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In reply to the discussion: Look out, Jeb!'s getting snippy. [View all]ericson00
(2,707 posts)42. that website clearly also mentions that a lot of states that "possibly" could have turned
were just that; possibly. Also of note- Carter still blames him for being a spoiler for many of the same reason Bushies accuse Perot after they get confronted with empirical data; he "weakened" me. Anderson is pushing IRV, and its easier to push if more can be construed to be "spoilers." I agree with IRV, but the data still suggests Perot had a near minimal effect.
A better source would actually use exit polls and shows the one state Perot may have changed showed an exit poll margin difference within the MoE that it could've stayed the same, but either way, Clinton wins an electoral landslide.
Ross Perot's presence on the 1992 presidential ballot did not change the outcome of the election, according to an analysis of the second choices of Perot supporters.
The analysis, based on exit polls conducted by Voter Research & Surveys (VRS) for the major news organizations, indicated that in Perot's absence, only Ohio would have have shifted from the Clinton column to the Bush column. This would still have left Clinton with a healthy 349-to-189 majority in the electoral college.
And even in Ohio, the hypothetical Bush "margin" without Perot in the race was so small that given the normal margin of error in polls, the state still might have stuck with Clinton absent the Texas billionaire.
In most states, the second choices of Perot voters only reinforced the actual outcome. For example, California, New York, Illinois and Oregon went to Clinton by large margins, and Perot voters in those states strongly preferred Clinton to Bush.
The analysis, based on exit polls conducted by Voter Research & Surveys (VRS) for the major news organizations, indicated that in Perot's absence, only Ohio would have have shifted from the Clinton column to the Bush column. This would still have left Clinton with a healthy 349-to-189 majority in the electoral college.
And even in Ohio, the hypothetical Bush "margin" without Perot in the race was so small that given the normal margin of error in polls, the state still might have stuck with Clinton absent the Texas billionaire.
In most states, the second choices of Perot voters only reinforced the actual outcome. For example, California, New York, Illinois and Oregon went to Clinton by large margins, and Perot voters in those states strongly preferred Clinton to Bush.
Perot-elected-Clinton is no different than "I am not a scientist." Same dumb redneck data and math hating non-logic.
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Did he really think his father and brother both being previous presidents wouldn't come into play?
herding cats
Aug 2015
#2
"Do you have a better term? You give me a better term and I'll use it," he snapped at a reporter...
seafan
Aug 2015
#15
Sounds like he knows there's not enough money in the world to buy him what he wants.
Octafish
Aug 2015
#11
that website clearly also mentions that a lot of states that "possibly" could have turned
ericson00
Aug 2015
#42
Thanks for reminding me: Somehow, 12 years of Ronnie Reagan and Poppy Bush escaped justice.
Octafish
Aug 2015
#53
did Obama prosecute Bush II officials? Also, "Consortium" is not a real source
ericson00
Aug 2015
#57
or Bill Pascoe, the lone sane Republican voice who believes in data, not mythology
ericson00
Aug 2015
#45
where is your empirical data backing your claim up? Otherwise, your claim is no different than
ericson00
Aug 2015
#39
Jeb! has been trumped and is flailing. He should have just apologized for the term.
yellowcanine
Aug 2015
#19