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marmar

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Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:47 PM Aug 2015

“Don’t Owe. Won’t Pay.” Everything You’ve Been Told About Debt Is Wrong [View all]


from YES! Magazine:


“Don’t Owe. Won’t Pay.” Everything You’ve Been Told About Debt Is Wrong
With the nation’s household debt burden at $11.85 trillion, even the most modest challenges to its legitimacy have revolutionary implications.


Charles Eisenstein posted Aug 20, 2015


The legitimacy of a given social order rests on the legitimacy of its debts. Even in ancient times this was so. In traditional cultures, debt in a broad sense—gifts to be reciprocated, memories of help rendered, obligations not yet fulfilled—was a glue that held society together. Everybody at one time or another owed something to someone else. Repayment of debt was inseparable from the meeting of social obligations; it resonated with the principles of fairness and gratitude.

The moral associations of making good on one’s debts are still with us today, informing the logic of austerity as well as the legal code. A good country, or a good person, is supposed to make every effort to repay debts. Accordingly, if a country like Jamaica or Greece, or a municipality like Baltimore or Detroit, has insufficient revenue to make its debt payments, it is morally compelled to privatize public assets, slash pensions and salaries, liquidate natural resources, and cut public services so it can use the savings to pay creditors. Such a prescription takes for granted the legitimacy of its debts.

Today a burgeoning debt resistance movement draws from the realization that many of these debts are not fair. Most obviously unfair are loans involving illegal or deceptive practices—the kind that were rampant in the lead-up to the 2008 financial crisis. From sneaky balloon interest hikes on mortgages, to loans deliberately made to unqualified borrowers, to incomprehensible financial products peddled to local governments that were kept ignorant about their risks, these practices resulted in billions of dollars of extra costs for citizens and public institutions alike.

A movement is arising to challenge these debts. In Europe, the International Citizen debt Audit Network (ICAN) promotes “citizen debt audits,” in which activists examine the books of municipalities and other public institutions to determine which debts were incurred through fraudulent, unjust, or illegal means. They then try to persuade the government or institution to contest or renegotiate those debts. In 2012, towns in France declared they would refuse to pay part of their debt obligations to the bailed-out bank Dexia, claiming its deceptive practices resulted in interest rate jumps to as high as 13 percent. Meanwhile, in the United States, the city of Baltimore filed a class-action lawsuit to recover losses incurred through the Libor rate-fixing scandal, losses that could amount to billions of dollars.

And Libor is just the tip of the iceberg. In a time of rampant financial lawbreaking, who knows what citizen audits might uncover? Furthermore, at a time when the law itself is so subject to manipulation by financial interests, why should resistance be limited to debts that involved lawbreaking? After all, the 2008 crash resulted from a deep systemic corruption in which “risky” derivative products turned out to be risk-free—not on their own merits, but because of government and Federal Reserve bailouts that amounted to a de facto guarantee. ....................(more)

http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/the-debt-issue/don-t-owe-won-t-pay-charles-eisenstein-debt-20150820




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Good post. Yes, debt in fact in meaningless. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #1
imagine if the power of fractured interest was used to benefit questionseverything Aug 2015 #2
This is the perfect time for states to start their own banks. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #5
Like North Dakota? KansDem Aug 2015 #7
Yes. It is. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #22
"People like to do business in dollars." A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #6
Why do I think that is? PatrickforO Aug 2015 #10
This part is incorrect; (Edited) A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #12
Yeah I know about the T-Bills we sell to finance our deficit spending, but I'm still saying PatrickforO Aug 2015 #19
Of all the above post..... A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #23
They do business in dollars because the US wants it TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #15
Well of course they (we) want it that way. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #17
''Citizen Audits'' Octafish Aug 2015 #3
Time for a debt jubilee! Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #4
Pension funds own billions of debt. Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #8
It would be wise of what pension funds still exist to divest of investment in debt. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #9
If funds couldn't lend money to people or governments muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #11
Debt is an endless shithole. Nationalize banks, reinstate glass-stiegel, unions and democratic Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #13
"workplaces can manage their own pension funds" - in what way? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #14
Mondragon was more what I was thinking of. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #18
Which may be OK for a large, diversified entity like Mondragon muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #20
We need to create more Mondragin-like businesses here and throughout the world. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #21
Good Point 1939 Aug 2015 #25
"A movement is arising to challenge these debts" dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #16
The worse fear is realized - you cannot sqeeze money out of a turnip. Equality scares the wealthy. Rex Aug 2015 #24
Very interesting read. last1standing Aug 2015 #26
So, no more credit cards, small business loans,student loans, mortgages, etc. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #27
You forgot to complete the aphorism whatthehey Aug 2015 #28
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