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jwirr

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50. No one gives cares about alcohol? Try living on a reservation. If we had

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 10:58 AM

Aug 2015

a chance in hell we would have that as one of the big drugs. But there are too many users of all races - there is no stopping that. Even the churches would scream. Plus as we learned many years ago - alcohol can easily be manufactured in your own bathtub without detection.

And since I am working on laws that will make treatment centers better none of what you are saying is anything I disagree with. Our treatment centers also work with alcoholics but that is a really hard problem since like doctor related addictions - it is legal. They can and do walk right out the door of the treatment center to the bar. Thank goodness that all of them do not do that.

For a site that claims to want to use treatment instead of prisons to treat addictions there are certainly a lot of you who do not want the treatment centers to ask for laws that make their job workable.

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Good lord, are you for real? LeftyMom Aug 2015 #78

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