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Crunchy Frog

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80. I wanted to reply to this. Sorry it took me awhile.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 01:23 AM
Aug 2015

The "therapist" who diagnosed me (still unlicensed, and in training at the time) more than likely graduated near the top of her class, at least I would guess, based on what I've seen of her internet presence. She seems like an overachieving, eager beaver type.

I am indeed female, and have become aware of the fact that Borderline PD is currently an "in" diagnosis. I was diagnosed with PD NOS. I'm about as far from having "borderline" features as you could get. She was not my therapist, and it was really not about "opening up and trusting" her. My encounter with her lasted a grand total of 90 minutes, which included filling out paperwork and signing forms. She was the person who did my intake at a "largest (regional) provider of outpatient mental health services" and a "training center of excellence for (local area) students".

She gave me one other highly stigmatizing misdiagnosis as well, which I fought for months to get removed from my record. I only found out about this PD diagnosis after receiving the first installment of my clinical record, in what has been a four month long struggle to extract my records from this facility.

Both the PD diagnosis, and the other one, were purely gratuitous, playing no role in any 3rd party reimbursement, and no role in my actual treatment. The diagnosis utilized for reimbursement purposes was Major Depressive Disorder (which was my presenting complaint). I think she made the diagnoses just because she could. A big ego, no meaningful supervision, and an institutional culture that promotes and encourages a careless and cavalier attitude towards making DSM diagnoses among the student therapists (personal communication with clinical director).

There were not even any diagnostic assessments done. There was a mental status exam, a biopsychosocial history, and a few screening questionnaires. According to the clinic director, the students are encouraged to make DSM diagnoses based on their "impressions" and their "feelings", and are not encouraged to check their "diagnoses" against anything so pedestrian as the DSM criteria or actual diagnostic assessment instruments.

I had an opportunity today to look at my electronic records. There is literally nothing there. There is the raw data from the screenings and assessments, and the list of diagnoses, without any kind of analysis or interpretation, or anything that connects the raw data to the diagnoses. No lists of signs, symptoms, or rationales for the diagnoses either (apart from a very brief rationale for the primary one). I personally find this mindboggling, but the clinical director says that this is normal and accepted practice in the mental health field, though I have found no evidence to corroborate this claim, other than his word.

This is only the tip of the iceberg of the weird shit that I've dealt with in my 15 months as a patient or "client" at this facility.

I apologize for dumping all this on you. It's really not topical to the subject of your thread. I only formally terminated as a patient there 1 1/2 weeks ago, and am still feeling extremely raw from the experience. I'm still trying to figure out where to go from here. I really want to file some formal complaints for professional misconduct, as I feel that has been going on in spades, but don't know whether this is a good idea or not.

This is my first and last foray into utilizing Medicaid to pay for mental health services. I will be scraping up the money to pay for it out of pocket from now on.

Again, I apologize for straying so far from the subject of your thread and using it to process my recent, traumatic health care experiences.

Anyone reading this who is a mental health professional, I would be very interested in your feedback, if you wish to PM me.



People Are Strange [View all] H2O Man Aug 2015 OP
Seems to me they are actually stranger when you're a stranger too. pipoman Aug 2015 #1
Well done! H2O Man Aug 2015 #3
You are one of the good ones, H2O Man. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #2
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Love it! H2O Man Aug 2015 #60
Thanks for the reminder! nt valerief Aug 2015 #4
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I like most of your post PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #9
No. H2O Man Aug 2015 #10
well PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #13
That may be, but H2O Man Aug 2015 #15
Only the person you are calling out PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #17
Doubt it. H2O Man Aug 2015 #18
I call out people, sometimes very directly PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #19
actually it could apply to a lot of people hfojvt Aug 2015 #75
You could have been talking about me. I've been particularly annoying lately notadmblnd Aug 2015 #27
As a general rule, H2O Man Aug 2015 #28
"Self-reflection is, when done honestly, sometimes painful, but nevertheless essential." bvar22 Aug 2015 #61
Right. H2O Man Aug 2015 #62
When I was 39, I had a conversation with an ancient Black Man on Park Bench in New Orleans. bvar22 Aug 2015 #64
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I was very lucky to meet that old man on the bench that day. bvar22 Aug 2015 #67
no name, no call out. mopinko Aug 2015 #33
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yeah, the city/alderman hate those calls. mopinko Aug 2015 #69
Yawn ... (nt) sunnystarr Aug 2015 #70
While I find the tendency to label things 'personality disorders' to be offputting... Shandris Aug 2015 #11
Thanks. H2O Man Aug 2015 #12
Some background music CentralMass Aug 2015 #14
Thank you! H2O Man Aug 2015 #16
That is what I thought when I read the headline. zeemike Aug 2015 #23
Best discussion of mental illness vs. personality disorders I've ever seen tavalon Aug 2015 #20
Family systems are H2O Man Aug 2015 #30
Always thoughtful, H2O Man. Control-Z Aug 2015 #21
I remember, many years ago, H2O Man Aug 2015 #35
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So when we meet a fellow with a big chip on his shoulder... hootinholler Aug 2015 #71
I found, years ago, H2O Man Aug 2015 #72
I have to take some issue with this post. Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #73
Some topics are uncomfortable. H2O Man Aug 2015 #74
It's the sweeping generalizations, coupled with the label Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #78
Right. H2O Man Aug 2015 #79
I wanted to reply to this. Sorry it took me awhile. Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #80
Thank you. H2O Man Aug 2015 #81
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