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Adrahil

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237. You're right. Alcohol kills WAY more people. nt

Wed Aug 26, 2015, 04:14 PM

Aug 2015

And if we count just drunking driving, the number of firearm murders and drunk driving deaths each year are comparable, according to the CDC.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Agschmid Aug 2015 OP

That is a compelling argument, I am convinced now. N/t. ryan_cats Aug 2015 #1

Good, that was easy. Agschmid Aug 2015 #3

Oh, Bravo... ryan_cats Aug 2015 #5

. libodem Aug 2015 #97

Oh my. Glassunion Aug 2015 #2

There is NO reason for non-civilians to have them either. WDIM Aug 2015 #4

I worded it a bit funny, but I agree. Agschmid Aug 2015 #8

Actually the miltary doesn't allow them to have them unless... Bonhomme Richard Aug 2015 #52

Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #68

I'm glad you don't get to decide that for me. Throd Aug 2015 #6

It's too damn bad. Agschmid Aug 2015 #9

For you. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #45

Yes. And the people who are senselessly mustered by gunmen EVERY DAMN DAY. Agschmid Aug 2015 #47

So you are really against criminals having guns? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #63

I didn't actually call for the banning of all guns in the OP. Agschmid Aug 2015 #71

The what ARE you suggesting? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #73

I'm suggesting us to have this conversation and take a stand... Agschmid Aug 2015 #85

Then start the conversation, explaining WHY you feel a certain way. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #90

Interesting how you've ignored every suggestion to start an actual conversation. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #148

Says the guy who tried to shut down the debate with an SOP alert. Agschmid Aug 2015 #243

A stand against what, exacty? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #338

I suggest read the 2nd in english, then do what it says by removing ALL guns to well randys1 Aug 2015 #326

False premise. beevul Aug 2015 #333

Funny how most simply don't seem to understand that at all. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #339

I know it. It is basic civics 101. beevul Aug 2015 #340

Teaching facts somehow became political. Even right here on DU that is true. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #342

By showing that it is what it is. beevul Aug 2015 #343

What about lancer78 Aug 2015 #79

Is alcohol used to senselessly murder others? Agschmid Aug 2015 #84

you answered your own question. lancer78 Aug 2015 #93

I did, but also IMO they are't even on the same level. Agschmid Aug 2015 #95

According to the state of california they are GummyBearz Aug 2015 #106

Premeditation comes into it for me. Agschmid Aug 2015 #114

You're right. Alcohol kills WAY more people. nt Adrahil Aug 2015 #237

Really? How many people are murdered annually by alcohol? Orrex Aug 2015 #324

In 2013.... Adrahil Aug 2015 #370

You didn't answer my question Orrex Aug 2015 #371

And when 5 people get stabbed to death... MicaelS Aug 2015 #248

Yup. A picture is worth a thousand words. beevul Aug 2015 #256

+1 840high Aug 2015 #287

How do you plan to 840high Aug 2015 #286

Bull...shit. Archae Aug 2015 #7

Reducing the overal ability of guns will absolutely reduce gun violence. Agschmid Aug 2015 #10

The existing laws need to be better enforced. Archae Aug 2015 #16

BREAKING: 27 Slain in Brutal Fireplace Poker Rampage Orrex Aug 2015 #25

Guns kill people quickly and efficiently... Agschmid Aug 2015 #29

Two kids pulled off a mass murder in OK couple of weeks ago. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #54

Yes. Agschmid Aug 2015 #64

Really? The weapon was a knife. nt Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #101

Link? Orrex Aug 2015 #116

I cannot reliably link on this pad, but Google Oklahoma Knife Slaying. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #162

Found it. Quite horrible. Orrex Aug 2015 #194

You're right. Some deaths are more equal than others. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #314

A spectacular murder will naturally draw more attention Orrex Aug 2015 #323

Hence my #314 addendum. I think it is established fact that MSM Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #325

Still, it's important to consider the numbers Orrex Aug 2015 #328

Here is the LBN link sarisataka Aug 2015 #163

No one denouncing guns on *this* thread had anything to say on *that* thread friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #290

Someone had to clean up the Narrative�. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #229

says the guy with a gun as his screenname CreekDog Aug 2015 #225

I do like Eleanor, how 'bout you? Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #311

then why is your screen name about her gun and not about her? CreekDog Aug 2015 #337

I know I am in good hands with Eleanor. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #350

Stupid argument. Nt Logical Aug 2015 #34

People keep saying that RichVRichV Aug 2015 #354

There are c. 350 million firearms already in civilian hands. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #16

Yah I don't support just a ban... Agschmid Aug 2015 #22

So yeah, let's do nothing. -none Aug 2015 #37

Nice straw man. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #58

What do you suppose we do about all the gun deaths in this country? -none Aug 2015 #197

I listed some ideas elsewhere in the thread. Here's a link: Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #219

That is a start, but only a start. -none Aug 2015 #234

Too late. Heller says the RKBA is an individual right. hack89 Aug 2015 #385

Sorry, it is not too late to correct that mistake. -none Aug 2015 #386

That will require amending the Constitution, though. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #387

No it will not take a rewriting of the 2nd Amendment. -none Aug 2015 #388

Suffice it to say I strongly disagree. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #389

And just how do you propose to do that? nt hack89 Aug 2015 #390

With the help of 80 some percent of the American citizens that are fed up with the killings. -none Aug 2015 #391

80% of Americans do not want to repeal or radically change the 2A hack89 Aug 2015 #392

is your solution taking away birthright citizenship? CreekDog Aug 2015 #227

Another strawman-Lizzie didn't post in that thread, or mention citizenship in theirs friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #291

Lizzie most certainly did post a vote to restrict or eliminate birthright citizenship CreekDog Aug 2015 #336

Yes, that poster removed their vote CreekDog Aug 2015 #345

I seem to have attracted a stalker. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #359

This message was self-deleted by its author Archae Aug 2015 #17

We saw how that worked with booze, pot, anti-gay laws... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #41

I will fight, and vote for someone who supports reform every day. Agschmid Aug 2015 #50

You are just what the doctor ordered... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #57

When people are dying almost everyday I don't take sides. Agschmid Aug 2015 #62

What about the lancer78 Aug 2015 #80

That is also a bad thing. Agschmid Aug 2015 #87

Guns aren't jumping off the couch and shooting people on their own TeddyR Aug 2015 #88

Oh, you have taken sides. But that's OK. I take them all the time. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #105

Yes my side is "murder is bad"... Agschmid Aug 2015 #111

..and also apparently "murder via guns is worse": friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #293

Yes murder is bad we should reduce it... Agschmid Aug 2015 #299

I am. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #316

Good. Agschmid Aug 2015 #317

Do so, but realize that controller/prohibitionist policies don't work. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #108

That does nothing for me. Agschmid Aug 2015 #113

Don't do safaris, but I respect the offer... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #318

You wont mitigate guns in the wrong hands through regulating the right hands. N/t beevul Aug 2015 #335

do you use lead shot? CreekDog Aug 2015 #224

There are, in fact, multiple reasons. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #11

So what are they? Agschmid Aug 2015 #12

Need? You're moving the goalposts. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #14

Okay why should they have access to handguns... Agschmid Aug 2015 #19

As I said, countless reasons. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #27

Lol, so what genius plan do you have for your silly last sentence? Nt Logical Aug 2015 #42

Hmmm...giggling and insults. Gee, this seems like a promising conversation. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #61

Just annoys me when people say shit with no idea what they really said. Nt Logical Aug 2015 #140

Self defense. the band leader Aug 2015 #55

It's not a valid reason, sure it helps but see the planned train massacre. Agschmid Aug 2015 #59

It's a perfectly valid reason. the band leader Aug 2015 #78

The prevention of murder of possibly hundreds by three unarmed guys is a red herring. Agschmid Aug 2015 #89

a weak red herring at that. self defense is a valid reason to own a handgun. period. the band leader Aug 2015 #103

Funny I've never felt the need. Agschmid Aug 2015 #127

However, millions have. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #133

Why a gun? Agschmid Aug 2015 #137

Why not a gun? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #151

Because there a hundreds of NON lethal way to defend yourself. Agschmid Aug 2015 #164

What do you propose to do about the 125 million legal gun owners that have never shot anyone cleanhippie Aug 2015 #168

I proposed a few solutions up thread... Agschmid Aug 2015 #171

I've yet to see one from you at all. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #177

Gun violence doesn't exist? Agschmid Aug 2015 #179

It doesn't from 99% of 125 million legal gun owners. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #182

67% of homicides are committed with guns. Agschmid Aug 2015 #183

Mostly by people who posess said gun illegally. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #186

I don't ignore that fact. Agschmid Aug 2015 #188

Lol. And just how would that reduce gun crime since 99% of those owners don't commit a crime? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #196

How do the people illegally obtain guns? Agschmid Aug 2015 #202

I support Universal background checks, severe penalties for crimes using guns, and better cleanhippie Aug 2015 #206

Those work for me. Agschmid Aug 2015 #208

So what are YOU doing to get this to happen? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #211

Election politicians who agree with me. Agschmid Aug 2015 #216

Good luck with that. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #226

I'd also add that gun owners should have to buy insurance. phylny Aug 2015 #289

Would it be better if they were committed with something else? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #292

If some criminal TeddyR Aug 2015 #351

Allow me truebluegreen Aug 2015 #266

Wow. Agschmid Aug 2015 #268

The statistics are out there, no matter how hard the NRA works to supress them. truebluegreen Aug 2015 #269

It's really wild that you are so concerned about everyone having gun rights CreekDog Aug 2015 #346

That is also irrelevant. Self defense is a valid reason to own a handgun. period. the band leader Aug 2015 #139

Why a handgun? Agschmid Aug 2015 #141

because self defense is a valid reason for everyday civilians to own a handgun. the band leader Aug 2015 #161

Because if a criminal attacks TeddyR Aug 2015 #352

George Zimmerman said he was being attacked... Agschmid Aug 2015 #361

Because you're afraid of other civilians with handguns? maxsolomon Aug 2015 #13

Is it okay that people get shot everyday for what... Agschmid Aug 2015 #20

Let me clarify: maxsolomon Aug 2015 #32

Thank you for that link! zappaman Aug 2015 #124

Good link. Agschmid Aug 2015 #129

No need, you already did that (nt) TupperHappy Aug 2015 #21

Actually, now that we are back to an almost permanent Guns Discussion... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #48

"violence", as broadly defined, is still on the decline in America. maxsolomon Aug 2015 #81

I have seen little evidence that gun deaths have risen. What are your numbers? Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #94

I didn't say they'd risen. maxsolomon Aug 2015 #128

Well, I'm still missing your point as to how lessening the number of guns Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #158

Because you're being deliberately obtuse. maxsolomon Aug 2015 #170

Did Pew Research come up with your data? Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #178

Are homicides via gun somehow worse than homicides via other methods? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #294

The "cause" isn't the "sheer number of guns" TeddyR Aug 2015 #96

Then explain the disproportionate level of firearm deaths between the US and, say, Switzerland maxsolomon Aug 2015 #134

All of the above hack89 Aug 2015 #246

Explanation. Straw Man Aug 2015 #331

Americans are not more criminal or violent than people in Europe or Japan maxsolomon Aug 2015 #376

Come again? Straw Man Aug 2015 #378

This isn't rocket science: maxsolomon Aug 2015 #384

No, it isn't. Straw Man Aug 2015 #393

Do the fetishists have any solutions to those problems you mention? Darb Aug 2015 #112

Kindly link us to one of these 'fetishists' and their purported "solutions" you speak of... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #295

I have one. Stop calling people "fetishists." It's a beginning. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #321

Here. GGJohn Aug 2015 #360

Agreed. linuxman Aug 2015 #15

9 out 10 gun crimes involve handguns. safeinOhio Aug 2015 #23

Thank you. Agschmid Aug 2015 #24

Indeed so...yet the focus is so often on "assault weapons." Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #33

My God, what happened to that evil-looking "assault weapon?" Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #53

Ding, ding, cliche points, coming your way. Darb Aug 2015 #104

I guess I have to wait for cliches coming my way from somewhere. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #310

You must not actually read the gun threads laundry_queen Aug 2015 #244

An extremely noisy minority still bangs on (pun intended) about their "dangers" friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #297

Oh, but I have read. Been on DU for long?.... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #309

I want a ban on guns... Agschmid Aug 2015 #312

Compromise? Straw Man Aug 2015 #332

I can want a ban on guns... Agschmid Aug 2015 #348

I appreciate your honesty TeddyR Aug 2015 #353

You can want whatever you want. Straw Man Aug 2015 #356

Longer than you. nt laundry_queen Aug 2015 #355

Beyond fixing at this point. Nt Logical Aug 2015 #26

glad I'm not an everyday civilian. ileus Aug 2015 #28

I'll give you I worded that poorly. Agschmid Aug 2015 #31

I've been a civilian every day ... JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2015 #49

So what's your plan? EL34x4 Aug 2015 #30

No way to stop shootings at this point. Nt Logical Aug 2015 #35

Here's one idea ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2015 #36

Well they are slightly less efficient devices so I guess it's an improvement. Agschmid Aug 2015 #39

An outright ban will do nothing. At least at first. Agschmid Aug 2015 #38

Heres a novel idea. Focus on those that misuse them. beevul Aug 2015 #122

I think that focus is already there... Agschmid Aug 2015 #123

Please note, the idea has 2 parts. beevul Aug 2015 #125

I'd be more interested in what "good" gun owners... Agschmid Aug 2015 #126

No you wouldn't. beevul Aug 2015 #130

You suggestion was "leave us alone"? Agschmid Aug 2015 #136

Focus on those that misuse guns. beevul Aug 2015 #142

It's really hard to identify "misusers" before it's too late sometimes. Agschmid Aug 2015 #147

Yeah, its hard to identify lots of people before they commit a crime. beevul Aug 2015 #152

You seem to be missing my point... Agschmid Aug 2015 #156

Your point would be valid, if GV offenders were generally first time offenders. beevul Aug 2015 #159

Every time someone points this out to him, he runs away. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #175

It speaks to his/her intentions IMO. beevul Aug 2015 #180

That the problem with those that hold an irrational fear of guns even in the face of facts cleanhippie Aug 2015 #184

I'm not afraid of them. Agschmid Aug 2015 #187

Then what are you afraid of? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #189

I didn't say I was afraid of anything? Agschmid Aug 2015 #190

"There is NO reason for everyday civilians to have handguns" cleanhippie Aug 2015 #192

Again my reaction isn't fear. Agschmid Aug 2015 #195

WTF is MY reaction to your baseless allegations. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #199

67% of murders are committed by guns. Agschmid Aug 2015 #201

Did something like WHAT? What exaclty can legal gun owners that don't commit crimes DO cleanhippie Aug 2015 #203

Enact reforms that reduce gun violence. Agschmid Aug 2015 #205

Reforms like WHAT? Empty rehetoric is just that; empty. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #209

Looks like the question just got answered. Agschmid Aug 2015 #210

Huh? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #213

Not even in the same ballpark. beevul Aug 2015 #218

Your attempt at 'forced teaming' is an obvious ploy friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #298

No one is saying I'm a Prohibitionist. Agschmid Aug 2015 #300

Sayeth you, in post #312 "I want a ban on guns" friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #362

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Aug 2015 #363

"So I'm open to a compromise" What that is now extant are you willing to give up? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #372

No it speaks to my upbringing. Agschmid Aug 2015 #185

Wrong 'it'. beevul Aug 2015 #193

Okay what's solve? Agschmid Aug 2015 #198

I've already given you suggestions. Somhow, I don't think you'll listen to them... beevul Aug 2015 #220

How do misusers often get guns? Agschmid Aug 2015 #301

This has been discussed before. beevul Aug 2015 #313

That's an excellent question, and I've lots of ideas. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #146

All good things, thank you. Agschmid Aug 2015 #153

They can continue to not shoot or kill anyone. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #172

I didn't know that's what I was doing? Agschmid Aug 2015 #176

Ah, the "good ones" ... Straw Man Aug 2015 #364

I'm not the one who first used the term in this thread? Agschmid Aug 2015 #365

But you're the one ... Straw Man Aug 2015 #366

People who own guns should bear responsibility for actions taken with guns. Agschmid Aug 2015 #367

Correction: Straw Man Aug 2015 #368

OP didn't say ban them. maxsolomon Aug 2015 #40

Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #60

Changing your tune? Straw Man Aug 2015 #341

Congress will never act to eliminate guns jeepers Aug 2015 #99

If 99.9 percent of gun owners act responsibly, why should they be penalized because of jonno99 Aug 2015 #43

Funny, we never hear a good response to that question. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #46

Please clarify Orrex Aug 2015 #56

Your DU position on RKBA is well established, and so I don't think any level of clarification jonno99 Aug 2015 #83

We both know that you know that you don't have an answer. Orrex Aug 2015 #100

Thanks for the confirmation...nt jonno99 Aug 2015 #107

Funny indeed. Orrex Aug 2015 #115

I'm sorry - perhaps I missed your "attempt". If you are referring to your request for jonno99 Aug 2015 #155

More back-pedaling. Orrex Aug 2015 #181

You can choose to answer the questions or not. Have a little faith though that there jonno99 Aug 2015 #200

Again worded poorly. Agschmid Aug 2015 #65

Fair enough. Have a good one! jonno99 Aug 2015 #69

Yeah, yeah GUNS! Love my guns!!! Don Lemon Aug 2015 #255

Hard to argue with such a well-supported, substanced position. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #44

agreed, before the lock bettyellen Aug 2015 #51

There will be no lock. Agschmid Aug 2015 #67

Ah, I have been away from the news a full day (dental surgery), just catching up. bettyellen Aug 2015 #76

Oh, they'll let it hang around a while... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #70

"Controllers"? Agschmid Aug 2015 #74

Or controller/prohibitionists, if you like. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #82

Can we call gun-advocates "zealots/cultists" then? Orrex Aug 2015 #121

The trick is to find non-pejorative shorthand. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #131

I agree--that was kind of my point. Orrex Aug 2015 #157

OH! that is irony when irony has lost its mettle! Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #154

Gun control used to be a conservative position. lancer78 Aug 2015 #91

I was in college when that happened... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #98

and how would you propose not only banning them, but enforcing it, and making it still_one Aug 2015 #66

That is actually a very good question. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #72

Make this a national issue, and then elect politicians who support my point of view. Agschmid Aug 2015 #77

That might get a ban enacted, but doesn't answer the enforcement issue. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #119

Agreed. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #75

I HAVE A HAND GUN Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #86

I don't, and I am going to fight everyday to reduce the amount of guns. Agschmid Aug 2015 #92

Theres your answer. TampaAnimusVortex Aug 2015 #150

And to those people who didn't want to get murdered today? Agschmid Aug 2015 #173

Don't care... TampaAnimusVortex Aug 2015 #223

Wow. Agschmid Aug 2015 #239

WTF. nt laundry_queen Aug 2015 #245

And there are people today... Adrahil Aug 2015 #238

No but you can significantly REDUCE the risk... Agschmid Aug 2015 #240

SHOUTY-CAPS DENOTE REASONABLE ARGUMENT Orrex Aug 2015 #102

They sure do... Agschmid Aug 2015 #117

"SHOUTY-CAPS"... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #232

Don't shoot yourself or anyone else with it. Darb Aug 2015 #109

As do I. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #118

Where do you live that you feel you need to have a concealed carry gun? Agschmid Aug 2015 #174

It's not so much "where" and "how." Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #230

Don't forget Politicalboi Aug 2015 #110

Kick and rec! zappaman Aug 2015 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author SlipperySlope Aug 2015 #132

Start an OP let's see what happens. Agschmid Aug 2015 #138

I completely agree. n/t Brainstormy Aug 2015 #135

I completely disagree. Bonx Aug 2015 #160

LEO are civilians. Ikonoklast Aug 2015 #143

Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #145

Well, they do come in handy once in a while out west Warpy Aug 2015 #144

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000 Matrosov Aug 2015 #149

Elitist bluestateguy Aug 2015 #165

So preventing senseless murder when guns are used to commit a crime is elitist. Agschmid Aug 2015 #167

Over 33K dead Americans every year Rose Siding Aug 2015 #166

67% of all homicides are committed with a gun. Agschmid Aug 2015 #169

I notice that you fail to mention that of those 33,000 firearm deaths, GGJohn Aug 2015 #252

Suicides should absolutely be discussed when looking at guns. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #357

Agreed!!! GGJohn Aug 2015 #358

Agreed. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2015 #191

Not in a "civilized" society Demeter Aug 2015 #204

Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #212

It begs the question sarisataka Aug 2015 #207

I worded that poorly... Agschmid Aug 2015 #214

I don't think it will help sarisataka Aug 2015 #217

I have mine for self-defense, recreation, competition, hunting, and collecting. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #215

If the Democratic Party adopts that position we will lose in a huge way. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #221

To address several pro-gun points made in this thread. ieoeja Aug 2015 #222

Excellent points. nt laundry_queen Aug 2015 #247

Except SCOTUS says they can BainsBane Aug 2015 #228

agreed. i wouldn't say they should be banned - but the gun culture needs to be eliminated samsingh Aug 2015 #231

Heller Decision pretty much ensures people will have access One_Life_To_Give Aug 2015 #233

My main concerns are the yahoos that strap guns on to walk down the street, or have more than just Hoyt Aug 2015 #235

More of that "responsible gun owner" bullshit in this thread, I see. BlueStater Aug 2015 #236

Well, you can't have my gun bluestateguy Aug 2015 #241

Yes, I fully trust the men and women of law enforcement to protect me from criminals bluestateguy Aug 2015 #242

There is every reason and the right is protected Statistical Aug 2015 #249

As long as the police and military hafta give them up 2, I'm game. roamer65 Aug 2015 #250

I don't need a a gun because I'm not afraid to die. BlueJazz Aug 2015 #251

Same. Agschmid Aug 2015 #258

Going to start reading the thread now GP6971 Aug 2015 #253

I did. Agschmid Aug 2015 #257

I have a handgun, but only GP6971 Aug 2015 #270

Ive used guns before, I lived in VT. Agschmid Aug 2015 #271

K&R CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #254

Yeah, rape victims shoud just lay back and enjoy it seveneyes Aug 2015 #259

Guns are not the ONLY form of defense. Agschmid Aug 2015 #261

Guns work really well against rapist, muggers and other worthless fucks seveneyes Aug 2015 #262

As does pepper spray. Agschmid Aug 2015 #263

Not really. Well unless you pull your gun before they stick their gun in your belly. So how Hoyt Aug 2015 #282

I am strongly pro gun control but LiberalElite Aug 2015 #260

Don't agree. I carry a handgun most every day at work Kilgore Aug 2015 #264

So carry a .410; that's what I did working on my grandfather's farm Recursion Aug 2015 #272

Not practical Kilgore Aug 2015 #303

I love my tactical machete (nt) Recursion Aug 2015 #305

Are those ones that Kilgore Aug 2015 #306

+1 DashOneBravo Aug 2015 #329

Got it! Kilgore Aug 2015 #347

Fine, leave it at home when you go to town, and keep it to a .22 or something similar. Hoyt Aug 2015 #275

I carry a Glock 10mm automatic or a Smith and Wesson .357 magnum most days the band leader Aug 2015 #280

Aren't you special, and paranoid. The 95+% who can walk down the street without a gun, aren't Hoyt Aug 2015 #281

It is not my intention to impress anyone. the band leader Aug 2015 #283

Good for you. The angry white guys buy and carry most of the gunz nowadays. Hoyt Aug 2015 #284

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #285

I'm sure your interlocutor will give your unsolicted letters patent all due considertion friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #296

The FBI might disagree with you Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #319

Murders and white guys arming up are two different things. Go to any gun show, or store, and Hoyt Aug 2015 #330

You conflate "people I don't like doing things I don't like" with "criminal" friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #373

Just truth. As a gunner, I suspect you know it's the truth, even if you don't want to admit it. Hoyt Aug 2015 #374

I own no guns, so your telepsychology is as faulty as your sociology friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #375

Since you post often in the Gungeon, I guess you just like hanging out with them. You still Hoyt Aug 2015 #377

One of the hosts of Gun Control Reform Activism posts in the Gungeon more often than I do friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #381

Aside from 'being armed while lacking melanin', what crimes did those people commit? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #383

You could do something progressive with that money... Agschmid Aug 2015 #315

Handguns are the problem. Recursion Aug 2015 #265

This. Agschmid Aug 2015 #267

Tell that to everyday citizens in the "hood" romanic Aug 2015 #273

Maybe we should work to get rid of the "hood" rather than arm it? Agschmid Aug 2015 #274

If you're not from that kind of background romanic Aug 2015 #276

You are making an assumption about me. Agschmid Aug 2015 #277

Then you should know that.. romanic Aug 2015 #279

So we should do nothing. Agschmid Aug 2015 #302

Absolutely we should. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #278

Yes and not just in the "hood". 840high Aug 2015 #288

Yup, if they like shooting for fun, buy a fucking nerf gun. nt Bonobo Aug 2015 #304

But special day civilians need them. Kablooie Aug 2015 #307

And I don't think there is very much support for civilian handgun bans aikoaiko Aug 2015 #308

Like Bernie I don't do what polls tell me to do. Agschmid Aug 2015 #320

I don't think polls tell anyone what to do. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #322

I can give you one HassleCat Aug 2015 #327

Guns are necessary to keep the slaves from running away. moondust Aug 2015 #334

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #344

Such as? Agschmid Aug 2015 #349

Because too many Republicans have guns. John Poet Aug 2015 #369

You, my state nor any law will take my property from me. GOLGO 13 Aug 2015 #379

The old "Molon Labe" so popular with so-called law-abiding gunners. Hoyt Aug 2015 #382

Our neighbor's father is always packing a gun (or guns). He wears this vest all the time even in AlinPA Aug 2015 #380

Self deleting... I got my across. Agschmid Aug 2015 #394