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Swede Atlanta

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1. Bingo!!!!!
Sun May 20, 2012, 06:15 PM
May 2012

I am in my mid 50s and each year we go through the annual re-organization shuffle where they layoff people and then 3 months later hire the same number or more. The people laid off include some under-performers but most are people that come to work, do a solid job, and go home.

While every layoff requires an employer to provide an age (and possibly gender) breakdown of those laid off to attempt to disprove any allegations of age discrimination, we know it happens.

Employers are under the impression that older workers are less effective, less "up to date" with the latest technology and methods, are too expensive because they are at the higher end of their pay bands, have the highest range of benefits including vacation and may just start having some health issues including taking time off from work as well as using health care.

Some of that around health care is not unwarranted. But I suggest that often the employee with years of experience makes better decisions, has deeper insight into problems and solutions, etc.

In my industry I started out when much of the "information work" was manual. Most of it is automated today but when something goes wrong, the younger workers have no idea how the whole system works or how to go about solving a problem manually.

There is value in older workers. I have nothing against younger workers and suggest we need to allow people to retire so younger workers can find employment. One issue today is the situation where people stay in jobs even when they could otherwise afford to retire, or want to retire, simply because they need their health insurance until they are eligible for Medicare.

It is a sick society that holds people in a job simply because of the need for affordable health insurance.

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Bingo!!!!! Swede Atlanta May 2012 #1
Yes. Great statement, but I do want to clarify that those waiting for Medicare eligibility are, JDPriestly May 2012 #8
Most of our folks retire around 60 exboyfil May 2012 #2
The portion of people over 60 or 65 with arthritis, a history of back injuries, etc. is very high. JDPriestly May 2012 #6
we have a good friend who was forced to retire at age 62. He was a plumber for over 38 years CTyankee May 2012 #20
I tried to hire someone around 70 last year MannyGoldstein May 2012 #3
Have those 2 been with your company for a while? JDPriestly May 2012 #7
One about 6 years. The other I don't know how long. MannyGoldstein May 2012 #10
On the other hand...I know of a 70 year old still employed in a corporate office. RagAss May 2012 #4
Actually, they can touch him if he isn't working. But assuming your story is true, JDPriestly May 2012 #5
Of course they can "touch him" if he's not doing the work. Age is no protection for SharonAnn May 2012 #13
good question Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #9
Right - and the number of retirement aged people is just getting dana_b May 2012 #11
"They" say that there aren't enuf younger workers to fill the jobs in the future.` Honeycombe8 May 2012 #12
Please give a link to your source on Social Security running out of money in ten years. JDPriestly May 2012 #14
Here you go. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #17
In 2033, the youngest baby boomer will be 69 Major Nikon May 2012 #19
Soc Sec will start ridding itself of assets in 2020 to pay benefits. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #21
As it should Major Nikon May 2012 #22
social security is not paying things it was never set up for, like disability for younger people. HiPointDem May 2012 #15
Sorry, Grasshopper. You are unwise....and incorrect. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #16
I linked a social security administration page with the history of SS disability benefits -- which, HiPointDem May 2012 #18
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