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TheBlackAdder

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8. 2 - 3 cups a day of fine grind French Roast. I do question those anti-French Press health concerns.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:00 PM
Aug 2015

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To give some back story:

My brother used to drink strong French Pressed coffee and started to have heart palpitations. He spoke to his doctor after looking up the positives and negatives of his coffee, and there supposedly are more things forced into the coffee that normal drip or perk systems. BUt, he used to drink a boatload of coffee. He's down to 2 cups a day and is fine.

Both of my brother-in-laws are into this coffee kick, where both must use a burr grinder to properly shred the beans, and one of them just bought their own roaster. He roasted coffee, something with a blueberry hint to it. I ground it at home and it came across as slightly substandard, slightly acidic, and not as smooth. Note: The deeper the roast, the less acidic the coffee is.


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Now, getting to my areas of questioning these things:

If you grind your coffee extra-fine, pulverized coffee from a burr grinder, coffee mill, or any other device still yields the same thing, coffee ground much smaller than grains of salt. Regardless of the device, ground coffee is ground coffee. So those device claims appear to be bullshit.


The use of a French Press with fine ground coffee versus a drip machine using extra-fine ground coffee yields almost the same result. Granted the pressure of the press should force a little more oils and other chemicals from the coffee, but the ground is slightly larger.


Boiled coffee seems no different that the perk machines we used. The water repeatedly traverses the grounds, instead of a single pass. I guess the water temperature and time boiled might play into things, but this all goes back to the size of the grounds. I believe boiled coffee uses the same larger grinds that perk systems use. Something that requires extra effort to extract the elements.


Seeing coffee aficionados orgasming over their coffee is an amazing sight to behold. First, true coffee drinkers must drink it black, to 'taste' the coffee. When a rank batch is served, the group turns to the most revered member to get his take on it, then most will follow. Yet, when out in the parking lot, those who agreed will mention that the stuff actually sucked. But, this level of what is good or bad borders on wine tasting lunacy. Granted, we all know what bad coffee or wine is, but the coffee should be what you enjoy, not what others try and tell you to enjoy. Look at Starbucks, pushing that vile Pikes Peak and Americanos on people at late night. Sure, there are those who will drink it, some who like it, but they lost most of their evening crowd when they change over to only offering those. When they offer them to my family, we walk out of the store and go elsewhere. We don't even bother to go to a Starbucks after 8PM, unless someone wants a frap. Now, the several Starbucks near me, that closed at 11PM, are closing early--and they seem confused why people don't go there at night anymore, while the local coffee shops maintain a clientele.


Agreeing with the article, it's really the additives in the coffee that get you. I used to need sugar and half-and-half. Now, I drink it with a little milk or black. The smell of sugar in coffee then took on a revolting smell to me. The filters catching the cafestol seems a little suspect, since perks don't use a filter. My coffee machines use metal mesh baskets, and don't use a filter.


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I use a French press, which is good... OnyxCollie Aug 2015 #1
i think the article says french press is not good 6chars Aug 2015 #46
K&R - Organic French Roast rules nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #2
French roast is almost there. Italian roast goes a bit further... Brother Buzz Aug 2015 #9
There is almost 100% chance an Italian roast is rancid taught_me_patience Aug 2015 #29
we use a french press and drink 2 cups a day at most olddots Aug 2015 #3
old fashioned filter good. french press bad... magical thyme Aug 2015 #13
Coffee to me means caffeine. Stellar Aug 2015 #4
I think it's so interesting how people have different reactions Blue_In_AK Aug 2015 #12
Geez... Stellar Aug 2015 #22
My husband is like that. Blue_In_AK Aug 2015 #39
I can drink coffee 840high Aug 2015 #49
So I'm an alcoholic, compared to you. LOL! nt Stellar Aug 2015 #55
Yup. It's water, coffee and wine for me. Coffee in the AM, wine with dinner and water CTyankee Aug 2015 #19
Now, I love my Ice water the same way I used to love my Pepsi Cola's. Stellar Aug 2015 #23
That ice/ice water function in the door of my refrigerator has proved to be the best CTyankee Aug 2015 #30
See, that's what I'm talking about. I LOVE mine too! nt Stellar Aug 2015 #53
I love the crushed ice option, too. Nice for occasional diet pepsi...hubby loves it! CTyankee Aug 2015 #56
The older I get, the more selective I am on my vices packman Aug 2015 #5
I'm afraid most people now think coffee is a 600 calorie sweet drink. Marr Aug 2015 #6
All those added sweets are for people who don't like coffee. DawgHouse Aug 2015 #33
I love coffee malaise Aug 2015 #7
I just put on a pot madokie Aug 2015 #24
2 - 3 cups a day of fine grind French Roast. I do question those anti-French Press health concerns. TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #8
I love your post malaise Aug 2015 #15
sometimes in my last cup madokie Aug 2015 #27
Tell me about Carolans liquor malaise Aug 2015 #38
Comparable to Baileys irish creme liquor madokie Aug 2015 #43
Sorry to say, but the prior post is completely inaccurate taught_me_patience Aug 2015 #31
There is no better coffee on the planet than Jamaican blue mountain malaise Aug 2015 #40
It is a misconception that you need coarse grind for a French Press, dependent on the mesh size. TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #59
Let's be honest. Anything but milk, juice, bread, fruits, nuts and vegetables is not 'real' food. randome Aug 2015 #10
Cow's milk is not real food milestogo Aug 2015 #20
Fair point. randome Aug 2015 #54
That description fits me exactly. PersonNumber503602 Aug 2015 #62
Coffee is a food group. Yessirree. Hekate Aug 2015 #36
Coffee is a tradition Runningdawg Aug 2015 #11
I had my first cup at five or six malaise Aug 2015 #42
I cut back until that British study a few years ago said coffee is nearly as hydrating as water pinboy3niner Aug 2015 #14
That picture is fantastic! No more espresso for that little guy! Hekate Aug 2015 #35
If I drunk 3-5 cups of coffee per day, I would never sleep. LisaL Aug 2015 #16
If I drank 3-5 cups a day I'd never notice. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #37
It's got my vote! struggle4progress Aug 2015 #17
I now don't have to feel bad drinking my Gevalia chocolate mocha coffee. Deadshot Aug 2015 #18
I love my Kona Coffee... yuiyoshida Aug 2015 #21
If coffee agrees with you, I say go for it. ananda Aug 2015 #25
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I stand with coffee etherealtruth Aug 2015 #28
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I stand with coffee, always have. Hekate Aug 2015 #34
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Coffee is life. PufPuf23 Aug 2015 #44
I stand at the kitchen counter, MineralMan Aug 2015 #45
I never developed a taste for coffee. I drink unsweetened ice tea NT Ex Lurker Aug 2015 #47
Read today it's good for eyesight. I would 840high Aug 2015 #48
It's more addicting than crack Reter Aug 2015 #50
Ahhhh, coffee! It's what's for breakfast! 2naSalit Aug 2015 #51
work seventeen 12 hour+ nights straight Skittles Aug 2015 #52
I don't know what to think about health claims gollygee Aug 2015 #57
I have a new love = cold brewed Frappuccinos in my blender Baclava Aug 2015 #58
Don't stand between me and the coffee pot. Throd Aug 2015 #60
I just eat 2 lbs of chocolate covered coffee beans a day. PersonNumber503602 Aug 2015 #61
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