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PatrickforO

(15,400 posts)
1. Good post. Yes, debt in fact in meaningless.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:44 PM
Aug 2015

Unfortunately we have our economy set up so that the money we borrow to fund programs that help us is owed to banks.

All we have ever needed to do is take a page from Lincoln's book and nationalize the central banking system. Face it, a dollar is only a dollar because we agree it is. We live in a world of fiat currency that's now not even currency. Our money supply is literally created from thin air by the interest rate mechanism.

Even though it is an abstraction, the dollar is still the world's preferred currency. People like to do business in dollars. They just do. The European Union tried to overturn that with the Euro, and the Chinese with the yuan, but it didn't work. Business is still done in dollars.

So...NATIONALIZE the central bank and start the presses! Pay off the debt. Fund massive infrastructure programs that create jobs and modernize America. Cut the war and domestic spying budgets incrementally over years, and provide generous retraining programs for those displaced (like the current TAA program). Change the tax code to recapture revenue from the $32 trillion in profits that is languishing offshore in havens like the Cayman Islands. Institute Medicare for all Americans and make college free. Remove the cap from the Social Security payroll tax and expand benefits.

And you know what? We'd ALL be better off.

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Good post. Yes, debt in fact in meaningless. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #1
imagine if the power of fractured interest was used to benefit questionseverything Aug 2015 #2
This is the perfect time for states to start their own banks. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #5
Like North Dakota? KansDem Aug 2015 #7
Yes. It is. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #22
"People like to do business in dollars." A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #6
Why do I think that is? PatrickforO Aug 2015 #10
This part is incorrect; (Edited) A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #12
Yeah I know about the T-Bills we sell to finance our deficit spending, but I'm still saying PatrickforO Aug 2015 #19
Of all the above post..... A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #23
They do business in dollars because the US wants it TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #15
Well of course they (we) want it that way. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #17
''Citizen Audits'' Octafish Aug 2015 #3
Time for a debt jubilee! Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #4
Pension funds own billions of debt. Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #8
It would be wise of what pension funds still exist to divest of investment in debt. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #9
If funds couldn't lend money to people or governments muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #11
Debt is an endless shithole. Nationalize banks, reinstate glass-stiegel, unions and democratic Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #13
"workplaces can manage their own pension funds" - in what way? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #14
Mondragon was more what I was thinking of. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #18
Which may be OK for a large, diversified entity like Mondragon muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #20
We need to create more Mondragin-like businesses here and throughout the world. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #21
Good Point 1939 Aug 2015 #25
"A movement is arising to challenge these debts" dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #16
The worse fear is realized - you cannot sqeeze money out of a turnip. Equality scares the wealthy. Rex Aug 2015 #24
Very interesting read. last1standing Aug 2015 #26
So, no more credit cards, small business loans,student loans, mortgages, etc. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #27
You forgot to complete the aphorism whatthehey Aug 2015 #28
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