one from a known journal that has been retracted and was conducted by a poor scientist with an apparent ideological bias? That is typical of ideologues who want to create a consensus out of whole cloth, one that does not exist.

Please don't waste any more time trotting out the same rejected science. It gets tiring debunking the same rubbish over and over again.

And no, I am not going to bother with your other citations. I apologize but I firmly believe it would not be worth any further effort by me.

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Yes. tecelote Aug 2015 #14

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Monsatan will be here shortly to tell you roody Aug 2015 #4

With scientific studies to show why we are idiots to want to know. tecelote Aug 2015 #5

If they've got nothing to hide, then quit hiding. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #7

Exactly. tecelote Aug 2015 #8

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I did exactly what you did when you linked me to Graham. pnwmom Aug 2015 #104

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Thanks Kali! pnwmom Aug 2015 #111

If it's food, I want to know everything that's in it whether harmful or not aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2015 #9

Why not? tecelote Aug 2015 #10

Raising awareness of GMOs . People learning what glyphosate is . Person 2713 Aug 2015 #30

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64 countries you can not take seriously Person 2713 Aug 2015 #67

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Would you eat this? Archae Aug 2015 #73

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It is a GMO. Archae Aug 2015 #76

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A label on everything GMO? Archae Aug 2015 #11

Oh! There you are. tecelote Aug 2015 #13

What am I afraid of? Archae Aug 2015 #15

Good! tecelote Aug 2015 #16

Other than it being a colossal waste of time, and paper for the stickers... Archae Aug 2015 #17

Case Closed tecelote Aug 2015 #18

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So all the other countries labeling or banning GMO s are ignorant now ? USA USA Person 2713 Aug 2015 #29

Wherever it is done... longship Aug 2015 #31

Again the logic here . All those other countries are starving ? They are not eating ? It's the glyphosate Person 2713 Aug 2015 #33

Where is your link to that study? longship Aug 2015 #35

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I guess I am not surprised. Updated! longship Aug 2015 #37

That journal is a predatory journal by a scamming company. longship Aug 2015 #41

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As usual, the usual same rubbish studies. longship Aug 2015 #49

still won't answer why over 60 countries have laws ? yes over 60 insane countries ! Person 2713 Aug 2015 #66

No matter. longship Aug 2015 #72

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FOOD ---> Petrushka Aug 2015 #42

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