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Syzygy321

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119. Every time someone makes a big point of the fact that he

Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:52 AM

Aug 2015

wasn't Israeli, it implies that if he were Israeli this would have been fine and proper behavior.

Yeah, I don't get that. The guy's a singer. Where he was born is an accident of fate. If he had been born in Israel - same guy, same music - people think it would be right to do this??

I am baffled. How is birthplace-based discrimination any more acceptable than religion-based discrimination?

Example: The leader of North Korea is a psychopath. I don't blame NK citizens for his existence. Many of them probably hate him violently (like many Israelis hate the current government). I wouldn't be proud of silencing an artist because, " ooooh! you're from that bad country that I am taught to hate."

That's what passes for a protest movement: the silencing of artists?

Nope. Don't get it.

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Spanish Reggae festival boots Jewish performer [View all] cali Aug 2015 OP

Disgusting ellisonz Aug 2015 #1

^^^^ ellisonz Aug 2015 #106

Yeah, should also come with a blood pressure warning. Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #117

I haven't heard of him or his music before. Quackers Aug 2015 #128

I condemn all the lyrics about murdering gay people or any other people malaise Aug 2015 #2

One American Jewish Reggae singer has nothing to do with Gaza REP Aug 2015 #5

wow. this is McCarthy style bullshit cali Aug 2015 #6

What cali said. Because it's perfectly appropriate. WillowTree Aug 2015 #8

crazy to see defense of antisemitism here but cali Aug 2015 #11

That user's anti-semitism has been obvious for a while HERVEPA Aug 2015 #28

sadly, it's clear as can be here. cali Aug 2015 #65

Well, thank you for always being willing to take a stand for what's right. WillowTree Aug 2015 #80

thanks.for those very kind words cali Aug 2015 #83

Thanks for being here Cali. madaboutharry Aug 2015 #93

thank you so much, mad cali Aug 2015 #94

Ask those who practiced apartheid in South Africa and those who remained silent malaise Aug 2015 #17

time to boycott the US 6chars Aug 2015 #20

He's American n/t Cal Carpenter Aug 2015 #21

you seem unable to distinguish between an israeli cali Aug 2015 #23

I remember when the Israeli government expected Serena Williams malaise Aug 2015 #27

But he is American, not Israeli, you are saying to boycott all Jews. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #36

that would be consistent with bds 6chars Aug 2015 #96

One.More.Time! Sissyk Aug 2015 #49

Born in Pennsylvania, raised in Westchester NY. His name is actually Matthew Paul Miller. MADem Aug 2015 #54

Thanks. I knew some of that. Sissyk Aug 2015 #55

Oh it's good when the haters team up. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #73

So American jews are Israeli citizens now? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #51

I don't know his status malaise Aug 2015 #61

And this is an antisemitic trope with a LLLLOOOONGGGG tail nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #62

There are many, many more American Christians who do REP Aug 2015 #63

ugh. from.disgusting to more disgusting. cali Aug 2015 #67

isn't that what right wingers say about muslims and terrorism ? JI7 Aug 2015 #72

I suppose you would have supported the internment of Japanese Americans Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #74

Huh???? n/t malaise Aug 2015 #76

What? Are you claiming Japan didn't commit atrocities? Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #82

I don't think you understand how antisemitic you are being but the level is very high. stevenleser Aug 2015 #103

May I also add that Jews who are Israeli citizens Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #118

That begins to muddy the waters a bit. stevenleser Aug 2015 #132

Agreed - we can all take a sliver if we push a point to its extreme - Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #134

LOL I am loving this! Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #77

And there are lots more Christian Americans who support israel cali Aug 2015 #95

Stop. Just stop. Foolish. 840high Aug 2015 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #121

Defending these McCarthyite leftynyc Aug 2015 #136

Seems like being anti-Semitic is a-ok on this website. Oneironaut Aug 2015 #141

Considering about fifty people called her out Codeine Aug 2015 #142

On the other hand Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #148

I missed that. Codeine Aug 2015 #152

I alerted on it last night, and got this message back: Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #155

if anyone has detailed info on this please post JI7 Aug 2015 #158

Seriously. It's ridiculous! smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #75

this is his.beautiful response cali Aug 2015 #10

That is lovely. REP Aug 2015 #16

^^^^ ellisonz Aug 2015 #18

And it is beautiful n/t malaise Aug 2015 #24

That gets at the heart of a weird BDS thing: Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #43

I have seen you defend Buju Banton right here on this board. One of the murder singers. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #13

That story was not all over the press here malaise Aug 2015 #15

sorry defending.what these organizers did to matisyahu cali Aug 2015 #19

Silence re the atrocities in Gaza is some very ugly malaise Aug 2015 #30

yes but I haven't been silent about.that and cali Aug 2015 #41

Neither - but I do condemn that war criminal malaise Aug 2015 #60

And how exactly does this tie in to an AMERICAN PERFORMER nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #64

Go back and read the OP malaise Aug 2015 #66

I read it and I read the full article from that article nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #69

you have completely discredited yourself. cali Aug 2015 #68

I'm sorry, but this is antisemitic. Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #70

How awful of you to claim I am upset about your boycotting over Gaza. Do you think you can speak Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #26

I read that story in The Gleaner which said it was hugely discussed. Denial, it's what you do. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #35

I did say he was not a coke user malaise Aug 2015 #37

You dismissed his murder lyrics as 'anti gay' and claimed to know his personal habits. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #39

How does "Buju has issues re anti-gay lyrics..." become malaise Aug 2015 #40

'anti gay' is a soft description of music about violent attack and murder. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #42

you condemn anti-gay lyrics but defend those who spew cali Aug 2015 #53

I defend those who fight for the rights of the Palestinian people malaise Aug 2015 #56

How is making an American Jew swear an oath a fight for Palestenian rights? REP Aug 2015 #58

alas, you are not doing.that.in this.thread cali Aug 2015 #59

that's like saying discriminating against american muslims is fighting agsinst ISIS JI7 Aug 2015 #81

exactly cali Aug 2015 #86

I am sorry, but as an American Jew I have nada to do with nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #29

I, too, am stumped as to how I remain such a poor, struggling member of the global media conspiracy villager Aug 2015 #32

Hey, at least I can honestly say I am part of the media nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #34

And I'm a journalist and author! villager Aug 2015 #45

We shall share in our not getting to share in the riches nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #46

Exactly! villager Aug 2015 #48

Israel's war crimes have exactly FUCK ALL to do Codeine Aug 2015 #89

So ALL Jewish people leftynyc Aug 2015 #135

Wow. That is unbelievable. /nt Marr Aug 2015 #3

Yes, BDS is just like OWS and BLM. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #4

this is.just blatant. cali Aug 2015 #7

So what do you say about having 'Murder Music' at this festival, which promotes violence against Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #14

i think BDS is mostly antisemitic JI7 Aug 2015 #78

In part - but it also appeals to college kids who Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #84

Well I was going BRAVO the other day when a US Senator was chased off a reservation nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #88

Yeah -- I just find it amusing when people standing on Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #90

Not that I knew it when parents bought home nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #92

I am not sure if it is mostly nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #85

Bullshit. nt U4ikLefty Aug 2015 #116

We do this all the time here ecstatic Aug 2015 #98

OT, a Spanish Reggae festival in Spain sounds awesome! Yavin4 Aug 2015 #9

The Spanish gave Fascism a Home Octafish Aug 2015 #12

So, according to the promoters, it is wrong to be Jewish but killing Gays is Cool. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #22

it's more about buckling to the pressure from bds cali Aug 2015 #25

The singer was not Israeli, only Jewish. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #33

Maybe it's one of those #Xlivesmatter things that only focuses on one group. The Straight Story Aug 2015 #79

not even close cali Aug 2015 #87

Or the promoters are antisemitism who don't like gays. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #97

I can understand that, but it is about 'value judgments' The Straight Story Aug 2015 #99

Matisyahu is a Jewish American not Israeli Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #100

Good, that is a start. Here is what I mean (based on what you said) The Straight Story Aug 2015 #101

This thread is not about white privilege, so that is off topic. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #102

What this thread is about is principles: The Straight Story Aug 2015 #104

I support BLM'S protests. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #109

Every time someone makes a big point of the fact that he Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #119

I support the right to protest, even if I don't agree with the protest. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #144

Some historical context on cultural boycotts. Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #156

Artists trying to silence artists is even more Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #157

This person is an apolitical singer who readily admits he doesn't follow politics. stevenleser Aug 2015 #105

Interesting The Straight Story Aug 2015 #107

Nope, doesn't work, unless Bernie and his supporters are tennis fans and not running for stevenleser Aug 2015 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Aug 2015 #108

Well killing gays is ok, and antisemitism is ok nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #31

Also according to some DU posters. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #38

Yup. I have been saying for a while nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #47

I just need to drop you this post. Sissyk Aug 2015 #52

Thanks. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #91

You have been a stone Aerows Aug 2015 #114

It's messed up Aerows Aug 2015 #112

The organizers need to be boycotted seveneyes Aug 2015 #44

Apparently, this is okay... Sissyk Aug 2015 #50

Oh man, Matisyahu is so cool tooo ghostsinthemachine Aug 2015 #57

that's fucked up .too many bigots hide behind concern for palestinians JI7 Aug 2015 #71

Sad to see that bigoted Aerows Aug 2015 #111

Thank you cali for posting this. Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #115

thanks A. I wouldn't say I'm beginning to regret it cali Aug 2015 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #120

Bring in the Nuns! Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #123

No, it didn't go that route, it went the more predictable one.... Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #125

I know, but what can one expect. Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #127

It is not because he is Jewish oberliner Aug 2015 #130

It's because he is Jewish. He performs lots of places. He is apolitical stevenleser Aug 2015 #131

It's not oberliner Aug 2015 #133

Beloved followers: In our bright new society Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #137

And yet this festival is happy to present 'artists' who advocate the murder of gay people. How Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #138

I just wrote that I oppose his being booted from the festival oberliner Aug 2015 #139

You see my actual assertion is that the promoters are just wildly bigoted people who don't mind Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #151

the point is that it's McCarthy tactics to demand a non-Israeli Jew cali Aug 2015 #143

Agreed oberliner Aug 2015 #145

that would be like saying Obama's birth place is in question because of where his father was born JI7 Aug 2015 #159

Thank you for posting this story, Cali leftynyc Aug 2015 #140

The festival has re-invited Matisyahu leftynyc Aug 2015 #146

good Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #154

A link with more meat on it about the re-invite leftynyc Aug 2015 #147

How did they know he was Jewish? randome Aug 2015 #149

Do you know Matisyahu? oberliner Aug 2015 #150

He's pretty stealthy about it. Codeine Aug 2015 #153

Matisyahu to Perform at Spanish Festival After All oberliner Aug 2015 #160