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notadmblnd

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28. Keep reaching.. and for your educational pleasure here is a copy of Sanford Fla's neighborhood

Reply to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #18)

Sun May 20, 2012, 06:08 PM

May 2012

Watch brochure of which I would like to draw your attention to page 15, Item number 10.

"10. Remember always that your
responsibility is to report crime. Do
not take any risks to prevent a
crime or try to make an arrest.
The responsibility for
apprehending criminals belongs
to the police department."

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/NWProgramHandbook.pdf

Notice that this was put out by the Sanford Police Department. I would think that whoever wrote this brochure had the authority to give these instructions and expected them to be followed. I will also add that obviously GZ did not follow those instructions that night.

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Just before the call cut off, she heard Trayvon Martin say, “Get off. Get off.” [View all] Oilwellian May 2012 OP

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Why is that? Kingofalldems May 2012 #2

Just thinking about it from a legal perspective... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #5

You can't be serious. Ikonoklast May 2012 #11

I'm not impeaching anything... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #12

Memories are malleable. Igel May 2012 #59

agreeed. I dont recall her saying that before. Either the press didn't tell us, or it was not there robinlynne May 2012 #22

Saying what before? n/t vaberella May 2012 #70

get off. get off. That is a different story than what we heard weeks ago. robinlynne May 2012 #96

Oh okay. Or it was never released. vaberella May 2012 #97

I agree Life Long Dem May 2012 #90

You are correct. n/t jaysunb May 2012 #39

If it was conducted much later? Fumesucker May 2012 #3

Not a matter of fault... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #8

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Actually no one really new about her later into the game. vaberella May 2012 #71

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Interesting that the police investigation didn't cover this.. Fumesucker May 2012 #56

I read some other sources... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #58

acceptable sources include people who were there, like this tiny elvis May 2012 #66

Hmm... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #68

She's not only emotionally fragile but physically, since this affected her physically. vaberella May 2012 #73

Should have been more clear... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #75

I'd like to see Atty. Crump's brief on why Trayvon's statements to his girlfriend are not hearsay. amandabeech May 2012 #78

I find that doubtful, to bordering on false. vaberella May 2012 #72

And, the hearsay rule may prevent some or most of Trayvon's comments from being amandabeech May 2012 #77

it was widely reported from early on that he was on the phone with his girlfriend while he was being magical thyme May 2012 #7

she was interviewed within hours? hfojvt May 2012 #24

he was identified the next morning magical thyme May 2012 #38

Which matches perfectly with the 'get off' comment. I hope this young lady is able to handle being freshwest May 2012 #32

Martin was shot in the chest... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #37

I'm sure you do obamanut2012 May 2012 #19

" H2O Man May 2012 #21

Glad we agree... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #43

... Starry Messenger May 2012 #81

It should have more weight than anything Zimmerman says Quixote1818 May 2012 #26

Everyone involved has their own biases... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #30

It's a simple and clear case of Zimmerman stalking Martin. FarPoint May 2012 #36

Ummm.. maybe? Cave_Johnson May 2012 #40

Not maybe at all. Martin would be here if Zimmerman had not gotten out of his car, period. Quixote1818 May 2012 #49

I present the simplicity of this case... FarPoint May 2012 #50

Not a chance the apologists will stfu. Look the first response is one. notadmblnd May 2012 #4

I don't think the person answering the non-emergency line is necessarily petronius May 2012 #6

Currently the City of Sanford Police Department has an authorized staffing level of 140 sworn notadmblnd May 2012 #10

I think the chance that he was actually talking to the dispatcher is even greater; petronius May 2012 #13

Easy for you to prove me wrong. Call them and ask if a the speaker is a real officer notadmblnd May 2012 #16

You're the one making the claim - why haven't you already called? petronius May 2012 #17

No matter if a dispatcher or a cop answers tonight, that does not tell us who did that night. ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #18

Keep reaching.. and for your educational pleasure here is a copy of Sanford Fla's neighborhood notadmblnd May 2012 #28

Keep dodging that there is nothing to indicate Zimmerman spoke to an LEO on the phone ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #63

Would you believe me if I did tell you that I already called? Somehow, I think not. notadmblnd May 2012 #25

Your claim up above was that, because the phone was answered petronius May 2012 #29

all you have to do is call it and find out notadmblnd May 2012 #31

So you didn't actually call already? petronius May 2012 #33

Dispatchers are cheaper than officers ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #20

Excellent. FarPoint May 2012 #51

Got your link... ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #14

The Dispatcher is an Officer.. FarPoint May 2012 #41

Exactly meanit May 2012 #62

He should of, but it did not have the force of law ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #65

Your beating a dead horse. FarPoint May 2012 #69

Wishful thinking on your part ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #91

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Its a binary thing...LEO or not. ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #64

Martin's lower sleeves had Zimmerman's dna on them magical thyme May 2012 #9

This is interesting... dkf May 2012 #15

this has more relevance to the 911 calls rather than the OP grok May 2012 #27

I think she sounded completely credible. Everything she said was pretty obscure Quixote1818 May 2012 #35

I find her credible also grok May 2012 #53

She sounded credible to me too Generic Other May 2012 #80

I really doubt zimmerman has to lie grok May 2012 #86

That makes sense that they wouldn't let him testify Generic Other May 2012 #87

Thank you Oilwellian May 2012 #45

Thanks for this n/t malaise May 2012 #47

You can, hear the grass. vaberella May 2012 #67

Actually I think it may be the headphone getting disconnected grok May 2012 #92

This part was interesting as well Oilwellian May 2012 #42

Well if he has the research or documentation to support his assertions then I guess he is creating dkf May 2012 #46

I think Oilwellian May 2012 #48

I have serious issues with reich. grok May 2012 #55

AFAIK it's not age, it's vocal tract length that determines frequency. Igel May 2012 #60

Off topic, but.. absyntheminded May 2012 #34

I love Mr. Fish Oilwellian May 2012 #44

Or it means she is lying krawhitham May 2012 #52

She might just be wrong. Igel May 2012 #61

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Silly rabbit...the Zimmerman fan club wouldn't believe anything a black girl said anyway! alcibiades_mystery May 2012 #57

Tsk, tsk indeed. trolling4dollaz May 2012 #95

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Actually, when she repeats her recollection of what Trayvon actually said, amandabeech May 2012 #79

Unavailability of declarant exception. Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #82

I've examined the Wiki on the Federal Rules amandabeech May 2012 #83

This may be helpful: Fla. Stat. 90.804 Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #88

Yes, that's what we called in law school long ago, "dying declaration." amandabeech May 2012 #89

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Farewell! MrScorpio May 2012 #94