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ileus

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13. Exactly....everyone overlooks the obvious solution.

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Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:19 PM

Aug 2015

Don't want firearms left in vehicles, don't make laws that promote stolen guns.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Agschmid Aug 2015 OP

Currently consequences arent much. The irresponsible gun owner simply goes out and buys another one Hoyt Aug 2015 #1

I should be against the law to leave your gun unattended inside a car, or in a house with under 18. Sunlei Aug 2015 #2

If you're going for a day of goose hunting at Colusa National Wildlife Refuge XemaSab Aug 2015 #87

People should at least be held legally liable for the consequences. n/t Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #93

There is also no requirement that you even have to justhanginon Aug 2015 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Aug 2015 #4

off-topic, but who's the girl in your sig? Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #14

Guns, keeping people safe and saving lives.... mikeysnot Aug 2015 #5

Responsible gun owners Glassunion Aug 2015 #6

Stolen and illegal guns are the profit margin for gun companies. onehandle Aug 2015 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Aug 2015 #8

There's a place on DU for your CT's. GGJohn Aug 2015 #40

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #9

When I'm going to a place I can't carry, I leave the weapon at home. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #12

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Not one I particularly care for, but the one I made. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #19

So, you're OK with violating the property owner's right to insist you not carry? ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #22

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #23

Violating someone else's rights doesn't strike me as a progressive value. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #24

So ... Straw Man Aug 2015 #25

Not at all. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #26

Gee, ... Straw Man Aug 2015 #28

I don't have a game plan. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #29

You forgot one. Straw Man Aug 2015 #31

I didn't forget a thing. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #37

Private property trumps all? Straw Man Aug 2015 #39

Private property trumps your CC rights. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #43

Really? Straw Man Aug 2015 #44

No, I don't care to debate this any further with you, and the two situations are not comparable ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #56

Of course you don't. Straw Man Aug 2015 #58

No, you keep asking me to explain why entirely different fact patterns... ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #59

Tactic? Straw Man Aug 2015 #60

No, it's a tactic. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #61

Because you say it is? Straw Man Aug 2015 #63

No, because it is what it is. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #64

Wrong. Straw Man Aug 2015 #68

Wrong. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #69

I refer you to ... Straw Man Aug 2015 #72

And I asked you to *prove* what you wrote. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #75

Prove what? Straw Man Aug 2015 #78

From post #64: ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #79

Proof? Straw Man Aug 2015 #80

As Reagan famously said, "There you go again!" ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #82

You missed the fact ... Straw Man Aug 2015 #89

The legal fact patterns are NOT analogous, and the rationales are NOT the same! ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #91

Last word? Straw Man Aug 2015 #102

Not all private property is treated the same under the law, branford Aug 2015 #62

Be prepared to defend your logic, branford. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #65

Don't thank me too fast. branford Aug 2015 #67

I thank you for expanding on the legal issues involved. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #70

I would just note that many of statutes preventing discrimination against those branford Aug 2015 #73

Quite true. ColesCountyDem Aug 2015 #74

Without gun free zones folks won't have to leave PSDs in their vehicles. ileus Aug 2015 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Aug 2015 #11

Exactly....everyone overlooks the obvious solution. ileus Aug 2015 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Aug 2015 #17

That's an insane position to take. Wow Action_Patrol Aug 2015 #21

I know a few business owners who don't want guns in their stores... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #36

It is safer not to carry at all dbackjon Aug 2015 #30

Care to support your claim? ManiacJoe Aug 2015 #90

Learn to go places without a gun or two strapped to your body. Do you normally wear Hoyt Aug 2015 #32

Just for you. GGJohn Aug 2015 #41

It's a personal choice that adversely affects society, just like your 3 or 4 gun safes Hoyt Aug 2015 #46

Theres a difference between adversely effecting society, and simply bothering you. beevul Aug 2015 #47

You are wrong, but I get you need to protect your precious gunz. Hoyt Aug 2015 #50

Explain why he's wrong? eom. GGJohn Aug 2015 #51

Compelling argument. beevul Aug 2015 #53

How does our CCW's adversely affect society? GGJohn Aug 2015 #49

I know you supported him, but Zimmerman is a good example, as is OP. Hoyt Aug 2015 #54

I supported Zimmerman? GGJohn Aug 2015 #55

That apology will never happen Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #77

Oh I know that, GGJohn Aug 2015 #81

Naw I normally just carry my personal safety device. ileus Aug 2015 #57

You actually carry a lethal weapon. If it were just a "PSD," you and the other gunners would not Hoyt Aug 2015 #71

It's not lethal if not used, and it's not a weapon if used for protection. ileus Aug 2015 #85

Yoy wouldn't strap it on if it were not lethal and "empowering." Hoyt Aug 2015 #88

I agree pintobean Aug 2015 #34

(properly placed this time) You must not have gotten the memo... beevul Aug 2015 #48

Lots of victim blaming here Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Aug 2015 #18

That was my first thought. pintobean Aug 2015 #27

Deleted, responded to wrong post. beevul Aug 2015 #45

Look. Owning a gun is a right. Glassunion Aug 2015 #66

If you choose to place your deadly weapon in a location where others can access it, Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #94

Pointing out irresponsibility doesn't preclude blaming the thief. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #96

That NRA bumper sticker tells everyone that you've a gun in your glovebox NightWatcher Aug 2015 #20

I keep a water moccasin in my center console and label the lid: "Ruger Inside." Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #35

I keep a Western Diamondback in my glove compartment GGJohn Aug 2015 #42

In keeping with the gun theme... beevul Aug 2015 #52

I'm guessing the criminals know where the gun-free zones are. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #33

Except of course when a cop uses their gun to commit a crime. Rex Aug 2015 #38

"Steal my gun" sticker HassleCat Aug 2015 #76

Every stolen gun is a second ammendment vioation... sanatanadharma Aug 2015 #83

Sigh...not this nonsense again. beevul Aug 2015 #84

Huh? The -only- way a stolen gun is a violation of the Second Amendment branford Aug 2015 #86

"Responsible" gun owners, SECURE YOUR FUCKING FIREARMS! Crunchy Frog Aug 2015 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Aug 2015 #95

I can't see blaming/punishing the theft victim for future use of stolen items by criminals. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Aug 2015 #98

I understand your position on stolen guns. Does that apply to other stolen items used in crimes? aikoaiko Aug 2015 #99

To put it gently, your interlocutor seems to have found your question to be awkward friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #103

One partial solution would be... Orrex Aug 2015 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Aug 2015 #101