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bvar22

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52. This life is not for everyone.

Tue Aug 18, 2015, 05:44 PM

Aug 2015

It takes a fairly strong, broad skill set, and the ability to do lots of manual labor.
There really is nobody to call when something breaks.

I doubt we could fit 300,000,000 in this county,
and most of those couldn't survive without their car and a 20,000 sq ft Central Air "home".
Those few that can.....really enjoy it here,
but its not for everyone.

There is enough space, fertile ground, and water in The South to feed our nation easily.
(I wouldn't trust anything west of the Mississippi due to the coming Water Wars).

It would take a plan on the scale of an FDR to get this accomplished, and a complete revamp of our Economic System where protection from Hunger is a basic Human Right and not a commodity,
but the resources are here if we use them wisely.....

..but like you, I don't see enough people willing to make the effort.

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The New Mass Extinction: There�s A Pipeline Ready To Burst Under The Great Lakes [View all] KamaAina Aug 2015 OP

Humans Faux pas Aug 2015 #1

It's all going to cave in, eventually, everything. Frankly, humans are so F'en stupid. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2015 #2

We are too stupid to survive. nt ladjf Aug 2015 #5

Agreed. CrispyQ Aug 2015 #6

++ THIS reflects something I've thought forever. n/t DirkGently Aug 2015 #34

Thanks Thespian2 Aug 2015 #84

Nailed it. ctsnowman Aug 2015 #128

But once we kill ourselves off the planet will eventually heal itself. totodeinhere Aug 2015 #97

These folks would be perfect: BeanMusical Aug 2015 #142

Too greedy... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Aug 2015 #102

Good point. What we haven't ladjf Aug 2015 #115

I don't understand why Faux pas Aug 2015 #22

Objective thinking immediately reveals probable outcomes. ladjf Aug 2015 #116

This goes hand in hand Faux pas Aug 2015 #134

Definitely. But, the change from subjective thinking to ladjf Aug 2015 #135

Sounds like Faux pas Aug 2015 #136

I wouldn't say that an overuse of subjective deduction rises ladjf Aug 2015 #137

Thanks for responding... Faux pas Aug 2015 #144

My grandfater lived on the Redcliff Reservation on the Great Lakes. artislife Aug 2015 #111

Imagine what it will be like in another 50 years given the present course. It's frightening, RKP5637 Aug 2015 #132

Yep, we're the best argument there is against the theory of "intelligent design." mountain grammy Aug 2015 #31

I know huh? Faux pas Aug 2015 #35

Yeah we are - a loathsome species. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #86

Sad but true, and little time left to change. mountain grammy Aug 2015 #93

Calvin said it best. Amimnoch Aug 2015 #119

Great! mountain grammy Aug 2015 #127

Only after the last river has been poisoned.... NightWatcher Aug 2015 #3

Turn it OFF!! G_j Aug 2015 #4

That is what I thought. jwirr Aug 2015 #8

Can they turn it off? Safely???? Need petition asap. glinda Aug 2015 #46

I don't know for sure but most gas lines have a shut-off valve. But I jwirr Aug 2015 #76

Read Wikipedia for Enbridge Line 5. This pipeline was built in 1953 and jwirr Aug 2015 #81

Here. If you come up with a statement and message it to me to help look it over.....WE CAN DO IT glinda Aug 2015 #92

Eggzaklee! Scuba Aug 2015 #62

My first reaction was also to turn it off emsimon33 Aug 2015 #107

k & r snagglepuss Aug 2015 #7

Enbridge is spectacularly awful. So is the proposed nuke dump next to Lake Huron. Octafish Aug 2015 #9

I knew the name Enbridge sounded familiar! KamaAina Aug 2015 #10

I can't blame Enbridge for the nuke dump. Octafish Aug 2015 #23

It might be useful to remember our Republican governors navarth Aug 2015 #91

and still the idiots vote Republican... Stargazer99 Aug 2015 #113

Who's going to tell them different? navarth Aug 2015 #122

To put this in perspective, every oil tanker unit train carries over 1 Million MineralMan Aug 2015 #11

I doubt very seriously Millenials are capable, but if they really wanted a better life, it strikes jtuck004 Aug 2015 #12

That's a load of garbage matt819 Aug 2015 #20

We are all the problem. The boomers are too fat and lazy and corrupt to fix it. But the jtuck004 Aug 2015 #26

Boomer here. Moved to The Woods with Wife in 2006. bvar22 Aug 2015 #36

Farm out Roy Rolling Aug 2015 #37

Of course. <G> But you stand out because you are the exception. And your world only jtuck004 Aug 2015 #38

Water was out first concern when we moved here. bvar22 Aug 2015 #43

We are on an underground well that taps into the big aquifer under here. It used to water jtuck004 Aug 2015 #50

Your profile didn't list what part of the country in which you live, bvar22 Aug 2015 #61

NE Corner of WA State. Spokane used to be a center for Strawberries, Peaches, Potatoes, jtuck004 Aug 2015 #64

Sorry, I just don't get the millennial bashing matt819 Aug 2015 #48

There is a whole generation that should be saving themselves, and instead are working to make others jtuck004 Aug 2015 #59

Righteous Rant. bvar22 Aug 2015 #67

I don't mean to write us off, but we had all that and threw it away to satisfy our greed. jtuck004 Aug 2015 #71

This: CrispyQ Aug 2015 #95

Aren't you condemning an awful lot of very good non-lazy, non-obese with that broad bush? Enthusiast Aug 2015 #53

The world is burning up. Your laws along with them. We are all letting it happen. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #60

wait a minute......... Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2015 #57

We need to have a big national conversation about how to go forward with no growth. jtuck004 Aug 2015 #63

As long as people use petroleum products, the oil will move. MineralMan Aug 2015 #24

No, I am saying they have to stop life as we know it. Everyone is too comfortable on jtuck004 Aug 2015 #28

Go for it! Really! MineralMan Aug 2015 #29

Oh, the solution is coming. One way or another. <G> jtuck004 Aug 2015 #33

You could move next door to us in the Deep South. bvar22 Aug 2015 #40

I could do that. I can live and work anywhere. MineralMan Aug 2015 #41

This life is not for everyone. bvar22 Aug 2015 #52

I want this: CrispyQ Aug 2015 #96

We need to transport electricity, not oil across the country. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #13

And profitability. /nt demwing Aug 2015 #16

Profitability involves weighing the possibile losses of an action against the potential JDPriestly Aug 2015 #110

Cool. I'm all for it. Do you think it can be built before the next huge MineralMan Aug 2015 #25

It's a horrible reality. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #109

It is just a matter of will. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #49

It's a nice dream, but the energy loss is prohibitive Android3.14 Aug 2015 #117

No one thought that electricity was possible. But it is. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #118

We are definitely on the same page Android3.14 Aug 2015 #121

So your answer is to do nothing cause there are other disasters waiting to happen. unapatriciated Aug 2015 #19

No. My answer is that it's Hobson's Choice. MineralMan Aug 2015 #21

Unlikely zipplewrath Aug 2015 #90

Thank god we have corporations. The people who profited from the pipe... Taitertots Aug 2015 #14

Does ANYONE believe that anything will be done? demwing Aug 2015 #15

Yah, there's a solution. MineralMan Aug 2015 #30

I'm being dramatically despondent demwing Aug 2015 #47

I see. I was being realistic. MineralMan Aug 2015 #51

See...and I thought you were being sarcastic demwing Aug 2015 #54

Nope. Not sarcastic at all. Realistic. MineralMan Aug 2015 #74

OK. You think you were being realistic. I get that demwing Aug 2015 #77

Realistic corporate flack Joe Turner Aug 2015 #85

"Eh?" Are you Canadian? Do you work for Enbridge? KamaAina Aug 2015 #68

No to both. I work for myself, MineralMan Aug 2015 #72

I know that! I just thought it was odd to see "Eh?" in a thread aboot a Canadian company. KamaAina Aug 2015 #75

As a resident Canadian I'll clear that up LiberalLovinLug Aug 2015 #138

So he screwed up his punctuation, eh? KamaAina Aug 2015 #139

Are you impressed with yourself? demwing Aug 2015 #79

That depends, and changes from day to day... MineralMan Aug 2015 #80

Maybe not but that should not keep us from trying. Imagine a dead zone jwirr Aug 2015 #83

Hell, imagine a one-lake dead zone demwing Aug 2015 #98

From what i read is directly touches Lake Michigan, Lake Huron and jwirr Aug 2015 #133

Enron...Enbridge...they're entitled...we're endangered. nt valerief Aug 2015 #17

k & freaking r! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2015 #18

K & R Duppers Aug 2015 #27

BP tried to get permission to drill under Lake Michigan ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2015 #32

Someone wanted to put drill rigs out on Lake Erie. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #45

I bet the algae bloom prevented them from finding the bottom. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2015 #56

Could be. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #58

A minor error in fact Kaleva Aug 2015 #39

Now, now... MineralMan Aug 2015 #42

that's right G_j Aug 2015 #55

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point taken G_j Aug 2015 #99

All potential environmental pollution is of considerable concern. MineralMan Aug 2015 #124

But if the headline and first sentence of the article are incorrect.. Kaleva Aug 2015 #88

true G_j Aug 2015 #100

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I will G_j Aug 2015 #141

Kicked and recommended to the Max! They need to turn this fucker off immediately! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #44

it seems like hardly a day goes by any longer when it isn't absolutely clear... mike_c Aug 2015 #65

K&R... spanone Aug 2015 #66

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No there is not. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #104

kick, kick, kick.... daleanime Aug 2015 #87

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George Carlin "The American Dream" Pharaoh Aug 2015 #108

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YouTube link to the documentary: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #140

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