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In reply to the discussion: Worse than '97-98?! New El Niņo growing into monster [View all]Brother Buzz
(40,267 posts)18. Hopfully this El Niņo will not pack the historic punch of the Noachian storms of 1861-62
California Megaflood: Lessons from a Forgotten Catastrophe
A 43-day storm that began in December 1861 put central and southern California underwater for up to six months, and it could happen again
Geologic evidence shows that truly massive floods, caused by rainfall alone, have occurred in California every 100 to 200 years. Such floods are likely caused by atmospheric rivers: narrow bands of water vapor about a mile above the ocean that extend for thousands of kilometers.
The atmospheric river storms featured in a January 2013 article in Scientific American that I co-wrote with Michael Dettinger, The Coming Megafloods, are responsible for most of the largest historical floods in many western states. The only megaflood to strike the American West in recent history occurred during the winter of 1861-62. California bore the brunt of the damage. This disaster turned enormous regions of the state into inland seas for months, and took thousands of human lives. The costs were devastating: one quarter of Californias economy was destroyed, forcing the state into bankruptcy.
Today, the same regions that were submerged in 1861-62 are home to Californias fastest-growing cities. Although this flood is all but forgotten, important lessons from this catastrophe can be learned. Much of the insight can be gleaned from harrowing accounts in diary entries, letters and newspaper articles, as well as the book Up and Down California in 1860-1864, written by William Brewer, who surveyed the new states natural resources with state geologist Josiah Whitney.
In 1861, farmers and ranchers were praying for rain after two exceptionally dry decades. In December their prayers were answered with a vengeance, as a series of monstrous Pacific storms slammedone after anotherinto the West coast of North America, from Mexico to Canada. The storms produced the most violent flooding residents had ever seen, before or since.
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A 43-day storm that began in December 1861 put central and southern California underwater for up to six months, and it could happen again
Geologic evidence shows that truly massive floods, caused by rainfall alone, have occurred in California every 100 to 200 years. Such floods are likely caused by atmospheric rivers: narrow bands of water vapor about a mile above the ocean that extend for thousands of kilometers.
The atmospheric river storms featured in a January 2013 article in Scientific American that I co-wrote with Michael Dettinger, The Coming Megafloods, are responsible for most of the largest historical floods in many western states. The only megaflood to strike the American West in recent history occurred during the winter of 1861-62. California bore the brunt of the damage. This disaster turned enormous regions of the state into inland seas for months, and took thousands of human lives. The costs were devastating: one quarter of Californias economy was destroyed, forcing the state into bankruptcy.
Today, the same regions that were submerged in 1861-62 are home to Californias fastest-growing cities. Although this flood is all but forgotten, important lessons from this catastrophe can be learned. Much of the insight can be gleaned from harrowing accounts in diary entries, letters and newspaper articles, as well as the book Up and Down California in 1860-1864, written by William Brewer, who surveyed the new states natural resources with state geologist Josiah Whitney.
In 1861, farmers and ranchers were praying for rain after two exceptionally dry decades. In December their prayers were answered with a vengeance, as a series of monstrous Pacific storms slammedone after anotherinto the West coast of North America, from Mexico to Canada. The storms produced the most violent flooding residents had ever seen, before or since.
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http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/atmospheric-rivers-california-megaflood-lessons-from-forgotten-catastrophe/
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Yes, in the southeast I think that's true. In the northeast, it usually means dry but much colder
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#2
I was in CA during 97-98. Crazy. Now I'm in WI and I read that it likely means a much warmer winter
MillennialDem
Aug 2015
#8
Hopfully this El Niņo will not pack the historic punch of the Noachian storms of 1861-62
Brother Buzz
Aug 2015
#18
Similar here. In addition to the El Niņo, there's a warm 'Blob' in the northern pacific that's been
suffragette
Aug 2015
#28