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25. Word-salad nonsense in defense of Obama...
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 03:13 PM
Aug 2015

you're problem is not with Jenkins... you're problem is with Jenkins describing Obama and Clinton as the neoliberal tools that they are. Your use of the word praxis peeked my curiosity on your posting history. That you even attempt use "bourgeois political notion" in your reply is beyond laughable. You are staunch Barack Obama supporter and you also support Clinton.

Your attempts to paint yourself knowledgeable in leftist political action and what that means is beyond laughable. Kind of like the CPUSA and Sam Webb endorsing Obama and supposed leftists stumping for Hillary Clinton. Yep, that is "praxis" alright. You can't make that shit up.

When the CPUSA endorses Barack Obama as "part of the battle plan"... anyone paying attention to leftist politics knows that the labels are utterly meaningless at this point in history. The sellouts of the working class and labor are wearing many labels and using many flags these days including "Communist", "Socialist", and talking "praxis" while doing the bidding of the ruling class and the status quo.

Here is your idea of "praxis" "struggle4progress."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4645898#4646619

"As a first step, I'd settle for some broad-based popular movements that actually tracked important legislation and regulatory efforts at the state and federal level. And a big increase in citizen attention to local government. And more public attention to what the state and federal courts do in specific cases. And an effective student movement for labor solidarity. And a nationwide network of community activists that tracked corporate influence in their own towns and states."

Yep, that's some real understanding and "praxis" you got going on there "struggle4progress." What part of the capitalist institutions and government - at all levels including local - are thoroughly corrupted by capital and beyond any "possible legislation and regulatory efforts" of "New Leftism" activism don't you understand. What a joke that is. Talk about bourgeois bullshit.

What is being said is that you first need to know what you're doing before you can do something and your posts in this thread reveal you haven't a clue what you're doing. With all the warts of the libertarian socialist critiques of Jenkins and Chomsky they stand far above the idiotic notion that stumping for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton as president somehow are representative in any way of leftist political action and "praxis." At least fucking Chomsky, Jenkins, and the libertarian socialists understand where class fits into the picture.



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Nothing "interesting" about it... Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #1
Vindictive emotion without substance does not a reply make... AOR Aug 2015 #3
For starters, don't fucking lecture me on what a "good reply" is Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #7
bwahahahahaaaa....nice job. spanone Aug 2015 #8
Lol...the article is about you ? AOR Aug 2015 #11
Excuse me, I'm awaiting a response from Catherina Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #29
she went there a long time ago. nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #30
No thanks...if I have something to post... AOR Aug 2015 #33
A shame... We could use your expertise and analysis Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #35
Nothing to "hash out"... AOR Aug 2015 #36
On a scale of 1 to 10, how surprised are you that your post was alerted on? Godhumor Aug 2015 #18
Fuckin' A, Blue_Tires. Well said. (nt) Paladin Aug 2015 #23
So are you saying join or vote for your enemies? nt kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #19
Not sure what you mean... AOR Aug 2015 #22
You're confusing facts and statistics with editorials and interpretation of statistics... LanternWaste Aug 2015 #26
Yes of course... AOR Aug 2015 #32
K&R - Nothing dated about the content Catherina Aug 2015 #2
"Black bourgeoisie"? Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #10
Oh, look! More clueless rambling from a "Libertarian Socialist" struggle4progress Aug 2015 #4
+1 n/t jaysunb Aug 2015 #5
Yep...some quibbles with the "Libertarian Socialists "... AOR Aug 2015 #13
I'm not interested in anyone's "firm understanding" of "class struggle" divorced from praxis; struggle4progress Aug 2015 #20
What "YOU" are "interested in" is irrelevant... AOR Aug 2015 #21
Jenkins set up a website "Hampton Institute" and declared himself chair struggle4progress Aug 2015 #24
Word-salad nonsense in defense of Obama... AOR Aug 2015 #25
Calling a valid position 'word 'salad' illustrates a dramatic mental laziness. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #27
Except the post is not "valid"... AOR Aug 2015 #31
Well that was a waste of five minutes of my life. Egnever Aug 2015 #6
As usual, the "Democrats are the same as Republicans!!!!" arguments are cherry picked and silly stevenleser Aug 2015 #9
The facts on the ground speak for themselves... AOR Aug 2015 #12
You made a pun and didn't even realize it. Yes with Iraq the facts on the ground stevenleser Aug 2015 #14
I don't think you will find any leftists of any stripe... AOR Aug 2015 #15
It's easy to lose faith when you are determined to do so and ignore what is happening around you. stevenleser Aug 2015 #16
Well Steven... AOR Aug 2015 #17
I've noticed this and I think this is part of the hostility to Bernie daredtowork Aug 2015 #28
This is all that is needed for solidarity... AOR Aug 2015 #34
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