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Igel

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33. Except that the modern corporation didn't really exist then.
Sun May 20, 2012, 01:05 PM
May 2012

Corporations were small unless granted a patent by the king.

(Note that "patent" has also changed its meaning a bit.)

Without something like the kind of corporation we have in the US you have two sizes of business: the first is small, perhaps family run; the second is large and state-sponsored.

The US despised the second kind. They tend to serve the interests of the state--or the state blatantly serves the interest of their business, the corporations. You wind up with all kinds of subsidies. If the state provides lots of services to the population, then the business is milked (hedge-fund style) for money; if the state's actors just benefit from the money from the business, then the business is run for the benefit of the state at the expense of the population. 1970s Britain, the USSR for most of its existence, even the PRC serve as examples of these.

The first kind of business, small and family-run, can't be a GM or a Microsoft, or even a medium-sized start-up for very long. Such businesses can exist, but they are almost always owned by a family or a small number of partners and then have to pass the wealth down, pretty much strictly in the family. And if estate taxes are large enough, they're simply liquidated or spread so thin as to be ungovernable. By the time your business is up and running on a large and efficient scale, it's time to pack it in and start over, trying to sort out who'll get the patents and equipment and try to replicate what you did. If you're very lucky, you can set up a kind of family dynasty, but the US didn't like that and most liberals consider this to be the worst kind of corporation possible.

The US corporation is a kludge. It's a way of having medium- and large-size businesses that can survive more than the last decade or two of an owner's lifespan.

When the number of people who don't have enough food and shelter and don't have work cali May 2012 #1
They should be getting ready for the collaspe instead StitchesforSnitches May 2012 #2
Did you ever learn why corporations were very rare in the US the first 100 years of its history? Selatius May 2012 #3
ahhh yes StitchesforSnitches May 2012 #4
They want obedient workers, not citizens who are capable of critical thinking. Selatius May 2012 #5
What bugs me is that they dressed up as Indians and blamed them for the act. Zalatix May 2012 #6
or blaming the black guy StitchesforSnitches May 2012 #7
Oh jeez, don't get me started on her. Zalatix May 2012 #8
Well, that's not exactly how the story went. Bluenorthwest May 2012 #21
Except that the modern corporation didn't really exist then. Igel May 2012 #33
It is never going to happen bighughdiehl May 2012 #9
Let me put it to you this way StitchesforSnitches May 2012 #11
Great insights! rrHeretic May 2012 #12
Excellent analysis! I'm convinced the masses learned little from RKP5637 May 2012 #13
There was a time. sendero May 2012 #14
Simon and Garfunkel were right bighughdiehl May 2012 #18
If your family didn't wake up until the Bush administration they were 20 years too late NNN0LHI May 2012 #22
Righteous rant & spot on. CrispyQ May 2012 #23
"someone making GWB look like FDR will be elected" dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #25
Buy Shares in Facebook! TomClash May 2012 #10
Conditions will dictate - TBF May 2012 #15
Really? bighughdiehl May 2012 #16
Maybe in the manufacturing sector - TBF May 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author piratefish08 May 2012 #17
Plan B sorefeet May 2012 #19
Taking away my deep fried Cheetos would do it! obliviously May 2012 #24
Very soon. kickysnana May 2012 #26
There will be no tipping point IDemo May 2012 #27
not gonna happen and it won't hit them where it hurts cali May 2012 #28
I know it won't happen IDemo May 2012 #31
Corporations have power because people buy stuff from them bhikkhu May 2012 #29
which is simply not going to happen. cali May 2012 #30
When people decide to stop being LAZY. Or, when we don't have cars. Believe it or not. Gregorian May 2012 #32
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