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MADem

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47. Sanders' "problem" with BLM is no better or worse than any other candidate.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 04:12 PM
Sep 2015

BLM is not Sanders' "black problem." BLM is the LEAST of his worries.

That's just the element his supporters keep pointing to--angrily--as though a couple of girls in Seattle somehow 'ruined it' for him with the black people.

Bravenak tried to tell people here what his problem was, back when she was a Sanders supporter. The "crew" here would not tolerate any criticism, and they alerted on her until they got rid of her, and they lost her voice and her support, too. Talk about stupid.

Sanders, with all his working man economic policy cure-all/refusal to acknowledge institutional racism is the problem--all by himself. He doesn't resonate with people who KNOW better than he does about the reality of living in non-white skin every moment of their lives. He just doesn't get it, and he doesn't really know how to back up and tack in a new direction. He's stubborn, maybe--doesn't want to admit he's wrong or something. I don't know and I don't really care. The "supporters" of Bernie here are so sure of themselves that there's no point trying to have an intelligent conversation with them about why POC will never migrate to the guy--he just doesn't have it. And without that "it," he's not getting them out to wait in line for four to six hours just to vote.

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Elephant in the room [View all] rtracey Aug 2015 OP
It's not a bug, it's a feature n2doc Aug 2015 #1
He is a cartoon character and many Americans love him for it mucifer Aug 2015 #2
Because a lot of voters don't understand how government works, either. MADem Aug 2015 #3
+1 nt brer cat Aug 2015 #4
+1000 greenman3610 Aug 2015 #7
Lather. Rinse. Repeat. blm Aug 2015 #8
One hand washes the other, most certainly. nt MADem Aug 2015 #21
"a lot of voters" now support a wise & seasoned progressive candidate who's been IN Congress for 25 years 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #14
"So you may as well stop riding that worn out hobby-horse." MADem Aug 2015 #20
Oh snap! 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #22
Snap indeed--your winning ways will convince anyone of the righteousness of your cause. MADem Aug 2015 #23
Now you are repeating yourself, a bit over-much. 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #24
Mmmmhmmmm--do go on! I'm not the one getting personal--if the shoe doesn't fit MADem Sep 2015 #36
There's always room for growing & learning 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #42
He's more into "coalition politics" and that's a trickier proposition. MADem Sep 2015 #43
The well-known fact that Bernie is drawing heavily from voters who don't usually vote Democratic 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #44
He's drawing them to listen to him--but not necessarily vote for him. MADem Sep 2015 #45
Team Bernie's still got work to do, with Blacks & Latinos, no doubt about that. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #46
Sanders' "problem" with BLM is no better or worse than any other candidate. MADem Sep 2015 #47
Like I said, we will see. Thanks for this exchange. I'd like to end it here. -nt- 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #48
I've never seen anyone that thinks Bernie can just wave his hand (you were referring to him,right?) Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #15
Maybe you need to read this board more carefully--Obama has spent the last two terms getting MADem Aug 2015 #19
I see just fine. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #26
the "magic wand" meme never ends Skittles Aug 2015 #29
You've missed plenty, but it would appear that you haven't been here for most of Obama's two terms. MADem Aug 2015 #32
yeah, we know Skittles Aug 2015 #27
I don't think that's accurate either. nt MADem Aug 2015 #33
When we should accept that we can't change things.... daleanime Aug 2015 #28
Until Citizens United gets overturned--and that will have to happen in court, not via Congress MADem Aug 2015 #30
Who's snarking? daleanime Sep 2015 #35
Who would that be, who doesn't "take advantage of the benefits?" MADem Sep 2015 #37
It's always nice.... daleanime Sep 2015 #38
I've no idea what you're on about, and that's really kind of sad, I suppose. Or maybe not. MADem Sep 2015 #40
What part of... daleanime Sep 2015 #41
You're wrapping all that up with how painful and sad you are. This is a discussion board. MADem Sep 2015 #49
The media is largely ignorant of it, too. blm Aug 2015 #5
He understands enough to know that if you give politicians enough money... Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #6
He's probably right about D.C. 840high Aug 2015 #34
Big fucking doofus in the room. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #9
I don't think that's an issue packman Aug 2015 #10
I've mentioned it once or twice here SheilaT Aug 2015 #11
Two Words..... RR2 Aug 2015 #12
That isn't unique to Trump. jeff47 Aug 2015 #13
It's simple left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #16
The key point is they don't want government to work as it is, they want to destroy it. Ford_Prefect Aug 2015 #17
He's just saying what those listening to him want to hear. I think he knows "HE" can't napi21 Aug 2015 #18
the media is not addressing ANY issues. spanone Aug 2015 #25
his base isn't made up of what you would call critical thinkers. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #31
Excellent Point WiffenPoof Sep 2015 #39
How true. . . BigDemVoter Sep 2015 #50
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