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muriel_volestrangler

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11. If funds couldn't lend money to people or governments
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:30 PM
Aug 2015

(or lost what they had lent once, which would make them suspect it would happen again), then they'd crash the value of their loans as they rushed to get out before the jubilee, thus cutting everyone's pensions. For the future, you'd need them to own companies to provide future returns; if the global economy hadn't been ruined by the crash in pensions, I suppose that might work. But it might not; there may be limits to what businesses can be invested in.

But how willing do you think anyone would be to lend money again? Could the world economy function without mortgages? It might be fine for those who come from a family where there's only one or 2 to inherit from the generation that dies off and has homes to pass on, but if you're from a larger family, or a family in which people are renting, someone is out of luck.

I suspect we might end up with a compromise for the situation - most houses owned by pension funds who rent them out. That way, people can take part in something that will provide them with a retirement income, while there's no borrowing involved. Would you prefer that?

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Good post. Yes, debt in fact in meaningless. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #1
imagine if the power of fractured interest was used to benefit questionseverything Aug 2015 #2
This is the perfect time for states to start their own banks. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #5
Like North Dakota? KansDem Aug 2015 #7
Yes. It is. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #22
"People like to do business in dollars." A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #6
Why do I think that is? PatrickforO Aug 2015 #10
This part is incorrect; (Edited) A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #12
Yeah I know about the T-Bills we sell to finance our deficit spending, but I'm still saying PatrickforO Aug 2015 #19
Of all the above post..... A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #23
They do business in dollars because the US wants it TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #15
Well of course they (we) want it that way. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2015 #17
''Citizen Audits'' Octafish Aug 2015 #3
Time for a debt jubilee! Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #4
Pension funds own billions of debt. Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #8
It would be wise of what pension funds still exist to divest of investment in debt. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #9
If funds couldn't lend money to people or governments muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #11
Debt is an endless shithole. Nationalize banks, reinstate glass-stiegel, unions and democratic Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #13
"workplaces can manage their own pension funds" - in what way? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #14
Mondragon was more what I was thinking of. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #18
Which may be OK for a large, diversified entity like Mondragon muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #20
We need to create more Mondragin-like businesses here and throughout the world. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #21
Good Point 1939 Aug 2015 #25
"A movement is arising to challenge these debts" dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #16
The worse fear is realized - you cannot sqeeze money out of a turnip. Equality scares the wealthy. Rex Aug 2015 #24
Very interesting read. last1standing Aug 2015 #26
So, no more credit cards, small business loans,student loans, mortgages, etc. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #27
You forgot to complete the aphorism whatthehey Aug 2015 #28
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