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drmeow

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70. Make sure your grandson

Mon Aug 17, 2015, 04:53 PM

Aug 2015

knows about the overdose risk - it will be hard without making it sound like you expect him to fail the program (a good program they will make sure he knows it). I don't know about how various programs run but my personal belief (based on what I know about psychology) is that staying with the program will be easier if he has two things - 1) opportunities to experience "highs" (joy, excitement, fun, etc) without the heroin (having a wife and kids can certainly provide some of that, laughter - regular really good intense belly laughs - I personally think is important. For some people exercise, for me it would be dance. Stuff like that.) and 2) skills to reframe both negatives into less serious things and minor positives into bigger positives. A significant part of emotions are interpretations and they can spiral up or spiral down. Preventing the downward spiral through reinterpretation of negatives is, IMO, critical to successful addiction treatment.

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Little Mini-rant on prescription painkillers... [View all] Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 OP

The Endless War On Drugs is harmfull in a vast array of ways, this being one. Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #1

My mom was in hospice about 2 and a half weeks, sorry about your mom, but we did like... Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #14

With the DEA peering over their shoulders, hospitals & doctors have to watch their @#$. Scurrilous Aug 2015 #2

Same with my broken, dislocated shoulder woodsprite Aug 2015 #77

I totally agree. The hysteria about this is more than a little fishy to me 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #3

That was me about 10 years ago CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #5

I've been very fortunate 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #8

Thanks to the War on Drugs ... CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #4

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And yet no-one in that law enforcement-fearing community gives a crap about being addicted to tobacco n2doc Aug 2015 #6

They are taxing it to oblivion, and I, for one, welcome it, was a smoker for almost 20 years... Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #9

My mom was a smoker too, and also died from cancer n2doc Aug 2015 #20

True, the key is to try to find constructive ways to treat addiction, rather than criminalizing.... Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #22

Regional Differences For Freddie Aug 2015 #10

Yes, there are some regional differences, I'm sorry for the loss of your husband, I'm glad he.. Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #12

I thought that it was impossible LiberalElite Aug 2015 #11

Chemical addiction is chemical addiction, but the point is, does it matter if you need it? Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #13

I agree with you eom LiberalElite Aug 2015 #15

That's not true. Mariana Aug 2015 #18

for me, after a difficult surgery I had pain pills during the healing of my gut and CTyankee Aug 2015 #39

For most people, it takes a long time Mariana Aug 2015 #40

Thats true for chronic pain sorefeet Aug 2015 #33

I have absolutely no problem with end of life drugs I actually asked the jwirr Aug 2015 #16

Where do chronic pain suffers fit into all of this? Humanist_Activist Aug 2015 #17

Well my son in law went to a regular doctor who referred him to a jwirr Aug 2015 #19

Restricting opiates just shifts addicts to heroin. LeftyMom Aug 2015 #45

We are also working on ending or slowing down the illegal sales as well jwirr Aug 2015 #48

Good lord, are you for real? LeftyMom Aug 2015 #78

You are the one who is not for real. So according to you we just set jwirr Aug 2015 #80

Wait, you think you know more than me about living with addicts? LeftyMom Aug 2015 #87

Great. So people with chronic pain can just suffer. kcr Aug 2015 #46

Do you have a regular doctor? If s/he is any good s/he will send you to jwirr Aug 2015 #49

"The medical profession has a means of dealing with pain " DeadLetterOffice Aug 2015 #53

That is too bad. But as I am telling you I have nothing to do with the jwirr Aug 2015 #54

Here,any doctor in the state Go Vols Aug 2015 #74

But treatment centers are not included in that. That is the problem. jwirr Aug 2015 #76

In practice the DEA becomes a price support agency for the larger drug gangsters... hunter Aug 2015 #56

We on the reservation also understand who owe us. In our case things jwirr Aug 2015 #58

Addiction is a major public health problem and ought to be treated as such. hunter Aug 2015 #62

Agreed. jwirr Aug 2015 #64

I wish I could get hydracodone for my spinal arthritic pain but I can't so I take Extra STrenth CTyankee Aug 2015 #21

I hate it that you a) can't get good RX pain meds, and Seeking Serenity Aug 2015 #60

That's one reason heroin use is up 150% since 2007 madville Aug 2015 #23

Hydrocodone was moved from a Schedule III Unknown Beatle Aug 2015 #24

2200 people a year die of alcohol poisoning - i.e. overdose Mariana Aug 2015 #26

No one gives cares about alcohol? Try living on a reservation. If we had jwirr Aug 2015 #50

I want treatment to be available for all addicts. Mariana Aug 2015 #55

In my state addicts have a court hearing to determine placement. It is jwirr Aug 2015 #57

I'm glad you are doing the work that you do. Mariana Aug 2015 #59

Yeah, our country has had a really wrong attitude regarding addiction of jwirr Aug 2015 #63

Cocaine Sgent Aug 2015 #29

My Wife Takes All the Drugs You Can Get! mpgalloway Aug 2015 #25

I agree on the first point, have some mixed response on the second drmeow Aug 2015 #27

That's very interesting. I would like to hear more about it. smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #41

The readers digest condensed version drmeow Aug 2015 #43

Thank you! smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #44

Here's hoping you never need drmeow Aug 2015 #65

Thank you. Important information. In the treatment centers that use jwirr Aug 2015 #51

Another thing with methadone drmeow Aug 2015 #68

Thank you. My grandson has Hep C and that is one reason his is really jwirr Aug 2015 #69

Make sure your grandson drmeow Aug 2015 #70

Thank you. I will talk with him. He just married his new wife and I was jwirr Aug 2015 #73

See if he's had overdose training drmeow Aug 2015 #85

Thank you. That makes a lot of sense. I think one of the problems facing jwirr Aug 2015 #86

Cancer does fucking suck, Humanist! Medical Marijuana is also very effective as a pain reliever. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #28

It's residual puritanism in the American psyche. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #30

When my father was dying of cancer I was the one who asked the doctor jwirr Aug 2015 #52

Anyone who uses opioids without a prescription is labeled an abuser. Lyric Aug 2015 #31

Amen!! CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #35

Very few things get my dander up more than this. Lyric Aug 2015 #37

That's very polite for a rant. hunter Aug 2015 #38

+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #42

You hit the nail on the head. Pakhet Aug 2015 #47

This ^^ Seeking Serenity Aug 2015 #61

Have you ever tried Nuerotin for the nerve pain? Marrah_G Aug 2015 #81

I did, actually. Lyric Aug 2015 #83

Close friend in constant severe pain for 12+ years due to mesh, inoperable lostnfound Aug 2015 #32

First do no harm nor injustice sorefeet Aug 2015 #34

Pain killers are medicine for people in pain. Its really that simple. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #36

I used to take police reports for stolen pain killers a lot Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #66

I have cancer and I am recovering from major surgery. Oxy greatly improves the quality of my life. Glimmer of Hope Aug 2015 #67

+1000 Lyric Aug 2015 #84

Addiction is a horrible disease cally Aug 2015 #71

Add race to the equation and... BOOM! KamaAina Aug 2015 #72

Amen Amen and Amen KentuckyWoman Aug 2015 #75

If you are dying you should be able to do any drug you want. dilby Aug 2015 #79

You are half right TheSarcastinator Aug 2015 #82