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kentuck

(110,950 posts)
Sat Aug 22, 2015, 03:50 PM Aug 2015

Do women need to prove themselves equal to man on the battlefield? [View all]

Airborne Rangers are about as tough as they come. Two women became Airborne Rangers this week. It is a great step forward for women who wish to be seen as equal to man in physical endurance and battle-readiness.

Is that good or bad? Do women really need to be validated on the battlefield? Do they really need to have their body parts blown off to be considered "equal" to man? Are they more equal if they die in battle?

Are not women superior to men in many areas already? Why should they feel the need to be validated by the US Military? Who will be left to civilize this world?? Who will be left to teach the children?

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I can't tell if this is satire or not. Brickbat Aug 2015 #1
Because if they are not SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #54
"Is that good or bad? Do women really need to be validated on the battlefield? Do they really need Brickbat Aug 2015 #2
The battlefield is what is set aside as men only treestar Aug 2015 #3
"Brute strength isn't everything any more." SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #55
Yeah, I didn't think much of this argument when it was used about the DADT repeal either. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #4
Yes, we should all have the right to be ignorant fodder... kentuck Aug 2015 #6
Well, unless the New Deal starts tomorrow, it's a huge job program. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #9
And there's a lot more opportunity for women if they TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #44
I totally agree. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #45
Women are not wanted until they are needed. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #57
If you think soldiers are ignorant fodder Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #62
I've seen the all-male culture. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #65
It's a guy thing. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #68
That's not exactly what I saw (just once admittedly) SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #70
Ok good! Because you made me scared that Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #74
Nope, not swaggery. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #76
My pet theory: one of the reasons the mideast Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #80
^THIS^ SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #84
I've had overnight to analyze why I was shocked, SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #102
Gender roles are BS IVoteDFL Aug 2015 #5
As if it is not tough enough to educate the men of the world against violence against others...? kentuck Aug 2015 #7
Now? IVoteDFL Aug 2015 #11
Combat soldiers aren't violent abusers, they're trained to do a job. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #19
A job, yep. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #72
Why yes I am, as a matter of fact. :) beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #75
My dad was 1st Marine Division Guadalcanal. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #79
AWESOME ! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #82
I've been thinking about it a lot lately. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #85
I don't either. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #86
Me too. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #88
I wonder how young people felt going off to the old wars - Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #87
In large part, yes. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #89
Too many DUers dehumanize the military not thinking of the individuals..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #94
I remember the hatred some had for the troops during the Iraq war. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #96
there are times on this forum I read things and think msanthrope Aug 2015 #100
This is why I prefer the company of my animals. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #101
Due to my eyes, I am semi-retired from law, and am more deeply involved in animal rescue msanthrope Aug 2015 #113
I have a rescued bait dog. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #114
Yeah.....bait, fighters, scrub, mules, wombs....I do all sorts of gaming animals, not just dogs. msanthrope Aug 2015 #115
I'm not worthy of that kind of unconditional love. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #117
Yes.....you are. Be good to yourself as you are to your animals, and you will start to think that msanthrope Aug 2015 #119
You've ruined your image here you know. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #121
I kept up a good front for 14 years, though.... msanthrope Aug 2015 #124
I totally coveted your name when I first saw it. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #125
OMG...I wanted yours...and your green kitten! Though if ever Skinner allows us msanthrope Aug 2015 #126
That's a good one! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #127
Me, too. I miss her boobies.... msanthrope Aug 2015 #128
I coveted those boobies too. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #129
I'm thinking about retiring SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #135
+1 DashOneBravo Aug 2015 #147
Its always hilarious to see people hide behind "just doing a job" Taitertots Aug 2015 #103
Not 100%, but too much of the time. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #136
Women have always been victims of violence. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #69
***This*** beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #77
Ask Mariya Oktyabrskaya MillennialDem Aug 2015 #8
Women already have ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #10
SORRY,but I can't agree. Daninmo Aug 2015 #12
"but I just can not believe they did the exact same test as the men." Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #14
I believe the trainers said that all trainees Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #67
"but I just can not believe they did the exact same test as the men." SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #83
I'm a big, big fan of boxing but I can't bring myself to watch two women fight aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2015 #13
My little sister is a boxing instructor. LeftyMom Aug 2015 #24
I'm not sexist - I can't help my emotional reaction to women beating their brains out aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2015 #28
If that's not how you feel about men than it's a sexist attitude. LeftyMom Aug 2015 #40
Exactly. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #60
I'm female and I abhor being punched in the face. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #59
This feminist forgives you. You're a weenie Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #71
I can't bring myself to watch men box. Ilsa Aug 2015 #27
What is a battlefield, anymore? alphafemale Aug 2015 #15
Ain't that the truth. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #73
The SEALS training will also be opened this Fall alphafemale Aug 2015 #16
Seriously? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #17
You can ask ISIS about that... ellisonz Aug 2015 #18
If a man or a woman wants to be a soldier they should be allowed to Marrah_G Aug 2015 #20
Do men need to prove themselves equal to women in peacemaking and diplomacy? pnwmom Aug 2015 #21
+1 n/t ChazII Aug 2015 #47
This kind of post is why I love you. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #95
Incredibly sexist. MicaelS Aug 2015 #22
The Israeli Army already knows how women can perform. cwydro Aug 2015 #23
Yup, that's over there. Everyone has to pull their weight and they show that they do. Nt JudyM Aug 2015 #41
Do men need to prove something by going on a battlefield? Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #25
Women can ... do what they want? DirkGently Aug 2015 #26
I can't teach my children because I have a dick? Codeine Aug 2015 #29
. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #139
A battlefield is not sarisataka Aug 2015 #30
sex bias DustyJoe Aug 2015 #64
That is so Heinleinesque that I just had to say so. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #140
someday, women may get the ultimate 'male privilege' HFRN Aug 2015 #31
What Women are you talking about? ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #34
I tried to compose a reply to this, SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #99
well yeah because that would be equality treestar Aug 2015 #104
my only question is HFRN Aug 2015 #107
yes, because she will feel equal to the men treestar Aug 2015 #108
She won't be happy, just like women aren't happy to Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #112
Exactly. Nt Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #111
Some day, you may get the ultimate female privilege---subject to male violence, i.e., rape, at any msanthrope Aug 2015 #116
+1 beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #123
Women have seen combat in all our wars even though they were Cleita Aug 2015 #32
^^^^THIS^^^^ SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #61
Once again, DU does not disappoint... kentuck Aug 2015 #33
I for one sarisataka Aug 2015 #36
I'm sorry. You should have just posted what answers you find acceptable in advance. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #38
Just what did you think the military was involved with?? kentuck Aug 2015 #48
It's like you didn't even read my other posts. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #50
If you wanted to lecture about Pacifism... MicaelS Aug 2015 #43
Or the realistic possibility of going to war? kentuck Aug 2015 #49
Whoa, wait. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #97
No, it is not the women in the military that are under the illusion... kentuck Aug 2015 #131
Sigh.... SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #134
no they are two different questions treestar Aug 2015 #105
Now that you put it that way, SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #141
Maybe that's an invalid question. katsy Aug 2015 #35
Maybe a woman feels inferior fadedrose Aug 2015 #37
Maybe women are *treated* inferior. JudyM Aug 2015 #39
the treatment is what makes them inferior fadedrose Aug 2015 #52
Welcome to the end seveneyes Aug 2015 #42
Every person should have the opportunity to achieve what they're capable of. cyberswede Aug 2015 #46
Men can do it HassleCat Aug 2015 #51
Physically, yes. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #53
I'm pretty proud of them since I live a little more that 8 miles up river from "the Point"... Historic NY Aug 2015 #56
Thank you. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #58
First rec. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #63
"Do they really need to have their body parts blown off to be considered "equal" to man?" malokvale77 Aug 2015 #66
They don't NEED to. alphafemale Aug 2015 #78
Soldiers need to prove themselves equal to each other on the battlefield GitRDun Aug 2015 #81
Will someone else please rec this?? nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #90
Yes Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #91
I think there is some confusion DashOneBravo Aug 2015 #92
You flatter me. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #137
You did what a lot won't. DashOneBravo Aug 2015 #148
If men are allowed to fight Shankapotomus Aug 2015 #93
You don't get to dictate the choices women are allowed. alphafemale Aug 2015 #98
Do women need to be compartmentalized or asked if they "should" do this or that at all? MADem Aug 2015 #106
But a Conservative medical expert said that women "get infections" Orrex Aug 2015 #109
Teach the children? Snow Leopard Aug 2015 #110
Some will want to, and it matters that the opportunity is (finally( there. bettyellen Aug 2015 #118
We may quibble a bit on the word "opportunity" , but.. kentuck Aug 2015 #120
Your mother could climb up a rope to a helicopter? alphafemale Aug 2015 #122
Thanks for making my point! kentuck Aug 2015 #130
These two women excelled where they chose to. alphafemale Aug 2015 #132
Yes. You are correct. kentuck Aug 2015 #133
Yes!!! The OP can have his emotional opinion but needs Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #142
Sigh.... SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #138
You know me and the god almighty dollar JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #143
Also, I'm sure today's veterans go into war with the same mentality...? kentuck Aug 2015 #144
I think on the battlefield Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #145
Thank you... kentuck Aug 2015 #146
What do the majority of scientists say about this? ecstatic Aug 2015 #149
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2015 #150
Bazinga! pinboy3niner Aug 2015 #151
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2015 #153
Several years ago, Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #152
Sure. As soon as men prove equal to pushing a baby out of their crotches. pnwmom Aug 2015 #154
it has zero to do with proving anything marym625 Aug 2015 #155
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