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bettyellen

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142. People who have never faced this behavior in real life, cannot recognize the pattern...

Sun Aug 16, 2015, 04:24 PM

Aug 2015

But those who have been put through the ringer with this in real life, it is all very familiar.
And whether they can feel any empathy at all it does't matter, they know that they are enabling a situation that is untenable. She is unable to get along with anyone at the moment because of this emotional turmoil and paranoia. Two dozen people are not out to get her, but as long as we enable these notions and pay her to pretend to take care of a dog (because she surely is not- he is very ill as of yesterday), she will remain unemployed and her dog will suffer more. She needs to make some gutsy choices and admit she is not doing right by Yoshi, or herself by continuing in a bad situation. Her plans to scam doggy daycare out of her landlord are an indication of how wrongheaded she is. After what happened with M+M she ought to know better.

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Update on TTW and Yoshi [View all] magical thyme Aug 2015 OP

So is she sorry for Msanthrope and her x? Is she 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #1

I have a request on ATA...will let you know what happens... CTyankee Aug 2015 #2

Thanks Hekate Aug 2015 #35

Sorry, but what is ATA? Tess49 Aug 2015 #36

Ask the Administrators pinboy3niner Aug 2015 #37

Thanks! Tess49 Aug 2015 #55

look, I'm the biggest skeptic foo_bar Aug 2015 #5

I am updating by my choice for those who were concerned about Yoshi magical thyme Aug 2015 #7

MT, I am the person who wrote the OP after Moosepoop's, the one saying Yoshi was in danger and tblue37 Aug 2015 #51

You are a compassionate person with a rational opinion. nruthie Aug 2015 #52

But she IS a person, she IS in real need, and she has used those most recent donations to do ex what tblue37 Aug 2015 #53

Any proof of that? Any accounting of paying the bills at the past doggie daycare? msanthrope Aug 2015 #57

You are not helping. You are ENABLING. You are actually HURTING TTW but allowing her KittyWampus Aug 2015 #96

These are excellent questions and I thank you for asking them. Tipperary Aug 2015 #69

And the saga continues..... philosslayer Aug 2015 #3

I'm glad to hear this and wish her well, but closeupready Aug 2015 #4

I wasn't aware I made any charges, countercharges or drama. magical thyme Aug 2015 #8

And all you can do is share what you've been told by someone whose words KittyWampus Aug 2015 #11

I'm glad she is doing well but not sure what you mean by revenge JI7 Aug 2015 #6

Revenge? Where in the heck is that coming from? 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #12

I think that this comment is a response to the OP, not your post. yardwork Aug 2015 #13

LOL! n/t PasadenaTrudy Aug 2015 #14

It might mean daredtowork Aug 2015 #17

Ever hear the quote, "Living well is the best revenge"? AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #19

But why the need for revenge at all? yardwork Aug 2015 #20

I don't know, and I don't care to delve into it. AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #21

I apologize for the lack of context magical thyme Aug 2015 #28

It may be helpful to google borderline personality disorder. yardwork Aug 2015 #56

"I am not a psychiatrist and in any case it's impossible to diagnose over the Internet" magical thyme Aug 2015 #61

Excuse me....but you've gone a bit too far with regards to me and my ex. msanthrope Aug 2015 #67

+1... SidDithers Aug 2015 #75

your graciousness under pressure Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #245

Wow, to take what TTW says at face value is incredibly naive at this point. She is planning to bettyellen Aug 2015 #79

I need to apologize? Um, I don't think so. magical thyme Aug 2015 #87

Yes, Misanthrope and M-Poop stepped up tried their best. TTW deceived them on purpose about Yoshi bettyellen Aug 2015 #91

That's pretty much where I am... SMC22307 Aug 2015 #181

movie line; a variant of "the best revenge is living well" magical thyme Aug 2015 #24

i know that but it does not fit these circumstances JI7 Aug 2015 #25

you were not party to my email from her magical thyme Aug 2015 #26

i was party to post today and previous ones JI7 Aug 2015 #27

then you are aware of the context magical thyme Aug 2015 #30

the problem is the anger towards certain people is not warranted JI7 Aug 2015 #31

that is in your opinion from your perspective magical thyme Aug 2015 #32

Misanthrope is not surprised because TTW has been completely irrational and told conflicting stories bettyellen Aug 2015 #86

Thank you. narnian60 Aug 2015 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author DawgHouse Aug 2015 #10

Thanks - I'm glad to hear it. n/t Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #15

thanks for the update. I wish her the best Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #16

doggy daycare by day? seveneyes Aug 2015 #18

$15 to $20 a day around here. Lots of people have a smaller place, self employed & dog walk/dog sit Sunlei Aug 2015 #22

Good news to know, thank you for the update. Sunlei Aug 2015 #23

I genuinely hope things work out for her and Yoshi. TDale313 Aug 2015 #29

I appreciate your update. Keep it up - there 840high Aug 2015 #33

Just my two cents Quackers Aug 2015 #34

I don't wish her well Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #38

That latest screed , if it were spoken... 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #39

Yes. Having spoken with TTW, you are correct. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #47

Holy shit, that's scary. She's still got it in for the 2 people who did their damnedest to help! Hekate Aug 2015 #41

And it's continuing.....frankly, I wish TTW would put this much time and effort in job hunting. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #48

yikes. foo_bar Aug 2015 #44

Okay--I laughed.....and told ex about your "perfect-crime" theory. Ex laughed and said msanthrope Aug 2015 #49

Is that right? Sad to hear that. closeupready Aug 2015 #54

for a lot of people the "no help, just cash" + convoluted stories was an all too familiar combo.... bettyellen Aug 2015 #78

Thus.....she needs help. Just not what DU can give. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #83

I want to send her a few grand to see what happens foo_bar Aug 2015 #140

Send me a few grand... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #187

So everything is cleared up...is it true about the big hole in the floor with a sign "Open Floor" snooper2 Aug 2015 #198

No.....the house has its original red pine flooring. From time to time, a msanthrope Aug 2015 #215

Wow, you dodged a bullet there, Ms. I hope she takes Yoshi to a vet today. bettyellen Aug 2015 #217

well it would make a nice break from contacting state agencies about me and my ex. msanthrope Aug 2015 #220

I know this is more your metier but REP Aug 2015 #221

interesting a representative of one of the state agencies suggested same thing to me. msanthrope Aug 2015 #223

I think I recognize a pattern too REP Aug 2015 #225

Oh no..... there are definite threats. msanthrope Aug 2015 #233

It is astounding REP Aug 2015 #237

Her latest OP sounds exactly like my relatives with borderline personality disorder. yardwork Aug 2015 #239

who in the world is going to help her pro-bono with a theft of dog food case? bettyellen Aug 2015 #224

the sad thing is is that no one stole her dog food it was donated and then the shelter msanthrope Aug 2015 #226

I have no doubts it was not stolen. But I fear she is latching on to that and some other item- bettyellen Aug 2015 #228

she wants civil damages from me X and dog walker. that's what she means by interest. msanthrope Aug 2015 #232

Isn't that kind of hare-brained? What damage did she suffer? Demit Aug 2015 #235

So, X's post leads to her netting more than 1K out of concern for Yoshi and now she wants more... bettyellen Aug 2015 #236

He will probably have to go through what the previous landlord did. alphafemale Aug 2015 #45

DU drama LOL, I love how everyone has a vested concern in this... snooper2 Aug 2015 #197

Are you aware that she posted an OP herself today? And she doesn't sound "well and happy." pnwmom Aug 2015 #40

Link is in post #38 for those interested Hekate Aug 2015 #42

Indeed. betsuni Aug 2015 #46

Second pelvic region injury she's reported from a fall REP Aug 2015 #58

Thank you for the update. emsimon33 Aug 2015 #43

I am so glad the money most recently donated has helped her get Yoshi into a better situation tblue37 Aug 2015 #50

How amazing. SheilaT Aug 2015 #59

This ^^^^^^^^^ treestar Aug 2015 #60

She seems to have cycled through SheilaT Aug 2015 #64

Plus, she caught on fire on the job. NBachers Aug 2015 #251

I have an aunt who is somewhat like this, though functional treestar Aug 2015 #264

How amazing indeed. magical thyme Aug 2015 #63

No, but msanthrope did. SheilaT Aug 2015 #65

which is exactly what I said. magical thyme Aug 2015 #66

This makes the 16th thread SheilaT Aug 2015 #68

AND YOUR POINT IS? magical thyme Aug 2015 #72

Oh, good. SheilaT Aug 2015 #101

People LOVE to watch a trainwreck. Human nature! beaglelover Aug 2015 #94

TTW wrote about being assaulted by her housemate, and about getting injured on the job. pnwmom Aug 2015 #185

she made over a grand last week w/ the last Yoshi drama, but has no money for the veterinarian or bettyellen Aug 2015 #74

So I was watching this show called "Dr. Jeff: Rocky Mountain Vet" Picking Dem Aug 2015 #175

a suggestion would be to pay for a background check before more involvement. Sunlei Aug 2015 #193

This saga has really opened my eyes. SiobhanClancy Aug 2015 #62

Would you make an OP of this post.....the issue of care of pets is msanthrope Aug 2015 #85

I was going to suggest the same...an OP for this post. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #97

Magical Thyme, have you read TTW's latest OP, which is now locked? I think you should. Tipperary Aug 2015 #70

you may want to read through this entire thread before magical thyme Aug 2015 #71

I did not mean to offend you and I expect nothing from you. I did read the thread but I must have Tipperary Aug 2015 #73

any explanation of discrepancies would be pure speculation on my part magical thyme Aug 2015 #76

I understand that now and again I did not intend to offend you. You seem like one of the good ones Tipperary Aug 2015 #80

No need to apologize... magical thyme Aug 2015 #82

She probably bought a dime bag with your and others recent donations...... beaglelover Aug 2015 #88

and onto ignore you go. nt magical thyme Aug 2015 #89

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #92

+1 CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #253

Jury results zappaman Aug 2015 #123

Is that you, number #7? bettyellen Aug 2015 #125

I'm one of the 7, yes. zappaman Aug 2015 #127

I need to restring my tambourine! How are Nikki's vocals coming along? bettyellen Aug 2015 #129

She's much more confident. zappaman Aug 2015 #132

Love to here Nikki screeeeeeeaaaam! Yeah! bettyellen Aug 2015 #137

You are a good-hearted person. I know you are an animal lover because of your posts that I have read Tipperary Aug 2015 #113

I'm worried about Mr. Turtle and the old landlord on the brink of losing his home. SMC22307 Aug 2015 #183

OMG. cwydro Aug 2015 #77

Any updates about Yoshi are appreciated! mentalsolstice Aug 2015 #81

per Msanthrope, he had kennel cough magical thyme Aug 2015 #84

You are absolutely, unequivocally wrong. Being in a stable, healthy home KittyWampus Aug 2015 #93

The fact that Yoshi earned her 1K this month alone- and not a cent went to veterinary care for him cinches it. bettyellen Aug 2015 #99

I'm not a veterinarian mentalsolstice Aug 2015 #95

And since his case sounds complicated, you're looking at DawgHouse Aug 2015 #100

The green nasal discharge mentalsolstice Aug 2015 #110

FWIW, bordatella vaccines can be pretty worthless. a la izquierda Aug 2015 #169

My point... mentalsolstice Aug 2015 #170

I agree completely. Nt a la izquierda Aug 2015 #179

You are correct. Drahthaardogs Aug 2015 #243

in which case, hopefully she'll pursue veterinary treatment sooner rather than later magical thyme Aug 2015 #105

I feel sorry for those who recently sent her over $1,000 bucks. None of it went to help the dog... beaglelover Aug 2015 #90

It would be best all around... El Jefe II Aug 2015 #102

Agree 100% She's being extremely selfish at the moment and as someone else said in this beaglelover Aug 2015 #103

YOU HAVE SPEWED OUT CRAP LIKE THIS BEFORE. trueblue2007 Aug 2015 #139

She has learned that he is a money maker. 1K because he was sick- yet not a dime spent at the vet. bettyellen Aug 2015 #104

She could always have posted the name of a Vet & people could 'pre-pay' the Vet directly. Sunlei Aug 2015 #195

Man! PasadenaTrudy Aug 2015 #98

Read my mind. Watching this whole thing go down has been frustrating. Butterbean Aug 2015 #177

Yep! nt mentalsolstice Aug 2015 #184

Try to remember no one here knows anything daredtowork Aug 2015 #106

Sadly Misanthrope and Moosepoop have direct experience w/ TTW and her situation. bettyellen Aug 2015 #107

Yes but they can take care of themselves daredtowork Aug 2015 #111

You care enough Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers Aug 2015 #156

Misanthrope is still being vilified as conspiring to dog-nap and dog food thief. Very detailed accusations bettyellen Aug 2015 #116

Then you should back away daredtowork Aug 2015 #121

And you should stop giving unsolicited advice to (not upset at all) posters here. No one likes bettyellen Aug 2015 #124

These posters are calling her a "drug addict" and a "scammer" and mental illness claims daredtowork Aug 2015 #130

Perhaps you should take a break? REP Aug 2015 #138

Okay how would you advise me to reword it? daredtowork Aug 2015 #143

It is a diagnosis REP Aug 2015 #145

It's probably more my style of writing daredtowork Aug 2015 #147

Do you really think she'd be willing SheilaT Aug 2015 #157

None of our business at this point daredtowork Aug 2015 #163

People who have never faced this behavior in real life, cannot recognize the pattern... bettyellen Aug 2015 #142

It will probably backfire daredtowork Aug 2015 #146

If you go back to the first two threads- February and March I think? Others here googled dozens of bettyellen Aug 2015 #151

I'm not disagreeing with you daredtowork Aug 2015 #161

St. Vincent de Paul was recommended SheilaT Aug 2015 #154

I'm not denying that at all daredtowork Aug 2015 #160

If she went to St.Vincent de Paul SheilaT Aug 2015 #166

I feel this thing has gotten way out of hand. CTyankee Aug 2015 #152

I think they do not want to judge though, but it has gotten to a point where DUers have endangered bettyellen Aug 2015 #153

But she is also badmouthing DU saying it would be a party in selling her dog... CTyankee Aug 2015 #155

Selling? Oh wow, I thought it was just dog napping and dog food stealing. bettyellen Aug 2015 #159

This situation is out of our control and DU's. If she is going to tell authorities that CTyankee Aug 2015 #162

that is a good point. although I seriously doubt she is presenting as credible bettyellen Aug 2015 #171

I'm not sure if that is a concern REP Aug 2015 #176

OMG, I don't recall seeing that! Ugh. You are right...that is serious stuff... CTyankee Aug 2015 #189

Here: tammywammy Aug 2015 #190

I haven't been following his story so I don't know whether he is in therapy or what. CTyankee Aug 2015 #194

No mention of therapy REP Aug 2015 #211

It is mentioned here ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2015 #241

Since the word "therapy" wasn't used, didn't want to assume REP Aug 2015 #244

Yeah, I knew there was also a post saying that remaining in a house would prevent relapse. n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2015 #246

About Yoshi mentalsolstice Aug 2015 #119

You don't know how TTW will pursue that daredtowork Aug 2015 #120

what happened to the $1000 she raised in the last week or so? why does she STILL need money for a beaglelover Aug 2015 #122

She probably used it for doggie daycare daredtowork Aug 2015 #128

She does have a place to live, and has not paid her dog daycare bill REP Aug 2015 #133

Yes daredtowork Aug 2015 #141

Res ipsa loquitur REP Aug 2015 #144

Ooh that's where the $1000 went daredtowork Aug 2015 #148

Read it again. SMC22307 Aug 2015 #186

It's not unclear- the dog boarders did not get paid. Both Mis and TTW said so. bettyellen Aug 2015 #135

The money is going toward rent daredtowork Aug 2015 #149

both- she couch surfed for weeks, and now just started paying rent 2-3 weeks ago... bettyellen Aug 2015 #158

Yep. I'm just trying not to dwell on it. :-/ nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #164

And now she can't work until Yoshi is well because DawgHouse Aug 2015 #172

Yeah, that nice man has no idea what is in store for him. I have no idea if Yoshi will survive this bettyellen Aug 2015 #173

She knows he needs the rent money from her Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #178

I think that is why so many imagine it is a substance abuse issue, the total lack of empathy, bettyellen Aug 2015 #180

Well it's doubtful she could hold down a job in the first place daredtowork Aug 2015 #231

She had said before that her previous field was bartending DawgHouse Aug 2015 #234

Yep she won't have the money on the 20th daredtowork Aug 2015 #257

A woman is not 'old' at 50. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #266

Yes, but the job market is more difficult at that point. nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #271

I am older than 50. I quit a soul killing job cwydro Aug 2015 #275

They might be hard to get if you can't "get along with others" daredtowork Aug 2015 #276

Oh good lord. cwydro Aug 2015 #278

You seem stressed! If there's one thing that I've picked up in these threads, Demit Aug 2015 #279

I'm sure you know what "projection" is REP Aug 2015 #280

Nowhere has she claimed any disability, physical or psychological REP Aug 2015 #238

She may not have the path to SSI daredtowork Aug 2015 #256

Regarding her threats: she now has the dog back, so everything is status quo ante. Demit Aug 2015 #261

I doubt that's going to happen daredtowork Aug 2015 #273

She is a legally competent adult REP Aug 2015 #265

All true daredtowork Aug 2015 #272

She sure has enough time to sue people, though n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2015 #242

She never said any of the $1000 went to rent. herding cats Aug 2015 #168

Agreed 1000%! And with many others in this"16th" thread. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #174

I really do wish them the best. herding cats Aug 2015 #182

If the dog isn't cat friendly, someone who has cats should have never attempted to take the dog in LisaL Aug 2015 #199

The helper was reassured Yoshi was okay with cats- and children..... bettyellen Aug 2015 #206

This message was self-deleted by its author justamama83 Aug 2015 #207

You might want to go back and check post #67 justamama83 Aug 2015 #208

He is not in daycare; he has a highly contagious disease and cannot be boarded REP Aug 2015 #126

just like most people get over a bad cold without a Doctor, most dogs will recover from kennel cough Sunlei Aug 2015 #191

Dog has green nasal discharge, which could indicate a serious problem. LisaL Aug 2015 #202

yes, it could have distemper if the owner never vaccinated. Dogs been exposed. Owner could Sunlei Aug 2015 #203

Sounds like she got money in the go fund me account to at least take a dog for a check up. LisaL Aug 2015 #204

yes, she could if she wanted to use the cash for a dog exam. On top of that shes the one Sunlei Aug 2015 #205

I think this is a good idea. PearliePoo2 Aug 2015 #210

The dog is said to have green discharge from the nostrils, which if true REP Aug 2015 #209

sure. I rescued a 'last day' very sick, dog pound dog, from Macon, Ga & it took a month at Sunlei Aug 2015 #212

You and I would take the dog to the vet and spend the money. REP Aug 2015 #213

perhaps she will post her Vets name so people can pay the Vet directly. Sunlei Aug 2015 #214

Apparently all that money went to her former landlord REP Aug 2015 #216

So? once cash is given, it's their money to spend as they wish. Sunlei Aug 2015 #218

Pardon? Did I say anything about abandoning the dog? No. REP Aug 2015 #219

No one disagrees with that sentiment, that it would be nice to keep your dog when times get hard. Demit Aug 2015 #222

Well put. cwydro Aug 2015 #262

I sincerely hope you're right. mentalsolstice Aug 2015 #131

My surmise is only to balance the negative version daredtowork Aug 2015 #134

S2 E3 snooper2 Aug 2015 #201

If it were picked up by the Lifetime channel that would take care of all her worries daredtowork Aug 2015 #227

I like your integrity through this; always have; Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #248

I don't know if TTW can be fixed or not daredtowork Aug 2015 #255

OK. But I say that in a free society, we can't force people Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #260

I agree with that daredtowork Aug 2015 #268

How many more times should everyone get together and 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #263

*grin* There is that. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #267

Gosh I hope you don't think any of those are my motive daredtowork Aug 2015 #269

If any of those describe you, I don't think any less of you. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #274

LOL, and cheers. *toasts you* nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #277

That's a misunderstanding and I'm sorry you feel I'm repeating that request daredtowork Aug 2015 #270

In my very humble opinion I believe you may have just put 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #258

very well said. thank you. magical thyme Aug 2015 #108

hustlers hustle Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #109

And sockpuppets sockpuppet. nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #112

what, Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #114

I do find it interesting that this poster made that allegation against you. I read through previous Tipperary Aug 2015 #117

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #118

I imagine I understand this situation because it reminds me so much of my grandma... hunter Aug 2015 #136

Beautifully stated. nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #150

I found this site to help homeless folk and their pets mentalsolstice Aug 2015 #165

I contributed the first go round.... madamvlb Aug 2015 #167

From Anais Nin's "A Spy in the House of Love": betsuni Aug 2015 #188

"One thing she didn't blur, however, was the link to her gofundme page." Demit Aug 2015 #192

Heh. betsuni Aug 2015 #196

Love her short stories. The naughty ones, lol, of course. closeupready Aug 2015 #230

I like the diaries best. betsuni Aug 2015 #240

Sounds like the dog needs to go to the vet ASAP. LisaL Aug 2015 #200

I truly hope things continue to go well with them both. ladyVet Aug 2015 #229

Everything sounds just fucking peachy seveneyes Aug 2015 #247

Marta and I have helped TTW in the past Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #249

And yet. nt Codeine Aug 2015 #250

When the two of you say something like "cut bait" it might 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #259

So does she need more money? dilby Aug 2015 #252

Donate to DU for Grayson through Act Blue here Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #254