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Bluenorthwest

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138. And yet this festival is happy to present 'artists' who advocate the murder of gay people. How

Wed Aug 19, 2015, 07:58 AM

Aug 2015

do you manage to present that as the action of some highly principled guardian of minority rights? Their position is 'No Jews but gay haters are our friends'. How is that ok with you? Why does their embrace of murder music dedicated to hating one minority group not enter into your stretch to defend what they have done, which is ban a Jew and invite anti gay hate mongers?

Capleton, the horrific bigot this festival is promoting as some sort of genius, openly calls for the murder of LGBT people in lyrics like this:
"Shoulda know seh Capleton bun battyman [burn gays]/ Dem same fire apply to di lesbian/ All boogaman [gays] and sodomites fi get killed."
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2015/jamaicas-anti-gay-murder-music-carries-violent-message

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Spanish Reggae festival boots Jewish performer [View all] cali Aug 2015 OP

Disgusting ellisonz Aug 2015 #1

^^^^ ellisonz Aug 2015 #106

Yeah, should also come with a blood pressure warning. Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #117

I haven't heard of him or his music before. Quackers Aug 2015 #128

I condemn all the lyrics about murdering gay people or any other people malaise Aug 2015 #2

One American Jewish Reggae singer has nothing to do with Gaza REP Aug 2015 #5

wow. this is McCarthy style bullshit cali Aug 2015 #6

What cali said. Because it's perfectly appropriate. WillowTree Aug 2015 #8

crazy to see defense of antisemitism here but cali Aug 2015 #11

That user's anti-semitism has been obvious for a while HERVEPA Aug 2015 #28

sadly, it's clear as can be here. cali Aug 2015 #65

Well, thank you for always being willing to take a stand for what's right. WillowTree Aug 2015 #80

thanks.for those very kind words cali Aug 2015 #83

Thanks for being here Cali. madaboutharry Aug 2015 #93

thank you so much, mad cali Aug 2015 #94

Ask those who practiced apartheid in South Africa and those who remained silent malaise Aug 2015 #17

time to boycott the US 6chars Aug 2015 #20

He's American n/t Cal Carpenter Aug 2015 #21

you seem unable to distinguish between an israeli cali Aug 2015 #23

I remember when the Israeli government expected Serena Williams malaise Aug 2015 #27

But he is American, not Israeli, you are saying to boycott all Jews. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #36

that would be consistent with bds 6chars Aug 2015 #96

One.More.Time! Sissyk Aug 2015 #49

Born in Pennsylvania, raised in Westchester NY. His name is actually Matthew Paul Miller. MADem Aug 2015 #54

Thanks. I knew some of that. Sissyk Aug 2015 #55

Oh it's good when the haters team up. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #73

So American jews are Israeli citizens now? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #51

I don't know his status malaise Aug 2015 #61

And this is an antisemitic trope with a LLLLOOOONGGGG tail nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #62

There are many, many more American Christians who do REP Aug 2015 #63

ugh. from.disgusting to more disgusting. cali Aug 2015 #67

isn't that what right wingers say about muslims and terrorism ? JI7 Aug 2015 #72

I suppose you would have supported the internment of Japanese Americans Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #74

Huh???? n/t malaise Aug 2015 #76

What? Are you claiming Japan didn't commit atrocities? Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #82

I don't think you understand how antisemitic you are being but the level is very high. stevenleser Aug 2015 #103

May I also add that Jews who are Israeli citizens Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #118

That begins to muddy the waters a bit. stevenleser Aug 2015 #132

Agreed - we can all take a sliver if we push a point to its extreme - Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #134

LOL I am loving this! Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #77

And there are lots more Christian Americans who support israel cali Aug 2015 #95

Stop. Just stop. Foolish. 840high Aug 2015 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #121

Defending these McCarthyite leftynyc Aug 2015 #136

Seems like being anti-Semitic is a-ok on this website. Oneironaut Aug 2015 #141

Considering about fifty people called her out Codeine Aug 2015 #142

On the other hand Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #148

I missed that. Codeine Aug 2015 #152

I alerted on it last night, and got this message back: Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #155

if anyone has detailed info on this please post JI7 Aug 2015 #158

Seriously. It's ridiculous! smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #75

this is his.beautiful response cali Aug 2015 #10

That is lovely. REP Aug 2015 #16

^^^^ ellisonz Aug 2015 #18

And it is beautiful n/t malaise Aug 2015 #24

That gets at the heart of a weird BDS thing: Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #43

I have seen you defend Buju Banton right here on this board. One of the murder singers. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #13

That story was not all over the press here malaise Aug 2015 #15

sorry defending.what these organizers did to matisyahu cali Aug 2015 #19

Silence re the atrocities in Gaza is some very ugly malaise Aug 2015 #30

yes but I haven't been silent about.that and cali Aug 2015 #41

Neither - but I do condemn that war criminal malaise Aug 2015 #60

And how exactly does this tie in to an AMERICAN PERFORMER nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #64

Go back and read the OP malaise Aug 2015 #66

I read it and I read the full article from that article nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #69

you have completely discredited yourself. cali Aug 2015 #68

I'm sorry, but this is antisemitic. Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #70

How awful of you to claim I am upset about your boycotting over Gaza. Do you think you can speak Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #26

I read that story in The Gleaner which said it was hugely discussed. Denial, it's what you do. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #35

I did say he was not a coke user malaise Aug 2015 #37

You dismissed his murder lyrics as 'anti gay' and claimed to know his personal habits. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #39

How does "Buju has issues re anti-gay lyrics..." become malaise Aug 2015 #40

'anti gay' is a soft description of music about violent attack and murder. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #42

you condemn anti-gay lyrics but defend those who spew cali Aug 2015 #53

I defend those who fight for the rights of the Palestinian people malaise Aug 2015 #56

How is making an American Jew swear an oath a fight for Palestenian rights? REP Aug 2015 #58

alas, you are not doing.that.in this.thread cali Aug 2015 #59

that's like saying discriminating against american muslims is fighting agsinst ISIS JI7 Aug 2015 #81

exactly cali Aug 2015 #86

I am sorry, but as an American Jew I have nada to do with nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #29

I, too, am stumped as to how I remain such a poor, struggling member of the global media conspiracy villager Aug 2015 #32

Hey, at least I can honestly say I am part of the media nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #34

And I'm a journalist and author! villager Aug 2015 #45

We shall share in our not getting to share in the riches nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #46

Exactly! villager Aug 2015 #48

Israel's war crimes have exactly FUCK ALL to do Codeine Aug 2015 #89

So ALL Jewish people leftynyc Aug 2015 #135

Wow. That is unbelievable. /nt Marr Aug 2015 #3

Yes, BDS is just like OWS and BLM. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #4

this is.just blatant. cali Aug 2015 #7

So what do you say about having 'Murder Music' at this festival, which promotes violence against Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #14

i think BDS is mostly antisemitic JI7 Aug 2015 #78

In part - but it also appeals to college kids who Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #84

Well I was going BRAVO the other day when a US Senator was chased off a reservation nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #88

Yeah -- I just find it amusing when people standing on Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #90

Not that I knew it when parents bought home nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #92

I am not sure if it is mostly nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #85

Bullshit. nt U4ikLefty Aug 2015 #116

We do this all the time here ecstatic Aug 2015 #98

OT, a Spanish Reggae festival in Spain sounds awesome! Yavin4 Aug 2015 #9

The Spanish gave Fascism a Home Octafish Aug 2015 #12

So, according to the promoters, it is wrong to be Jewish but killing Gays is Cool. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #22

it's more about buckling to the pressure from bds cali Aug 2015 #25

The singer was not Israeli, only Jewish. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #33

Maybe it's one of those #Xlivesmatter things that only focuses on one group. The Straight Story Aug 2015 #79

not even close cali Aug 2015 #87

Or the promoters are antisemitism who don't like gays. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #97

I can understand that, but it is about 'value judgments' The Straight Story Aug 2015 #99

Matisyahu is a Jewish American not Israeli Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #100

Good, that is a start. Here is what I mean (based on what you said) The Straight Story Aug 2015 #101

This thread is not about white privilege, so that is off topic. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #102

What this thread is about is principles: The Straight Story Aug 2015 #104

I support BLM'S protests. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #109

Every time someone makes a big point of the fact that he Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #119

I support the right to protest, even if I don't agree with the protest. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2015 #144

Some historical context on cultural boycotts. Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #156

Artists trying to silence artists is even more Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #157

This person is an apolitical singer who readily admits he doesn't follow politics. stevenleser Aug 2015 #105

Interesting The Straight Story Aug 2015 #107

Nope, doesn't work, unless Bernie and his supporters are tennis fans and not running for stevenleser Aug 2015 #113

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Aug 2015 #108

Well killing gays is ok, and antisemitism is ok nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #31

Also according to some DU posters. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #38

Yup. I have been saying for a while nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #47

I just need to drop you this post. Sissyk Aug 2015 #52

Thanks. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #91

You have been a stone Aerows Aug 2015 #114

It's messed up Aerows Aug 2015 #112

The organizers need to be boycotted seveneyes Aug 2015 #44

Apparently, this is okay... Sissyk Aug 2015 #50

Oh man, Matisyahu is so cool tooo ghostsinthemachine Aug 2015 #57

that's fucked up .too many bigots hide behind concern for palestinians JI7 Aug 2015 #71

Sad to see that bigoted Aerows Aug 2015 #111

Thank you cali for posting this. Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #115

thanks A. I wouldn't say I'm beginning to regret it cali Aug 2015 #129

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Bring in the Nuns! Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #123

No, it didn't go that route, it went the more predictable one.... Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #125

I know, but what can one expect. Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #126

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It is not because he is Jewish oberliner Aug 2015 #130

It's because he is Jewish. He performs lots of places. He is apolitical stevenleser Aug 2015 #131

It's not oberliner Aug 2015 #133

Beloved followers: In our bright new society Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #137

And yet this festival is happy to present 'artists' who advocate the murder of gay people. How Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #138

I just wrote that I oppose his being booted from the festival oberliner Aug 2015 #139

You see my actual assertion is that the promoters are just wildly bigoted people who don't mind Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #151

the point is that it's McCarthy tactics to demand a non-Israeli Jew cali Aug 2015 #143

Agreed oberliner Aug 2015 #145

that would be like saying Obama's birth place is in question because of where his father was born JI7 Aug 2015 #159

Thank you for posting this story, Cali leftynyc Aug 2015 #140

The festival has re-invited Matisyahu leftynyc Aug 2015 #146

good Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #154

A link with more meat on it about the re-invite leftynyc Aug 2015 #147

How did they know he was Jewish? randome Aug 2015 #149

Do you know Matisyahu? oberliner Aug 2015 #150

He's pretty stealthy about it. Codeine Aug 2015 #153

Matisyahu to Perform at Spanish Festival After All oberliner Aug 2015 #160