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64. OK, so it was her or someone he felt wronged him and not white people in general... I wouldn't

Reply to oberliner (Reply #63)

Wed Aug 26, 2015, 05:59 PM

Aug 2015

... mark this as a hate crime but if he mentioned the Charleston shooter this guy might be just as unstable.

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Can the racial dimension of the shooting be discussed in a reasonable manner? [View all] oberliner Aug 2015 OP

However an employee/supervisor? at the station said he'd been dismissed for 'emotional' reasons elleng Aug 2015 #1

Well, threads in Guns Discussion emphasized "guy-guy-guy" without Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #2

It's actually very simple - hate begets hate Glitterati Aug 2015 #3

Unstable people react badly to external events Ex Lurker Aug 2015 #4

I see it more of a mental illness issue than a racial issue. philosslayer Aug 2015 #5

Yes artislife Aug 2015 #89

Bryce wasn't wearing flags from racist countries or posting on websites that promoted Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #6

Well said. nt Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #10

Racism can manifest itself in different ways oberliner Aug 2015 #16

Big difference between someone BEING 'racist' and someone's mental health issues blm Aug 2015 #19

That is true oberliner Aug 2015 #40

I see it - but, then, I have years of experience with the signs. blm Aug 2015 #44

I defer to your expertise oberliner Aug 2015 #51

I was explaining how these two situations are different oberliner Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #21

Huh? oberliner Aug 2015 #39

I don't see how the manner in which he conveyed his animosity bears any relevance. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #47

The PATIENCE shown, time and time and time again, by the AfAm community randys1 Aug 2015 #74

And THAT truth is what makes some white people frightened. They know what THEY would do blm Aug 2015 #84

Exactly, they realize just how fucked up it actually is so denial and lying is randys1 Aug 2015 #85

Member since 2002 and lurked for a year before that. ; ) blm Aug 2015 #110

I agree. I think he was looking for excuses to explode. yardwork Aug 2015 #108

Yes, I saw some excerpts from the manifesto. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #117

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #7

Well.... Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #8

'Bryce' stated he bought a gun in response to a racially motivated shootings, which was obviously a GummyBearz Aug 2015 #18

Nice strawman Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #23

Thanks GummyBearz Aug 2015 #27

We? Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #29

As in you and I GummyBearz Aug 2015 #32

You're on your own, buddy. Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #33

So far I have GummyBearz Aug 2015 #37

Larell Williams, a young black intern at the time (per interview on CNN) TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #9

That is interesting oberliner Aug 2015 #15

Don't know, but he seemed incredibly shocked at the deaths TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #17

Or�he 'heard' them in his head the way my sister does after blm Aug 2015 #46

Possibly. And very sad if medication could have helped TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #68

This gentleman had anger mgmt issues and Blus4u Aug 2015 #115

Of course there is racial dimension FLPanhandle Aug 2015 #11

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #12

They were both crazy racist killers FLPanhandle Aug 2015 #34

If you reverse roles, white people would have BOULDERS on their shoulders, not chips randys1 Aug 2015 #76

So you believe that no "black", "negroe", "colored" or "africain-american" can be racist? n/t oneshooter Aug 2015 #132

Negro? Colored? randys1 Aug 2015 #134

"Bottom line both were mentally unstable and racists." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #48

I wouldn't be surprised FLPanhandle Aug 2015 #53

wrong, Black people cant be racists in America, they can be racists where they control randys1 Aug 2015 #77

Absolute unmitigated bullcrap Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #80

My comment was murder apologizing? AT least you are consistent, from the day I arrived here randys1 Aug 2015 #81

Bryce chose the motive for his crimes. You're trying to explain that away and Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #94

Oh yes. We see him. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #116

Tanks, knew I werent the only won randys1 Aug 2015 #129

Absolutely. Igel Aug 2015 #119

Bullshit. MicaelS Aug 2015 #120

Murdering Black people everyday for 200 years, redlining them, Jim Crowing them, and most of this randys1 Aug 2015 #130

If there's a school where white students are 5% of the student body XemaSab Aug 2015 #121

Chances are good that in both cases it's related to institutional racism Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #135

VERY OBVIOUS that it is a mental health issue. No doubt the current talk of 'race war' blm Aug 2015 #13

Good points oberliner Aug 2015 #14

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #20

There was no BLM when this man's mental health issues began. blm Aug 2015 #26

You are confusing unrest with civil rights. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #57

The poster said it extends to all sides but there is far more among the rightwing side. pnwmom Aug 2015 #59

What the fuck? Hissyspit Aug 2015 #60

You are mentioned in another thread JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #62

They got him. blm Aug 2015 #86

Very well said malaise Aug 2015 #22

They can be but they probably won't. hifiguy Aug 2015 #24

london papers say Jahovah told him to do it big_dog Aug 2015 #31

Oy. hifiguy Aug 2015 #35

That's a well struck phrase ShrimpPoboy Aug 2015 #125

Of course it can. But there will still be plenty of ignorant people with ignorant opinions kcr Aug 2015 #25

All the opinions right now are based on ignorance oberliner Aug 2015 #41

You don't have to know a single thing about it kcr Aug 2015 #45

Agreed oberliner Aug 2015 #50

Played a role kcr Aug 2015 #54

Christopher Dorner arguably had a more compelling case.. Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #28

I agree. N/t JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #58

Are you kidding? Here? n/t Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #30

Not here and not with the facts as they stand. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #36

He's an unreliable narrator of his life experiences. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #38

Not with any amount of objectivity. B2G Aug 2015 #42

Delete before the jury is empaneled. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #49

What the fuck does that mean? Gay Black people have a bunch of privilege in America? randys1 Aug 2015 #79

Given that the term "racist" has whatever definition any "side" wishes it to have sibelian Aug 2015 #43

Makes sense. pecwae Aug 2015 #61

People who do shit like this blame everyone but themselves ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2015 #52

anyone vindictive & calous enough to do this must have been impossible to work with Charlie Brown Aug 2015 #55

Did the killer exhibit any positions against white people? I haven't read that yet... tia. It sounds uponit7771 Aug 2015 #56

The issue with the reporter was due to perceived acts of racism against him oberliner Aug 2015 #63

OK, so it was her or someone he felt wronged him and not white people in general... I wouldn't uponit7771 Aug 2015 #64

They never worked together TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #75

Yes they did oberliner Aug 2015 #131

I'm still trying to figure out JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #65

Are you seriously "still trying to figure out who profited"... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #82

Based upon some of the comments in this thread . . . JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #97

Zeroing in on race... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #103

Thank you JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #104

I don't think there really is a racial dimension - I think it's pure personality disorder, Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #66

That's what I'm seeing. blm Aug 2015 #67

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #69

Bothering to understand what mentally ill people are capable of and what triggers their blm Aug 2015 #73

Based on what little I know this is what I see. TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #72

Yes, that's what I meant, thanks for phrasing it more precisely. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #99

Well, he was the one who made it about race, unfortunately TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #101

Well only black folks ever make things about race JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #105

Oh, for goodness sakes. TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #109

"Looking for a scapegoat..." Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #133

Yep. This guy had problems. hifiguy Aug 2015 #83

And THAT is what should be the REAL ISSUE here. blm Aug 2015 #87

Could not possibly agree more. hifiguy Aug 2015 #92

forget the color DustyJoe Aug 2015 #70

He can blame his lot in life on anything he wants Ruby the Liberal Aug 2015 #71

You can't say that around here according to the people who do just that. hifiguy Aug 2015 #90

Well, I did Ruby the Liberal Aug 2015 #126

Definitely. romanic Aug 2015 #78

I'm African American and there's no way in hell underthematrix Aug 2015 #88

Truth, especially about being better. AA's mettle has been tested and found to be sound: freshwest Aug 2015 #118

Amen! JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #123

Pick a hate from column A, one from column B... HassleCat Aug 2015 #91

It seems that the common thread, which is as common as muck hifiguy Aug 2015 #93

About the meds HassleCat Aug 2015 #95

For the paranoids, it's the only mindset they know hifiguy Aug 2015 #96

I know my schizophrenic sister would act invincible when she was off her blm Aug 2015 #102

Local guy the same thing HassleCat Aug 2015 #111

The same paranoia that gets fed by FOX - 'war on Christians' so RW fundies arm themselves blm Aug 2015 #98

I don't know if this guy's paranoia had those roots, hifiguy Aug 2015 #100

Not this shooter. My reference was to the buttons being pushed 24/7 and blm Aug 2015 #106

Gotcha. Agreed completely hifiguy Aug 2015 #107

What he hated the most.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2015 #113

After 81 replies I think the answer to your question is a resounding "no" tularetom Aug 2015 #112

Not if it tries to excuse his fucked up actions seveneyes Aug 2015 #114

This guy had mental health issues, that much is pretty obvious steve2470 Aug 2015 #122

Well said. blm Aug 2015 #128

A lot of excuses being made in this thread, this guy sounds just as crazy, and just as racist.... Joe the Revelator Aug 2015 #124

Horsepoo - he wasn't aiming at 'whites' to aim at whites. "just as racist"�.yeah�I'm sure blm Aug 2015 #127

Can we discuss mental illness while we're at it? DirkGently Aug 2015 #136