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In reply to the discussion: Health effects of coffee: Where do we stand? [View all]TheBlackAdder
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To give some back story:
My brother used to drink strong French Pressed coffee and started to have heart palpitations. He spoke to his doctor after looking up the positives and negatives of his coffee, and there supposedly are more things forced into the coffee that normal drip or perk systems. BUt, he used to drink a boatload of coffee. He's down to 2 cups a day and is fine.
Both of my brother-in-laws are into this coffee kick, where both must use a burr grinder to properly shred the beans, and one of them just bought their own roaster. He roasted coffee, something with a blueberry hint to it. I ground it at home and it came across as slightly substandard, slightly acidic, and not as smooth. Note: The deeper the roast, the less acidic the coffee is.
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Now, getting to my areas of questioning these things:
If you grind your coffee extra-fine, pulverized coffee from a burr grinder, coffee mill, or any other device still yields the same thing, coffee ground much smaller than grains of salt. Regardless of the device, ground coffee is ground coffee. So those device claims appear to be bullshit.
The use of a French Press with fine ground coffee versus a drip machine using extra-fine ground coffee yields almost the same result. Granted the pressure of the press should force a little more oils and other chemicals from the coffee, but the ground is slightly larger.
Boiled coffee seems no different that the perk machines we used. The water repeatedly traverses the grounds, instead of a single pass. I guess the water temperature and time boiled might play into things, but this all goes back to the size of the grounds. I believe boiled coffee uses the same larger grinds that perk systems use. Something that requires extra effort to extract the elements.
Seeing coffee aficionados orgasming over their coffee is an amazing sight to behold. First, true coffee drinkers must drink it black, to 'taste' the coffee. When a rank batch is served, the group turns to the most revered member to get his take on it, then most will follow. Yet, when out in the parking lot, those who agreed will mention that the stuff actually sucked. But, this level of what is good or bad borders on wine tasting lunacy. Granted, we all know what bad coffee or wine is, but the coffee should be what you enjoy, not what others try and tell you to enjoy. Look at Starbucks, pushing that vile Pikes Peak and Americanos on people at late night. Sure, there are those who will drink it, some who like it, but they lost most of their evening crowd when they change over to only offering those. When they offer them to my family, we walk out of the store and go elsewhere. We don't even bother to go to a Starbucks after 8PM, unless someone wants a frap. Now, the several Starbucks near me, that closed at 11PM, are closing early--and they seem confused why people don't go there at night anymore, while the local coffee shops maintain a clientele.
Agreeing with the article, it's really the additives in the coffee that get you. I used to need sugar and half-and-half. Now, I drink it with a little milk or black. The smell of sugar in coffee then took on a revolting smell to me. The filters catching the cafestol seems a little suspect, since perks don't use a filter. My coffee machines use metal mesh baskets, and don't use a filter.
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