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HughBeaumont

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16. And that's why they make news . . . because even living wage Horatio Alger stories are pretty rare.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:35 AM
Aug 2015
"Maybe you just didn't WANT it bad enough!"

"Wanting it bad enough" is a "strategy" for achieving just about any goal promoted by a multiplicity of public figures, from self-help writers to mainstream celebrities, who all have one thing in common: they have already achieved their goals. These people like to talk up their own hard work by saying that:

1.They got where they are simply or largely because they wanted it bad enough.
2.You too can achieve your dream, so long as you want it bad enough as well.

Of course, none of these people's success can be in any way attributed to factors outside their own direct personal control such as patronage, privilege, opportunity or simple dumb luck.

There is also the flip side, of "blaming the victim." If you do not have the success you want, it is your fault because you didn't really want it badly enough. It has nothing to do with a bad economy, or the flat out odds against something happening.

[font size="3"]Seductive appeal[/font]

The idea of "wanting it bad enough" as a route to success is very attractive to large numbers of people, since anyone is able to want something, and everyone likes to believe that their own dreams are uniquely powerful and thus more likely to come true. Unfortunately, while there is an abundance of testimonials from successful people endorsing the power of "wanting it bad enough," the sample tends to be somewhat self-selecting: only people who have already tasted success have the platform to tell their success story. While Britney Spears has undoubtedly had a level of success that must have been due in part to wanting success, history does not record how many other little girls from the American South might have wanted to become famous pop singers just as badly as, or even worse than, Spears, yet somehow ended up with only multiple divorces, drug problems and bouts of pant-mislaying insanity to show for it.

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I cannot do it. [View all] HughBeaumont Aug 2015 OP
The Am dream promised by so many, is less hopeful thinking and more delusion. HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #1
THIS ^ HughBeaumont Aug 2015 #5
Success in the US for most is a delusion. Some great CEOs and like have said in today's RKP5637 Aug 2015 #2
I think many people are fooling themselves. jalan48 Aug 2015 #3
Not to mention the Boehner Congress is still controlling the purse strings and not going anywhere. HughBeaumont Aug 2015 #6
Well at least all if the House and a third of the Senate TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #13
That would depend.... daleanime Aug 2015 #15
Yep. One man or woman isn't enough. HughBeaumont Aug 2015 #19
Thatcher wasn't exactly a step forward for the UK. jeff47 Aug 2015 #11
It's a big club and we're not in it - TBF Aug 2015 #4
...and it's all bullshit. L0oniX Aug 2015 #21
Who's asking you to? If it's a Democrat, shouldn't this be in GD:P? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #7
No candidates or parties are mentioned. HughBeaumont Aug 2015 #8
If you feel that's what even Bernie Sanders is standing for, muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #9
I don't feel that. HughBeaumont Aug 2015 #12
+1 n/t area51 Aug 2015 #28
"This economic platform seems to be ubiquitous, no matter if it's a President ... muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #31
Neo-liberalism s what it's called and both sides are into it. haikugal Aug 2015 #27
Someone's done a switcheroo. Octafish Aug 2015 #10
For many guys like myself, the "American dream" didn't amount to my becoming wealthy at any brewens Aug 2015 #14
And that's why they make news . . . because even living wage Horatio Alger stories are pretty rare. HughBeaumont Aug 2015 #16
And the people who tell those stories always leave one tiny detail out jmowreader Aug 2015 #24
In some cases we don't have a choice d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #17
But, welfare reform will keep people working, keep them from substituting laziness for hard work, jtuck004 Aug 2015 #18
And I'm with you madokie Aug 2015 #25
I never wonder why people rob banks. L0oniX Aug 2015 #20
But that's any system that doesn't change how currency works. Shandris Aug 2015 #22
I'd like basic human rights not to be commoditized, made economically quantifiable or politicized. HughBeaumont Aug 2015 #32
More likely they will say: Are there no workhouses? Are there no prisons? -nt Liberal Veteran Aug 2015 #23
They want you to buy a house but never pay it off. demigoddess Aug 2015 #26
You shouldn't assume anyone's benevolence. The same sociopath's that occupy boardrooms Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #29
"They call it the American dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it!" reformist2 Aug 2015 #30
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