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unc70

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46. You have it backwards.

Wed Aug 19, 2015, 10:59 AM

Aug 2015

The Constitution only defines two ways one can become a citizen now. First is to be born in the USA; otherwise is to meet the uniform rules for naturalization as enacted by Congress. All the rules regarding children of citizens are part of the Natralization Act and have been changed many times.

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TED CRUZ MUST SHOW NATURALIZATION PAPERS TO KEEP HIS U.S. SENATE SEAT [View all] BigBearJohn Aug 2015 OP

Birther 2.0 FBaggins Aug 2015 #1

Is it as annoying as Ted Cruz? BigBearJohn Aug 2015 #2

That's an interesting new standard for acceptable posts on DU FBaggins Aug 2015 #4

Ok..it was too early in the morning for that...I want a new monitor. Lochloosa Aug 2015 #8

Replies like this... spinbaby Aug 2015 #25

I can't tell you how much I love your post. drm604 Aug 2015 #53

It sure would simplify the jury process, eh? FBaggins Aug 2015 #54

We'd need some sort of scale and a way to measure levels of annoyance. drm604 Aug 2015 #61

Nice post, Ted! KamaAina Aug 2015 #83

There are legitimate questions about Cruz's citizenship. He was born in another country. 1monster Aug 2015 #5

You can be a dual US and Canadian citizen muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #14

This is partially true. It is NOT true that dual US-Canadian citizenships has always been Nay Aug 2015 #58

His parents got married in 1969, then moved to Canada. Canada required 5 years of residence muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #62

Yeah, I know all that. My main point was that dual citizenship was not always Nay Aug 2015 #64

This "why aren't you showing us the documents?" whine is very birtherish, though muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #65

No such questions are raised in this article FBaggins Aug 2015 #16

I read the OP quickly just before leaving for work and didn't have time to research. 1monster Aug 2015 #37

I think it is 3.0 - we embarrassingly went through it with mccain a few years back DrDan Aug 2015 #19

While I agree this is a sound and fury issue ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #31

Certainly! FBaggins Aug 2015 #41

No comment on the legalities here but . . . JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #51

There is a smile twitching around my lips, reading this... n/t Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #3

Ahem ejbr Aug 2015 #7

We had this toon on our fridge for years Omaha Steve Aug 2015 #9

The Far Side! I miss it so! n/t Spazito Aug 2015 #71

Dog may hope awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #80

LOL, too funny! DawgHouse Aug 2015 #84

Can it be proven that his mother became a Canadian citizen? Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #6

Mother? Scarsdale Aug 2015 #10

I hear she was Bin Laden's chief lieutenant for a while before she died in battle. randome Aug 2015 #30

Three questions sarge43 Aug 2015 #11

Trump Must Build a Wall Around Canada! n/t fredamae Aug 2015 #17

The next logical{sic} step n/t sarge43 Aug 2015 #18

Let's deport his ass! liberal N proud Aug 2015 #12

Teddy Crazy was issued a US passport in 1986 SwankyXomb Aug 2015 #13

I'll wait. WinkyDink Aug 2015 #87

you reap what you sow, Republicans ericson00 Aug 2015 #15

Did his mother become a Canadian citizen prior to his birth? Vinca Aug 2015 #20

There's no evidence she became a Canadian citizen at all. Jim Lane Aug 2015 #21

I know that. They have to prove Cruz's mother became a Canadian for this theory to hold up. Vinca Aug 2015 #22

Au contraire. Cruz must prove his mother's US citizenship, as he himself was born in a foreign WinkyDink Aug 2015 #28

Wrong. He HAD to prove that at some point in the past FBaggins Aug 2015 #40

n/m. Answered in another post. WinkyDink Aug 2015 #86

That post must have been deleted n/t FBaggins Aug 2015 #88

There are no "residency requirements" per the US Constitution. Only an amendment can add them. WinkyDink Aug 2015 #29

In this instance, there is a residency requirement - on Cruz's mother. Jim Lane Aug 2015 #49

What "law" says what you claim about "passing on citizenship"? WinkyDink Aug 2015 #85

8 U.S.C. � 1401(g) Jim Lane Aug 2015 #89

The rule sounds complex, but the rationale is pretty straightforward FBaggins Aug 2015 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author Jim Lane Aug 2015 #50

Natural born citizen means born in USA unc70 Aug 2015 #32

No. A child of US citizens born abroad COLGATE4 Aug 2015 #35

A citizen, probably. Natural born, no. unc70 Aug 2015 #43

You made a categorical statement: COLGATE4 Aug 2015 #44

You have it backwards. unc70 Aug 2015 #46

Nope FBaggins Aug 2015 #48

You are completely wrong, unc70. Stop spouting nonsense. A number of us who Nay Aug 2015 #59

Nope. Naturalization only applies to children of COLGATE4 Aug 2015 #60

Untrue MosheFeingold Aug 2015 #63

If born outside USA, must take action to claim citizenship unc70 Aug 2015 #67

If a US citizen couple have a baby while traveling abroad, that baby is a natural-born US citizen, Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #78

That is a Constitutional question that is not settled. unc70 Aug 2015 #81

Try that line on the IRS Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2015 #82

Your statement of the law is incorrect Jim Lane Aug 2015 #91

Are we in such terrible shape TNNurse Aug 2015 #23

WTH is anybody HERE defending this man's background? "Natural-born" does not WinkyDink Aug 2015 #24

"Lies about Obama do not preclude learning the truth about Ted Cruz" ecstatic Aug 2015 #34

Nobody is defending Cruz or his background FBaggins Aug 2015 #39

"Defending" is too strong a word MosheFeingold Aug 2015 #66

Well, I've always thought there was something unnatural about him. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #26

I don't suppose Cruz' father went to Canada as a draft dodger - a main reason young men Kip Humphrey Aug 2015 #27

Even if he did, president carter pardoned all who did yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #33

We drafted Cubans?! jeff47 Aug 2015 #38

all US males at age 18, whether US born or naturalized, were required to register for the draft. Kip Humphrey Aug 2015 #42

CT Nonsense. Agschmid Aug 2015 #36

Says who? Iggo Aug 2015 #45

ACTUALLY, NO HE DOESN'T. Codeine Aug 2015 #47

Fringe agrees: The Wacky Birther Cases Against 4 GOP Candidates - Cruz, Rubio, Jindal & Santorum pampango Aug 2015 #52

I think Cruz should argue and prove citizenship himself the same way President Obama Lint Head Aug 2015 #55

"Must" in the opinion of a self-professed strict constitutionalist who also thinks pnwmom Aug 2015 #56

If only it were true... Gigabear Aug 2015 #57

The picture at the link shows he lives in a perpetual state of whining: freshwest Aug 2015 #68

Not true. The Senate has sole discretion when it comes to seating a senator. totodeinhere Aug 2015 #69

If he holds a US Passport, he's a US Citizen. It's as simple as that. leveymg Aug 2015 #70

It does not matter if Ted Cruz' mother was a Canadian citizen Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #72

I've seen questions about the validity of his Mothers actual citizenship. jaysunb Aug 2015 #73

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Payback's a bitch! n/t backscatter712 Aug 2015 #74

haha TeamPooka Aug 2015 #76

There is incontrovertible evidence that his mother was a Samiamese citizen! pinboy3niner Aug 2015 #75

Kick because I just have to come back and read this all the way through Hekate Aug 2015 #77

The US does not recognize obtaining foreign citizenship as a solely expatriating act Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2015 #79