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In reply to the discussion: The Ideologically Pure Ruin US Politics [View all]HFRN
(1,469 posts)57. Orwell's 'Animal Farm' dealth with this kind of arguement
The mystery of where the milk went to was soon cleared up. It was mixed every day into the pigs' mash. The early apples were now ripening, and the grass of the orchard was littered with windfalls. The animals had assumed as a matter of course that these would be shared out equally; one day, however, the order went forth that all the windfalls were to be collected and brought to the harness-room for the use of the pigs. At this some of the other animals murmured, but it was no use. All the pigs were in full agreement on this point, even Snowball and Napoleon. Squealer was sent to make the necessary explanations to the others.
"Comrades!" he cried. "You do not imagine, I hope, that we pigs are doing this in a spirit of selfishness and privilege? Many of us actually dislike milk and apples. I dislike them myself. Our sole object in taking these things is to preserve our health. Milk and apples (this has been proved by Science, comrades) contain substances absolutely necessary to the well-being of a pig. We pigs are brainworkers. The whole management and organisation of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink that milk and eat those apples. Do you know what would happen if we pigs failed in our duty? Jones would come back! Yes, Jones would come back! Surely, comrades," cried Squealer almost pleadingly, skipping from side to side and whisking his tail, "surely there is no one among you who wants to see Jones come back?"
Now if there was one thing that the animals were completely certain of, it was that they did not want Jones back. When it was put to them in this light, they had no more to say. The importance of keeping the pigs in good health was all too obvious. So it was agreed without further argument that the milk and the windfall apples (and also the main crop of apples when they ripened) should be reserved for the pigs alone.
(Jones is the cruel, drunkard human farmer, that the Animals ran off the farm in their revolution)
https://www.marxists.org/subject/art/literature/children/texts/orwell/animal-farm/ch03.htm
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What I am getting out of this is that we lefties are just as bad as the Tea Party,
djean111
Aug 2015
#2
The false equivalency of they moved Right, we moved Left, and therein is the lock up.
Eleanors38
Aug 2015
#77
Compromise comes from a position of strength. Democrats aren't in that position.
Eleanors38
Aug 2015
#92
You're right, ane the America voting public is getting tired of their BS and....
CajunBlazer
Aug 2015
#76
You were asked a question which you should answer or self delete your OP. Responding to a question
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2015
#10
So you still refuse to answer MY question. So what "kind of person" does that
CharlotteVale
Aug 2015
#14
Only by compromising principles and selling-out can we make America great!
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#9
You don't have to necociate away your core beliefs to effective in Congress
CajunBlazer
Aug 2015
#56
What's hypocritical is we're the ones you won't compromise and negotiate with. You have set us
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#61
I never said that YOU won't compomise, but if the shoe fits, by all means wear it (n/t)
CajunBlazer
Aug 2015
#63
Gladly. Show us this vaunted willingness to compromise you extol. Show us how you will
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#64
Okay, let's start with you supplying a list of important issues confronting the Congress...
CajunBlazer
Aug 2015
#66
Except I'm not the one extolling compromise. You are. You're here telling us how bad we are
Nuclear Unicorn
Aug 2015
#69
Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. Thomas Paine
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2015
#13
“Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate. John F. Kennedy
CajunBlazer
Aug 2015
#16
Negotiation is all very nice, but what to do when the vote is called for?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2015
#18
Respectfully, the Democratic Party fears the Far Right, and has for some time...
Eleanors38
Aug 2015
#75
Since when do Republicans want to make "constructive" changes to the ACA? And when
CharlotteVale
Aug 2015
#32
How does one compromise on raising the min wage with someone who thinks there shouldn't be one? nt
Electric Monk
Aug 2015
#48
Noooo, they *contradict* your point. But that is sort of what you wanted, wasn't it?
sibelian
Aug 2015
#102
Democrats in Congress have moved towards the left. Bullshit on its' face. Ignore is my friend
Vincardog
Aug 2015
#27
Let's try to keep the conversation respectable - besides your statement is not true
CajunBlazer
Aug 2015
#37
Most of the Arguments made so far are identical to those made by arch conservatives
CajunBlazer
Aug 2015
#28
You have no arguments. Just insults. The only reason you came here was to
CharlotteVale
Aug 2015
#33
You do understand that every compromise moves the center a little more to the right
tularetom
Aug 2015
#35
Then perhaps you an explain why Bill Clinton's current approval rating is 67% (n/t)
CajunBlazer
Aug 2015
#53
More "both sides do it" nonsense. It's not about purity, it's about principle. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Aug 2015
#34
I can't disagree that the Republicans are responsible for most of the gridlock in Washington
CajunBlazer
Aug 2015
#45
If it isn't too much trouble, please try to explain it to someone like me who isn't very bright....
CajunBlazer
Aug 2015
#67
Totally misses the mark, It's not the so called "purity" anything. It's the Corruption & Dishonesty
2banon
Aug 2015
#94
Newsflash: Radical Centrism has been the prevailing ideology since Triangulation
leveymg
Aug 2015
#101