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JDPriestly

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40. Wow! Your post confirms my suspicions.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:56 PM
Aug 2015

I have asked over and over on DU why the American and Turkish ambassadors would have met in Benghazi rather than in Tripoli or perhaps on an American vessel in the Mediterranean or some safe place. This explains it. And I have long suspected cooperation between Turkey (interested in assisting attacks on the Kurds) and the US (interested, with the French, on unseating Assad). Not that the goal of unseating Assad is wrong, but the risk of funding or in any way assisting Islamic insurgents against any government in the Middle East requires a lot of understanding about the social and religious and cultural realities on the ground that our Western diplomats and governments lack. (I'm not pretending to have them either.)

So this is going to be the October surprise.

Hulk, Bully Trump is right, and I have also in my intuition been right. Hillary will not make it through the 2016 election. This along with her many conservative stances and her vote for the Iraq War place her judgment and understanding of people and the world in doubt. Bernie, for all his professed democratic socialism is a skeptic, a grump who to a very healthy degree, views the world from the negative as well as the positive. I don't see that balance in any of the present candidates for president, neither among the Republicans or the Democrats.

Of all the things I have grown to like about Bernie, it is the tough, experiencced in life, grumpy side I like the best. It's going to be hard to put something like ISIS over on Bernie once he is president.

This makes me believe more than ever that Bernie will be our next president., Every other possible candidate is enmeshed in these kinds of scandals if not this one -- another one.

Thanks for this post.

Have you posted it as an OP? I am bookmarking it for future reference.

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Better than most, but it was Petraeus/Hillary who facilitated the Qataris in moving Libyan fighters leveymg Aug 2015 #1
Do you think that is the reason the Republicans want Hillary's e-mails and keep talking about JDPriestly Aug 2015 #28
State Dept. and CIA roles in Libyan arms/militia movements reported in Reuters, WSJ, NYT > year ago. leveymg Aug 2015 #39
Wow! Your post confirms my suspicions. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #40
^^^Dems should read this, carefully, so as to remember^^^ delrem Aug 2015 #43
The Constitution requires Congress to vote on a war. It did. merrily Aug 2015 #2
NO kpete Aug 2015 #3
Not sure to what it is that you are saying no. merrily Aug 2015 #5
"No Democrat I knew believed we had to go to war. Did you?" kpete Aug 2015 #7
I appreciate the reply. merrily Aug 2015 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author daleanime Aug 2015 #12
Hell no.... daleanime Aug 2015 #4
No to what? merrily Aug 2015 #6
Your final question... riderinthestorm Aug 2015 #9
Most likely. Thanks. merrily Aug 2015 #10
The war..... daleanime Aug 2015 #14
Wouldn't it have been great if there had been more profiles in courage like Chafee and Bernie then? merrily Aug 2015 #15
Definitely! daleanime Aug 2015 #16
McDermott Spoke The Truth Look What Happened Yallow Aug 2015 #19
It would be a different world, a different reality, a different universe. valerief Aug 2015 #23
I didn't believe we had to treestar Aug 2015 #25
I remember it perfectly. Thanks for saying you did not believe we had to. merrily Aug 2015 #26
That vote was unforgivable in my opinion. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #29
We agree to a large extent. merrily Aug 2015 #31
For whatever reason includes doing it because it was the politically correct thing to do at the time Live and Learn Aug 2015 #32
It was not politically correct, ever. merrily Aug 2015 #35
I would call that morally correct. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #36
How has that vote been working for her politically? merrily Aug 2015 #37
I am with you on that. As I said, unforgivable. nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #38
We (Rs and Ds alike) opened the door for them ShrimpPoboy Aug 2015 #8
We knew invading Iraq would de-stablize the Middle East. merrily Aug 2015 #13
Yes - I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Aug 2015 #17
He should have included the Hillary Iraq war vote. L0oniX Aug 2015 #18
Bernie Can Tell The Truth, and Campaign Yallow Aug 2015 #21
or Libya and Syria: no need to erase the past 5 years out of some misplaced sense of guilt MisterP Aug 2015 #33
I agree! denvine Aug 2015 #20
Don't Forget our Detention (Recruitment) Centers too shadowmayor Aug 2015 #22
Those people are still responsible for their horrible actions treestar Aug 2015 #24
Yeah, that's a given. Hissyspit Aug 2015 #41
Bush/Cheney bombed Baghdad to go after whom? Their faces appear on the deck of playing cards. DhhD Aug 2015 #27
But it's so much easier to belive they hate us for our freedoms mindwalker_i Aug 2015 #30
it definitely extends before 2003 and after 2009 MisterP Aug 2015 #34
Bush and Cheney malaise Aug 2015 #42
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