Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Ken Burns: Birther Movement Is 'Politer Way Of Saying The N-Word' [View all]HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)11. DURRRRRRRRRRRR.
I've always said that birthers are nothing but a bunch of paranoid white supremacist "President Ni##er" people who are never ever EVER going to reconcile a black man in THEIR office and invent some ball-up of a narrative and run with it no matter how absurdist it is. What the hell other reason IS there?
[font size="3"]The Kenyan birth certificate[/font]
Apparently, one attention whore, thought they had found the "jackpot" - Obama's Kenyan birth certificate. WorldNetNutDaily made big news about it plastering it all over the front page.[7] However, many people from reality have pointed out some major flaws in the birth certificate,[8][9] as it's quite unusual for a Kenyan birth certificate to be issued in Australia.[10] It happens that an unknown blogger was responsible for the forged document and "punked" the birthers.[11][12] Orly Taitz claims that it is up to the courts to determine whether it is real or not.[13] Some people have gone as far as to claim that the Kenyan birth certificate is real and the "torn-up" pictures are fake.[14]
[font size="3"]Obama's grandmother[/font]
Much has been made of the supposed "fact" that Obama's grandmother says he was born in Kenya. Others have claimed that she has made a "sworn deposition" saying that he was born in Kenya.
This claim is false from beginning to end. There is most certainly no "sworn deposition" but there is a slightly confusing telephone conversation in which the clearest fact is that his family - grandmother included - insist he was born in the USA. Listen to the conversation itself and decide. If this conversation is evidence of anything, it's evidence:
1.That Obama was born in the USA.
2.Of the lengths to which Obama's detractors will go to in order to distort the facts.
3.Mrs. Obama was present at the birth of her son. (Yes, the caller asks that question.)
[font size="3"]Birth announcements[/font]
Obama's birth was announced in the local press in Hawaii as can be seen here. Despite this corroboration of his Hawaiian birth, the birthers are still not convinced. While WorldNetDaily dismiss it as merely indicating that the birth had been registered in Hawaii, as the newspaper receives the announcement from the Department of Health Vital Statistics System, and they claim that it was issued with the certificate of live birth, which they have already decided is unacceptable to them.[15] People on the more nutty end of the scale claim the newspaper clipping is, in fact, a plant.[16] Apparently, Obama's parents wanted to make sure he was a "natural-born citizen" more than 47 years ago, in case he ran for President. Naturally, this argument requires a massive stretch of the imagination to even think that the idea is plausible - these people begin to make the 9/11 Truth Movement look positively sane and respectable at this point, and, of course, just like the moon landing hoax, it would probably have been easier and simpler for Obama's family to take the honest route rather than the conspiracy route. Even Chuck Norris finds this hard to believe.[17]
Apparently, one attention whore, thought they had found the "jackpot" - Obama's Kenyan birth certificate. WorldNetNutDaily made big news about it plastering it all over the front page.[7] However, many people from reality have pointed out some major flaws in the birth certificate,[8][9] as it's quite unusual for a Kenyan birth certificate to be issued in Australia.[10] It happens that an unknown blogger was responsible for the forged document and "punked" the birthers.[11][12] Orly Taitz claims that it is up to the courts to determine whether it is real or not.[13] Some people have gone as far as to claim that the Kenyan birth certificate is real and the "torn-up" pictures are fake.[14]
[font size="3"]Obama's grandmother[/font]
Much has been made of the supposed "fact" that Obama's grandmother says he was born in Kenya. Others have claimed that she has made a "sworn deposition" saying that he was born in Kenya.
This claim is false from beginning to end. There is most certainly no "sworn deposition" but there is a slightly confusing telephone conversation in which the clearest fact is that his family - grandmother included - insist he was born in the USA. Listen to the conversation itself and decide. If this conversation is evidence of anything, it's evidence:
1.That Obama was born in the USA.
2.Of the lengths to which Obama's detractors will go to in order to distort the facts.
3.Mrs. Obama was present at the birth of her son. (Yes, the caller asks that question.)
[font size="3"]Birth announcements[/font]
Obama's birth was announced in the local press in Hawaii as can be seen here. Despite this corroboration of his Hawaiian birth, the birthers are still not convinced. While WorldNetDaily dismiss it as merely indicating that the birth had been registered in Hawaii, as the newspaper receives the announcement from the Department of Health Vital Statistics System, and they claim that it was issued with the certificate of live birth, which they have already decided is unacceptable to them.[15] People on the more nutty end of the scale claim the newspaper clipping is, in fact, a plant.[16] Apparently, Obama's parents wanted to make sure he was a "natural-born citizen" more than 47 years ago, in case he ran for President. Naturally, this argument requires a massive stretch of the imagination to even think that the idea is plausible - these people begin to make the 9/11 Truth Movement look positively sane and respectable at this point, and, of course, just like the moon landing hoax, it would probably have been easier and simpler for Obama's family to take the honest route rather than the conspiracy route. Even Chuck Norris finds this hard to believe.[17]
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
31 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Easy. Because many of them say Rubio & Cruz, etc. arent eligible. Same dumb reasons too.
7962
Aug 2015
#16
I have more than a few Black friends who have believed that birtherism is just
DonViejo
Aug 2015
#12
It may be uncomfortable to some people, but a lot the smears and labels basically boil down to...
Liberal Veteran
Aug 2015
#13
But, it seems to me that States Rights is often used to reject the Feds proposed measures to outlaw
Dark n Stormy Knight
Aug 2015
#31