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Throd

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44. You seem to assume the worst in some people.

Reply to Lurker Deluxe (Reply #31)

Fri Aug 28, 2015, 06:44 PM

Aug 2015

Yet put a lot of faith in regulation written by other people.

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Canada Bans Off-Grid Living (And It�s Happening In The U.S., Too) [View all] KamaAina Aug 2015 OP

What the hell?? I can halfway understand if they didn't have water, but electricity? arcane1 Aug 2015 #1

We have 36 solar panels on the roof emsimon33 Aug 2015 #55

In my community we are required to pay for waste management services. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #2

Same here Sherman A1 Aug 2015 #16

That sounds a bit like school taxes, yes? Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #36

Exactly! I'll happily pay for waste management fees csziggy Aug 2015 #50

There is an argument to be made here in favor of cost-sharing Maedhros Aug 2015 #49

I have a neighbor who been paying sewer bills for 25 years, he is on a septic system. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #54

same way here Go Vols Aug 2015 #59

safety Lurker Deluxe Aug 2015 #3

Most smoke detectors are battery-powered KamaAina Aug 2015 #4

they can be either. hard-wired is becoming more common. maxsolomon Aug 2015 #7

I just had to get a new box to bring my house up to code. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2015 #83

Oh, well. Times change. kcr Aug 2015 #8

then the code is the problem Lurker Deluxe Aug 2015 #9

Not in new construction Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #17

You never rented out property, have you? msanthrope Aug 2015 #79

Lithium batteries for alarms. Or solar. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #5

right Lurker Deluxe Aug 2015 #15

What's wrong with cedar shingles? uppityperson Aug 2015 #67

They're a fire hazard tammywammy Aug 2015 #75

Ah, roofs, yes. I was thinking siding as its not uncommon for that. uppityperson Aug 2015 #77

Code is written by political actors making political decisions. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #6

bs Lurker Deluxe Aug 2015 #12

The article isn't about multi-family dwellings. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #18

I responded Lurker Deluxe Aug 2015 #21

Smoke detectors have batteries so you really have not made a single point yet. Rex Aug 2015 #26

read Lurker Deluxe Aug 2015 #30

They aren't doing any of those things. You might as well be asking if they should be Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #32

so ... Lurker Deluxe Aug 2015 #34

I'm with you - if she is living in a community. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #42

So... Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #52

I doubt most people living 'off the grid' are in 'multi family housing'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #37

Are you purposely conflating 'off grid' with 'unsafe'? Trajan Aug 2015 #51

It's worse than that. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #24

I don't think that's true. AZCat Aug 2015 #57

I don't know about tied to a specific edition, but you're largely correct about copyright. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #74

Laws, when printed by a government entity, are not subject to copyright. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #80

That is what the court held in 2002. The ICC still advises building departments otherwise. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #82

Always and for their benefit almost 100% of the time. Rex Aug 2015 #28

Actually, yes, in another OP, that's exactly what is being allowed. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #35

different Lurker Deluxe Aug 2015 #38

"Should we allow substandard housing?" Bwahahahaha! What country do you think you live in?! We have WinkyDink Aug 2015 #48

What if she has a septic system? Ilsa Aug 2015 #53

Tell her to call Solar City. OffWithTheirHeads Aug 2015 #10

Canada did? or the municipality of Clark�s Harbour, Nova Scotia did? Misleading headline. nt Electric Monk Aug 2015 #11

The municipality was enforcing a federal building code KamaAina Aug 2015 #14

Very misleading Monk06 Aug 2015 #65

They resent not being able to control the plebes. Throd Aug 2015 #13

Exactly. Not to mention the utility monopolies want their cut. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #19

The nail that sticks up gets pounded down. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #22

Different kettles of fish. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #20

Five Things You Need to Live Off the Grid frazzled Aug 2015 #23

In other words, you have to conform for "the good of the community" AZ Progressive Aug 2015 #27

No one makes you buy land in that community if you don't like the rules. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #46

In a lot of areas, you don't have to be very far out of town. LiberalArkie Aug 2015 #56

Fuckin A Dude Go Vols Aug 2015 #60

Well of course! Everyone has to pay the piper one way or the other! Rex Aug 2015 #25

Not sure this is real. PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #29

sure Lurker Deluxe Aug 2015 #31

You seem to assume the worst in some people. Throd Aug 2015 #44

true Lurker Deluxe Aug 2015 #47

And sometimes those reasons PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #70

Sometimes presumptuous protectors go too far, too. n/T beevul Aug 2015 #76

My neighbor is one of the approved septic system designers in the county, lives off the uppityperson Aug 2015 #68

Did you know "off the grid" is living without electricity, nothing to do with sewage? uppityperson Aug 2015 #71

Because there is a lot more to building codes than simply electricity. uppityperson Aug 2015 #72

What is a "certificate of occupancy"? Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #33

Its not where I live Go Vols Aug 2015 #40

After all inspections are completed 1939 Aug 2015 #43

surely it is Lurker Deluxe Aug 2015 #45

"off the grid" means not dependent on public utilities, especially the supply of electricity. uppityperson Aug 2015 #69

Same story with vid Go Vols Aug 2015 #39

There used to be a time when government existed FOR the people. lpbk2713 Aug 2015 #41

It exists for the people, just not those you prefer quaker bill Aug 2015 #63

Anyone can live off the grid. hunter Aug 2015 #58

OMG! Housing standards! Municipal codes! Zoning laws! struggle4progress Aug 2015 #61

can she get solar panels instead? Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #62

"Off-Grid" whackjobs destroyed my grandparents groundwater Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2015 #64

If she doesn't have wiring, her house becomes a nuisance Nevernose Aug 2015 #66

Too much Ayn Rand in this thread. X_Digger Aug 2015 #73

Everything the culture and its government promulgates is to enforce Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #78

If someone wants to find a mountain or forest and live off the land, Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #85

Water and sewerage should be required, but not electricity, imo. TexasMommaWithAHat Aug 2015 #81

And, yet, if you don't pay your electric bill on time daleo Aug 2015 #84

Disconnection, the best way to get off grid? Snowyguy Sep 2015 #86

They want everything their way daleo Sep 2015 #87