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MisterP

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5. and why not? they thought they were so clever--"let's give Russia its own Vietnam and lure it into

Sat Aug 22, 2015, 11:17 PM

Aug 2015

Afghanistan"; it's mostly Brzezinski's doing, I hasten to add, building on plans from the Ford era

but this and backing the Contras (when the Carter DoS couldn't get its "somocismo sin Somoza" absolutely let the Reaganauts in the door: there in fact was very little left for the neocons to do

this isn't so much about blame, however: Carter after all hired Stansfield Turner to clean out the CIA and kibosh the shenanigans, but the admiral could only do so much in that sector; it's about how even Presidents can't escape the logics and discourses and entrenched institutions of the Cold War

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I'd drop Afghanistan from all that--there's a few buildings missing from Manhattan from that MisterP Aug 2015 #1

OFCS! L. Coyote Aug 2015 #2

+1 eggplant Aug 2015 #4

and why not? they thought they were so clever--"let's give Russia its own Vietnam and lure it into MisterP Aug 2015 #5

Why not? Because it is utter nonsense! L. Coyote Aug 2015 #7

so he's supposed to get credit for Afghanistan ... but not get any credit for Afghanistan? MisterP Aug 2015 #8

No, you're not supposed to blame him for what happens decades later. L. Coyote Aug 2015 #11

we *poured* money into the mujads under Carter and the ISI set up MisterP Aug 2015 #15

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Incredibly interesting read Samantha Aug 2015 #3

thanks for the comment Bennet Kelley Aug 2015 #10

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