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StevieM

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48. The filibuster will go the next time the GOP control the White House and the Congress.
Mon Aug 17, 2015, 01:07 AM
Aug 2015

The Republicans made such a big deal about Harry Reid going nuclear, calling it "dictatorial." But they had effectively ended the filibuster under George Bush, at least for judges, by threatening to go nuclear. And under Obama filibuster's had reached an insane level, never before seen--or approached--in history, before they finally changed the rules.

The GOP won't miss a chance to get rid of Obamacare, or at least parts of it, if they are ever in control. They will go nuclear.

I suppose it's possible that a creative use of budget reconciliation might take the place of the nuclear option. I have always believed the the threat of this option is what got Joe Lieberman to grudgingly vote for the ACA, along with a belief that he would have a second chance to block it after it came back from conference. But then there was no conference, of course, and the House took the Senate bill word for word.

But at a certain point--like allowing drilling in ANWR--using budget reconciliation, where there is no real application, is really no different then going nuclear on the filibuster.

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Dick Durbin One of the 99 Aug 2015 #1
Whoever needs to be good at knowing and using Senate rules. But frankly... Tom Rinaldo Aug 2015 #2
I didn't see this, thanks for the info. irisblue Aug 2015 #5
Dick Durbin. nt City Lights Aug 2015 #3
Of course it should be Durbin hedda_foil Aug 2015 #9
this is not a hit & run post, I need to go do stuff for a couple of hours. irisblue Aug 2015 #4
Leahy would be great. DeadLetterOffice Aug 2015 #6
Murray, Durbin, or just to fuck things up, Elizabeth Warren. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #7
I think it's more like:"if Schumer CAN'T be the majority leader;" Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #8
Bernie caucuses with the Dems but is still an (I) KamaAina Aug 2015 #18
I move that we SUSPEND THE RULES. Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #20
Sanders said he supports Schumer for dem leader JI7 Aug 2015 #43
If he is elected again: Russ Feingold n/t sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #10
Al Franken would be wonderful stuffmatters Aug 2015 #11
yes. franken would be excellent. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #13
Yes! I love Franken. smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #41
+1 Go Vols Aug 2015 #46
Pat Leahy or Sherrod Brown? choie Aug 2015 #12
Warren or Franken. We need new(-ish) blood in leadership roles. nt appal_jack Aug 2015 #14
If those are my three choices, I'll go with Durbin. n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #15
There are more listed in Dem leadership , http://democrats.senate.gov/leadership/ irisblue Aug 2015 #31
In that case, I'll take Stabenow. It's time a woman was in charge. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #34
Warren, Leahy, Sherrod Brown, Franken or Whitehouse; any one will do - n/t mazzarro Aug 2015 #16
I vote for Murray Evergreen Emerald Aug 2015 #17
dick Durbin who I preferred long before this karynnj Aug 2015 #19
Leahey 1st choice, Durbin 2nd choice if those are the only choices. 2banon Aug 2015 #21
no you didn't miss any news. A lot of people are pissed @ him. You know what happens irisblue Aug 2015 #32
thanks. Been away, wondered if this was wishful thinking.. which it is for me! 2banon Aug 2015 #39
Elizabeth Warren would be the dream candidate. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #22
Schumer's downfall over this issue is merely the wishful thinking of his pre-existing opponents. tritsofme Aug 2015 #23
Stop making sense! MADem Aug 2015 #27
+1 840high Aug 2015 #35
Mitch McConnel dsc Aug 2015 #24
LOL & point taken! irisblue Aug 2015 #33
My dream would be Elizabeth Warren, BUT maxrandb Aug 2015 #25
I would say no to Warren and here's why LynneSin Aug 2015 #29
He will be, though. nt MADem Aug 2015 #26
Durbin Historic NY Aug 2015 #28
Elizabeth Warren, but it won't happen. Durbin, probably still_one Aug 2015 #30
Dick Durbin oasis Aug 2015 #36
Not a DINO hobbit709 Aug 2015 #37
Durbin because repubs seem to have a tough time working with guys from IL. craigmatic Aug 2015 #38
great thread oldandhappy Aug 2015 #40
I love Patty Murray. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #42
Every last one of those individuals voted for DOMA and represent all I dislike about this Party Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #44
Durbin. nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #45
Jeff Merkley MurrayDelph Aug 2015 #47
The filibuster will go the next time the GOP control the White House and the Congress. StevieM Aug 2015 #48
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